Classic American West Coast Boxing

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jose potrillo lopez wrote:Potrillo is a young stallion. Gorge Parnasos an promoter of the Olympic Auditorium in California gave him this name after his first fight there against Abe Villa. I read an interview with Jesus Pimentel where he mention my father as the strongest fighter he ever faught. To see if my father felt the same way I waited for him to get out of the shower about 2 hours ago and asked him the same question.... he replied the same. I have tons of newspaper clippings and picts of his carer but cant figure out how to post some.
Can't wait to see them.

Scan your photos to your computer and then use http://tinypic.com to get a embed code, then copy and paste to this site.

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Stage 21 - Desilu Studios, 1951 . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsiItd1iN8
Actual footage and "color" home movie behind-the-scenes
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Expug wrote:
Expug wrote:A true legend. The great Chet Atkins singing about his pop.
Tough not to get choked up from this one. It'll bring a tear to a glass eye.
Especially for those missing their Dad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEsVHGvjqEU
You guys talkin about your dads has me given this one a bump
Chet is a cool cat
Brian, I checked out the video the first time around but I was at work and didn't have a chance to comment, then I kinda forgot about it. Thanks for reposting it. Atkins and his song brought a tear to my eye. All these years and the man still misses his father. I know the feeling.

Randy :TU: :bow:
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Rick Farris wrote:Stage 21 - Desilu Studios, 1951 . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsiItd1iN8
Actual footage and "color" home movie behind-the-scenes
That was cool Rick! :TU:
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Great Stuff Rick- The studio stories as well as the Lucy Video were very cool. My cousin in-law is a big "Lucy" fan (who isn't) and I know she will love to see the color taping. I am wondering Rick, were the TV shows back then filmed in color and they had to be transmitted in B/W, or were they filmed in B/W.?
That nostalgia stuff is good for my heart, it was such a nicer,easier pace back then (or so it seemed like). Good memories sports wise too.
114 degrees- Kinda glad I'm over here for that. LOL :OhYes:

Rick, are you working on that "Transformers 3 " or "Spiderman " productions now, or something else, I think you briefly mentioned it earler in a post that one of them were coming up for you soon. I have 2 nephews here who want to get on line now for both of them. :witzend: :lol:
You guys got a good one going on over there right now
San Francisco Giants and the Padres. Going down to the wire too.
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CNorkusJr wrote:Great Stuff Rick- The studio stories as well as the Lucy Video were very cool. My cousin in-law is a big "Lucy" fan (who isn't) and I know she will love to see the color taping. I am wondering Rick, were the TV shows back then filmed in color and they had to be transmitted in B/W, or were they filmed in B/W.?
That nostalgia stuff is good for my heart, it was such a nicer,easier pace back then (or so it seemed like). Good memories sports wise too.
114 degrees- Kinda glad I'm over here for that. LOL :OhYes:

Rick, are you working on that "Transformers 3 " or "Spiderman " productions now, or something else, I think you briefly mentioned it earler in a post that one of them were coming up for you soon. I have 2 nephews here who want to get on line now for both of them. :witzend: :lol:
You guys got a good one going on over there right now
San Francisco Giants and the Padres. Going down to the wire too.
TV & Movies . . .

Charlie . . . Everything was B&W on TV back in '51. The color footage you see that cuts in with the actual B&W TV photography used in the old CBS broadcast was actually filmed with one of the earliest color home movie cameras. Somebody off stage took his home movie camera and filmed it from the audience. You'll see a silhouette of the actual TV cameras and even a few of the lights when the person filming it pans upward too high. In those days you would have some movies filmed in color, but they did not have TV's that could broadcast in color, so they were all filmed in B&W. Desi had an idea to shoot a TV show before a live audience in sequence, as one would watch a stage play. Using three cameras to cover all the angles simultaneously, he would catch a wide master shot, with two cameras to cover close-ups, two-shots, etc. Today it is done almost the exact same way, only today we use four cameras for live audience sit-coms such as Seinfeld, Fraser, etc. Today, such sit-coms have kind of faded away. When I was new in the business, Paramount had Taxi, Happy Days, Mork & Mindy, etc. shot in that fashion. In the 90's I spent a few years on sit-coms such as Seinfeld, Carolyn in the City, 3rd Rock from the Sun, etc. at the CBS Studio Center. We film one-hour episodics out of sequence to save money, entirely diferent than the live audience productions. By the way, the first TV show ever broadcast in color was "Bonanza". NBC was the first network to broadcast in color and it started in the early to mid-60's. I worked a lot with the most popular TV actor in history, Michael Landon for many years on "Little House on the Praire" (the last season) and "Highway To Heaven". I was his Lighting Gaffer (Director) on the productions and it was the best job in town. I'm a third generation lighting technician, my grandfather began at Warner Bros. in 1927 and lit some of their greatest features including "The African Queen", "Rebel Without a Cause" and his last, "Who's Afraid of Virgina Wolf". I was pretty much raised by my grandfather and spent a lot of time as a kid hanging around film sets he worked. I know that business much better than I do boxing. As for Spider Man-4, we will begin filming in early December. I'm not involved with the "Transformers" production. At the moment I'm working on two TV series, "Desperate Housewives" at Universal and a kids show for Nickelodeon that films at Paramount. I'll do this until Spider Man begins production. It was put back from Sept. to December and will have a 105 day shooting schedule. The first four months will be in L.A., followed by two weeks in New York. If I travel to NY with the company, I would love to have you and your nephews visit the set. By the way, it's much more difficult to light a film in B&W than it is color. In B&W, you must create depth with shadow and shades of grey. Color creates it's own depth. I'm getting too technical, it's hard to explain easily. My grandad was a master at lighting B&W, hence the Academy Award for "Virginia Wolf" which was the first for legendary cinematographer Haskell Wexler.
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Sky Sports is reporting that former British super-bantamweight champion Matthew Marsh has been forced to retire in the wake of a car crash which injured his back and his neck, and that Welshman Jamie Arthur takes his place in a shot at the Commonwealth title next month against unbeaten Scot Kris Hughes.
If true, it lands as a devastating blow on 28-year-old Matthew, a throwback performer from West Ham who gave his greatest performance in what turned out to be his last fight against Jason Booth earlier this year. Marsh was a huge underdog but he floored and busted up the world class Booth in his own hometown of Nottingham, before a bad cut over his right eye brought about the end in the 11th round. Said the ever-honest Booth afterwards: "I thought he was in front when it was stopped."
Marsh, with just 15 fights on his ledger and with plenty still to offer, lost only to Booth and to the much bigger and then unbeaten "Dirty" Derry Matthews in an ambitious match three years ago, also in 11 rounds. He proved against Booth, and when he won the British title in an upset against Esham Pickering in 2008, that he was a dangerous animal backed to the wall, a fighter very much in the mould of Terry Downes, wiry yet deceptively strong, aggressive yet deceptively clever, cut-prone yet totally unflappable.
They said Marsh couldn’t bang but he rocked Pickering several times on the way to a clear decision at York Hall. He retained the belt in the third of three distance thrillers with Thetford’s gutsy Rocky Dean, also at York Hall, which Matthew made a fortress for himself, roared on by loyal support. Marsh was a championship fighter, a former double ABA champion who represented England in the 2002 Commonwealth Games and adapted well to the pro game when he turned over in 2004, setting a ferocious pace in his contests and maintaining it. His first battle with Dean, at the ExCel Arena in London in 2006 was a throwback to the days of Shoreditch Town Hall - blood and snot everywhere - as both men went at it non-stop for the Southern Area title. Marsh took the 10-round decision and amazingly, without a loosener, went in again with Dean a fight later and took another 10-round decision.
By this time, Marsh was boxing more and hitting harder but grit, stamina, strength, workrate and a great chin were still his major assets, and only weight problems forced him to relinquish the Lonsdale Belt last year, although he came back with fine wins over Josh Wale and Marc Callaghan, prior to the immense showing against Booth in an attempt to win back the British title.
Marsh looked a big favourite to get back on track in that shot at the vacant Commonwealth super-bantamweight title next month in London against the inexperienced Hughes. It wasn’t to be. Marsh was hurt in the summer, and must have broken down in training.
Life is the biggest left-hooker of all.
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The stars turn out for the final boxing night at Harringay Arena in October 1958. Promoter Jack Solomons is surroundered by a host of great names, Max Baer, Henry Armstrong, Jack Petersen and Randy Turpin among them.
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Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:113 degrees in downtown L.A. today. A record high. :oops: :witzend:
Whew! It was a hot one! :KO:
Same for today?..... :witzend:
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Wow Rick- What a great family history. I loved watching all those productions over the years. You grand-dad and father were right in there from the very beginning of movies. Great history. You must be very proud to be able to follow in their footsteps. You have an interesting life as well-Thanks for sharing. I would love to hook up with you in New York if you make your way out here in the spring. I know your time is well spent on productions, but I can show you some great boxing stuff if time allows.

PS: Spiderman The Broadway Musical opens up in November here in New York. One of its stars
Mr Michael Mulheren sang our "National Anthem" and "God Bless America" at my firehouse's
9-11 Memorial Tribute. I would think the two productions at that time will have some interesting photo ops going on.
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"John Will Be Fine."

The manager of a large office noticed a new man one day and told him to come into his office. "What is your name?" was the first thing the manager asked the new guy.

"John," the new guy replied.

The manager scowled, "Look, I don't know what kind of a namby-pamby place you worked at before, but I don't call anyone by their first name. It breeds familiarity and that leads to a breakdown in authority. I refer to my employees by their last name only - Smith, Jones, Baker - that's all. I am to be referred to only as Mr. Robertson. Now that we got that straight, what is your last name?"

The new guy sighed and said, "Darling. My name is John Darling."

"Okay, John, the next thing I want to tell you is..."
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Tom, did you ever get the movie I send you a week ago today?
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Yes, I got it. Thanks. I haven't had a chance to watch it. I have been out of town since Friday.
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Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
Charie . . . I'm only 5'5" and understand those words more than you might believe.
Love the tall ones. :OhYes: (and the short ones, and everything in between :lol: )
Of course, today I'm happily married so I guess I'm referring to days gone by.
Rick, my father was about 5'5" and I can tell you with absolute certainty that a man's height has nothing to do with the size of a man.

Randy :TU:
When it comes to height, I've never wished to be any taller (or shorter) than I am.
I'm certainly not God's gift to women, but I've sure had the luck to keep the company of a lot of beauties over the years.
I'm far from perfect, so maybe I'm just lucky, but I wouldn't change a thing.
Life becomes a lot better for people when they realize that they are perfect just the way they are.
Take what you have and make the most of it, and you will come out on top.
Interesting discussion. Being tall is not all its cracked up to be. It does have some advantages:
1. I have never had to invest in a step-stool or step-ladder.
2. I can reach all the shelves in the grocery store.
3. I never have to worry about standing or sitting in the back of a crowded theater and being able to see the stage or screen.
4. I am told that statistically tall people earn more. (I don’t know if that is true or not.)
5. I am one-third of the way to tall, dark and handsome.

But it also has distinct disadvantages:
1. I don’t fit in most showers (the shower head is too low, and there is not enough room to move around).
2. Baths don’t help; the tub is too short and my knees are under my chin.
3. Ceiling fans are lethal objects.
4. I hit my head all the time on any number of objects - small door frames and hanging objects.
5. There is usually not enough room in cars or airplanes. (Airplane seating is the single biggest disadvantage of being tall. Flying domestic in coach is a nightmare for anybody over 6’.)
6. It’s hard to find clothes that fit – especially long-shelve shirts and sweaters.
7. Mirrors in many hotels are hung too low on the wall, and I have to duck to use them.

The stupid questions are irritating. If I had a dime for every time I’ve been asked how the weather is up here, I could have retired two years ago!

When I was younger, people used to ask me if I played basketball. My reply: “No, do you play miniature golf?” :lol: :lol:
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raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote: Rick, my father was about 5'5" and I can tell you with absolute certainty that a man's height has nothing to do with the size of a man.

Randy :TU:
When it comes to height, I've never wished to be any taller (or shorter) than I am.
I'm certainly not God's gift to women, but I've sure had the luck to keep the company of a lot of beauties over the years.
I'm far from perfect, so maybe I'm just lucky, but I wouldn't change a thing.
Life becomes a lot better for people when they realize that they are perfect just the way they are.
Take what you have and make the most of it, and you will come out on top.
Interesting discussion. Being tall is not all its cracked up to be. It does have some advantages:
1. I have never had to invest in a step-stool or step-ladder.
2. I can reach all the shelves in the grocery store.
3. I never have to worry about standing or sitting in the back of a crowded theater and being able to see the stage or screen.
4. I am told that statistically tall people earn more. (I don’t know if that is true or not.)
5. I am one-third of the way to tall, dark and handsome.

But it also has distinct disadvantages:
1. I don’t fit in most showers (the shower head is too low, and there is not enough room to move around).
2. Baths don’t help; the tub is too short and my knees are under my chin.
3. Ceiling fans are lethal objects.
4. I hit my head all the time on any number of objects - small door frames and hanging objects.
5. There is usually not enough room in cars or airplanes. (Airplane seating is the single biggest disadvantage of being tall. Flying domestic in coach is a nightmare for anybody over 6’.)
6. It’s hard to find clothes that fit – especially long-shelve shirts and sweaters.
7. Mirrors in many hotels are hung too low on the wall, and I have to duck to use them.

The stupid questions are irritating. If I had a dime for every time I’ve been asked how the weather is up here, I could have retired two years ago!

When I was younger, people used to ask me if I played basketball. My reply: “No, do you play miniature golf?” :lol: :lol:

Good post, Tom. Minature golf? :lol: :lol: That's a great counter punch!
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Well gentlemen sorry I got on so late my Dad had me working outside building chicken coops and planting trees. You guys arnt joking where do these classic men get their energy. I will follow your instruction on how to post Picts it'll have to be tomorrow though. If you guys would like to see them They are scanned on my Facebook page stop by. Search by email: [email protected]

Thanks gentlemen I love your stories I will try to translate some of the ones I hear while I'm working on my yard with him. See you earlier tomorrow :) I hope.
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Andy Lee, the man with a limited plan, continues to feast on pathetic American Midwest opposition over in the States as he builds to an all-Ireland middleweight slop-out with John Duddy (according to Mickey Mouse sources), but he will gain absolutely nothing from his 10-rounder with hicktowner Troy Lowry in a hicktown called Hammond, Indiana, on Saturday night.
Frankly, this match stinks. While Lee’s Limerick compatriot, the 10-fight Willie Casey, takes a 'real' fight in November against Spanish threat Kiko Martinez, while the glass-jawed Amir Khan takes a real fight in December against Argentine threat Marcos Maidana, southpaw Lee faces a 40-year-old "Okie from Muskogee" who has been stopped in his last four contests and who everyone in the world knows is going to lose this weekend. What kind of a boxing contest is that? The frightening thing is Lowry could also get hurt, and Lee’s increasingly out-of-touch mentor Manny Steward should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. Boxing really does make it easy for the abolitionists at times.
The big, heavy handed Lee, 23-1 (17), has won his last eight fights since he was stopped in seven glaring rounds by Texan Brian Vera in 2008 and is the greatest 'on top' fighter in the business but he scrambles for boxing instinct against anyone with the gall to hit back. Why else are they picking an opponent for him like Lowry (and before Lowry the equally dire likes of James Cook and Michael Walker)?
You know, Lee would get a better fight if he spilt somebody's pint in Fitzgerald’s in Limerick than he will fighting Lowry. It won't be competitive and it won't be pretty.
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Going To The Fights 1951
By Frank Baltazar

Eddie Gomez was watching a boxing match on a nineteen inch TV when his dad, Rudy, came in the house and told Eddie.
“Eddie, look what I have here”
“Pops, did you get some tickets for the title fight?”
Eddie had been bugging his pop to take him to see the Art Argon vs Jimmy Carter lightweight title fight at the Olympic Auditorium for some time, his pop thought that Eddie; being twelve years old was to young to go to the fights.
“Yes, Eddie, I bought four tickets, your uncles, Tony and Ray, will be going with us. Now I hope your mom doesn't get mad at me, she too thinks you are to young to go to the fights”.
Eddie's mom, Lupe, was not too crazy to see Eddie going to the fights, but she did agree with Rudy; that their son would be disappointed if he was not allowed to go with his pop and uncles, so she gave her okay for Eddie to go.

Eddie couldn't wait to find his best friend, Cheno Diaz, to tell him the good news. He found Cheno tending his two cows and one goat at a nearby pasture.
“Cheno, my pops is taking me to see the Aragon and Carter fight”,
'Gee Eddie, you are lucky, I wish I could go”.
“I'll ask my pop if he can get another ticket for you. Cheno, you think your mom and pops would let you go?”.
“I'll ask them” said Cheno.,
Eddie ask his pop if he could get a ticket for Cheno.
“Yes, I'm sure I can get one, Eddie, you tell Cheno, that if his mom and pop say it okay for him to go; we'll take him with us”.
Next day in school, Eddie told Cheno the good news.
“Cheno, my pops said that he'll get you a ticket if your mom and pop say that's its okay for you to go”.
“Eddie, mom and pop said I could go as long as your father was going, they trust your father, but not your uncle Ray, they say he is crazy, that he himself will get into a fight at the fights”.
“Yeah, uncle Ray is a bit wild, especially when he is drinking beer, but pops won't let him drink too much, he'll be okay”.

Two weeks later, they all piled into Rudy's 1946 Dodge and headed west on Washington Boulevard. Eddie and Cheno were so excited that they couldn't sit still and it was starting to bug uncle Ray.
“If you kids don't sit still, we are going to stop and drop you off here; and you are going to have to wait for us to pick you up after the fights” said uncle Ray.
“Leave them alone Ray, they are just excited to be going to the fights, after all, its their first time to see boxing live. You remember when you went for the first time and you got all crazy on us?, wanting to fight everybody there” said uncle Tony.
“Yeah, but I was drunk; and let me remind you that I was doing okay until that big guy cold-cock me and knocked me on my ass” uncle Ray laughed.

The area was so pack that they had to park 3 blocks away. Eddie and Cheno were shadow boxing as they walked up 18th Avenue.
“Hey Eddie, Cheno, you two want to become fighters, because if you do, I'll train you guys” said uncle Ray.
“Ray, what the hell do you know about training fighters? asked Rudy.
“Hey, Rudy, I have fighting experience”
“Yes, you do but, its street fighting experience, an I don't think you ever won a fight”
“At least I've never been ko, always finish on my feet” laughed Ray.

As the group approached the front entrance of the Olympic, they started seeing movie and boxing celebrities hanging around the sidewalk of Grand Avenue.
“Cheno! There's John Wayne and Pedro Armendariz” said the excitable Eddie
“And over there is Rosemary Cooney and her husband Jose Ferrer” said uncle Tony
“I see Tommy Campbell, Frankie Muche, Bob Murphy, Enrique Bolanos and Freddie Babe Herman over there talking to two men” said Cheno
“That's Cal Eaton and Babe McCoy they are talking too, they are probably talking about upcoming fights” said Rudy
Before entering the Olympic, they all bought the Knockout program from Speedy Dado. Eddie and Cheno started getting autographs on their programs to show their friends in school the next day.

They found their sits in the second to last roll in the peanut gallery. No sooner had they sat down when rolls of toilet paper started flying around, soon some ladies underwear were flying by. Eddie and Cheno started making paper plane and would fly them down to the ring.
“This is fun, Eddie, thanks for bringing me” said Cheno
“Thank my pop, Cheno, he is the one who bought your ticket”

The fighters for the first fight came in ring. Rudy, Tony and Ray started betting on the fights, they would bet one dollar on the white or black corner, what ever fighter went to the corner they had, that was their bet.
The first fight was won by Al Galindo over Bobby Brewer, Rudy and Tony won a dollar each, Ray lost a dollar.
Second fight was between Joey Gurrola and Sammy Figueroa.
“Cheno, see that big guy in Figueroa's corner? That's big Jake Horn, he's a great trainer” said Eddie
The fight ended in a draw.
“Guess it didn't help Figueroa having Jake Horn in the corner, did it, Eddie? Said Cheno, as he threw a roll of toilet paper.
“He didn't lose did he?” said Eddie
“Well no, he didn't”
.
After a couple of more fights it was time for the main event, Art Aragon and Jimmy Carter would be coming into the ring soon.

Aragon looking weak is the first to come into the ring.
“Aragon is going to lose” said Eddie
“How do you know? Asked uncle Ray.
“Look how pale he looks, I read in the Mirror that he was having trouble making '35” said Eddie.
Carter comes into the ring looking great. After both fighters have been gloved in the ring they are introduce by Jimmy lennon , referee Mushy Callahan calls the fighters to the center of the ring for their instructions.
The fight started fairly even for the first four rounds, from the fifth round on it was all Carter who won an easy15 round unanimous decision.
Right after the fight ended uncle Ray wanted to leave.
'Okay guys, our guy lost; so lets get out of here”
“No! We have to stay and watch Keeny Teran fight Bobby Garza, they are fighting a six rounder” said Eddie.
“Ray, Keeny is the toast of the town, we have to stay watch him fight” said uncle Tony
They stayed and watch Keeny win a unanimous decision.

On the way home Uncle Ray asked Eddie and Cheno if they wanted to fight.
“Guys, if you want to fight, I'll train you, after you train for a couple of months; I'll take you to the downtown CYO where Johnny Flores run the boxing program, I'm sure we can get you some sparring. Johnny is my friend and he'll help us out.
“Ray, you don't even know Johnny Flores” said Rudy
“Well maybe not, but I know where the CYO is at” laughed uncle Ray

Next day at school Eddie and Cheno were the toast of the school as they were holding court with their friends.
“You should have seen Aragon land that left hook of his” said Cheno as he threw a left hook.
“To bad he didn't landed it enough” said Eddie
“He was to weak from making weight” said Cheno
“He was” agree Eddie
“But you should have seen that little Keeny Teran” Eddie and Cheno said in unity.
“Guys, Cheno and I are going to start training next week, my uncle Ray is going to train us” said Eddie
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CNorkusJr wrote:Wow Rick- What a great family history. I loved watching all those productions over the years. You grand-dad and father were right in there from the very beginning of movies. Great history. You must be very proud to be able to follow in their footsteps. You have an interesting life as well-Thanks for sharing. I would love to hook up with you in New York if you make your way out here in the spring. I know your time is well spent on productions, but I can show you some great boxing stuff if time allows.

PS: Spiderman The Broadway Musical opens up in November here in New York. One of its stars
Mr Michael Mulheren sang our "National Anthem" and "God Bless America" at my firehouse's
9-11 Memorial Tribute. I would think the two productions at that time will have some interesting photo ops going on.
Thanks, Charlie. Chances are I won't make the trip to NY with Spider Man. Although the NY techs and Californians are all a member of the same Union, it's hard for California locals to work in L.A. so they only take a partial crew. Since I won't be a "key tech" on the shoot, I likely won't be able to make the trip. My studio affiliations are all from my mothers side of the family. Still, when the day comes that I return to NY, I'd really like to take you up on that great offer. I doubt anybody could show me the NY side of boxing like you.
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kikibalt wrote:Going To The Fights 1951
By Frank Baltazar

Eddie Gomez was watching a boxing match on a nineteen inch TV when his dad, Rudy, came in the house and told Eddie.
“Eddie, look what I have here”
“Pops, did you get some tickets for the title fight?”
Eddie had been bugging his pop to take him to see the Art Argon vs Jimmy Carter lightweight title fight at the Olympic Auditorium for some time, his pop thought that Eddie; being twelve years old was to young to go to the fights.
“Yes, Eddie, I bought four tickets, your uncles, Tony and Ray, will be going with us. Now I hope your mom doesn't get mad at me, she too thinks you are to young to go to the fights”.
Eddie's mom, Lupe, was not too crazy to see Eddie going to the fights, but she did agree with Rudy; that their son would be disappointed if he was not allowed to go with his pop and uncles, so she gave her okay for Eddie to go.

Eddie couldn't wait to find his best friend, Cheno Diaz, to tell him the good news. He found Cheno tending his two cows and one goat at a nearby pasture.
“Cheno, my pops is taking me to see the Aragon and Carter fight”,
'Gee Eddie, you are lucky, I wish I could go”.
“I'll ask my pop if he can get another ticket for you. Cheno, you think your mom and pops would let you go?”.
“I'll ask them” said Cheno.,
Eddie ask his pop if he could get a ticket for Cheno.
“Yes, I'm sure I can get one, Eddie, you tell Cheno, that if his mom and pop say it okay for him to go; we'll take him with us”.
Next day in school, Eddie told Cheno the good news.
“Cheno, my pops said that he'll get you a ticket if your mom and pop say that's its okay for you to go”.
“Eddie, mom and pop said I could go as long as your father was going, they trust your father, but not your uncle Ray, they say he is crazy, that he himself will get into a fight at the fights”.
“Yeah, uncle Ray is a bit wild, especially when he is drinking beer, but pops won't let him drink too much, he'll be okay”.

Two weeks later, they all piled into Rudy's 1946 Dodge and headed west on Washington Boulevard. Eddie and Cheno were so excited that they couldn't sit still and it was starting to bug uncle Ray.
“If you kids don't sit still, we are going to stop and drop you off here; and you are going to have to wait for us to pick you up after the fights” said uncle Ray.
“Leave them alone Ray, they are just excited to be going to the fights, after all, its their first time to see boxing live. You remember when you went for the first time and you got all crazy on us?, wanting to fight everybody there” said uncle Tony.
“Yeah, but I was drunk; and let me remind you that I was doing okay until that big guy cold-cock me and knocked me on my ass” uncle Ray laughed.

The area was so pack that they had to park 3 blocks away. Eddie and Cheno were shadow boxing as they walked up 18th Avenue.
“Hey Eddie, Cheno, you two want to become fighters, because if you do, I'll train you guys” said uncle Ray.
“Ray, what the hell do you know about training fighters? asked Rudy.
“Hey, Rudy, I have fighting experience”
“Yes, you do but, its street fighting experience, an I don't think you ever won a fight”
“At least I've never been ko, always finish on my feet” laughed Ray.

As the group approached the front entrance of the Olympic, they started seeing movie and boxing celebrities hanging around the sidewalk of Grand Avenue.
“Cheno! There's John Wayne and Pedro Armendariz” said the excitable Eddie
“And over there is Rosemary Cooney and her husband Jose Ferrer” said uncle Tony
“I see Tommy Campbell, Frankie Muche, Bob Murphy, Enrique Bolanos and Freddie Babe Herman over there talking to two men” said Cheno
“That's Cal Eaton and Babe McCoy they are talking too, they are probably talking about upcoming fights” said Rudy
Before entering the Olympic, they all bought the Knockout program from Speedy Dado. Eddie and Cheno started getting autographs on their programs to show their friends in school the next day.

They found their sits in the second to last roll in the peanut gallery. No sooner had they sat down when rolls of toilet paper started flying around, soon some ladies underwear were flying by. Eddie and Cheno started making paper plane and would fly them down to the ring.
“This is fun, Eddie, thanks for bringing me” said Cheno
“Thank my pop, Cheno, he is the one who bought your ticket”

The fighters for the first fight came in ring. Rudy, Tony and Ray started betting on the fights, they would bet one dollar on the white or black corner, what ever fighter went to the corner they had, that was their bet.
The first fight was won by Al Galindo over Bobby Brewer, Rudy and Tony won a dollar each, Ray lost a dollar.
Second fight was between Joey Gurrola and Sammy Figueroa.
“Cheno, see that big guy in Figueroa's corner? That's big Jake Horn, he's a great trainer” said Eddie
The fight ended in a draw.
“Guess it didn't help Figueroa having Jake Horn in the corner, did it, Eddie? Said Cheno, as he threw a roll of toilet paper.
“He didn't lose did he?” said Eddie
“Well no, he didn't”
.
After a couple of more fights it was time for the main event, Art Aragon and Jimmy Carter would be coming into the ring soon.

Aragon looking weak is the first to come into the ring.
“Aragon is going to lose” said Eddie
“How do you know? Asked uncle Ray.
“Look how pale he looks, I read in the Mirror that he was having trouble making '35” said Eddie.
Carter comes into the ring looking great. After both fighters have been gloved in the ring they are introduce by Jimmy lennon , referee Mushy Callahan calls the fighters to the center of the ring for their instructions.
The fight started fairly even for the first four rounds, from the fifth round on it was all Carter who won an easy15 round unanimous decision.
Right after the fight ended uncle Ray wanted to leave.
'Okay guys, our guy lost; so lets get out of here”
“No! We have to stay and watch Keeny Teran fight Bobby Garza, they are fighting a six rounder” said Eddie.
“Ray, Keeny is the toast of the town, we have to stay watch him fight” said uncle Tony
They stayed and watch Keeny win a unanimous decision.

On the way home Uncle Ray asked Eddie and Cheno if they wanted to fight.
“Guys, if you want to fight, I'll train you, after you train for a couple of months; I'll take you to the downtown CYO where Johnny Flores run the boxing program, I'm sure we can get you some sparring. Johnny is my friend and he'll help us out.
“Ray, you don't even know Johnny Flores” said Rudy
“Well maybe not, but I know where the CYO is at” laughed uncle Ray

Next day at school Eddie and Cheno were the toast of the school as they were holding court with their friends.
“You should have seen Aragon land that left hook of his” said Cheno as he threw a left hook.
“To bad he didn't landed it enough” said Eddie
“He was to weak from making weight” said Cheno
“He was” agree Eddie
“But you should have seen that little Keeny Teran” Eddie and Cheno said in unity.
“Guys, Cheno and I are going to start training next week, my uncle Ray is going to train us” said Eddie

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raylawpc wrote:"John Will Be Fine."

The manager of a large office noticed a new man one day and told him to come into his office. "What is your name?" was the first thing the manager asked the new guy.

"John," the new guy replied.

The manager scowled, "Look, I don't know what kind of a namby-pamby place you worked at before, but I don't call anyone by their first name. It breeds familiarity and that leads to a breakdown in authority. I refer to my employees by their last name only - Smith, Jones, Baker - that's all. I am to be referred to only as Mr. Robertson. Now that we got that straight, what is your last name?"

The new guy sighed and said, "Darling. My name is John Darling."

"Okay, John, the next thing I want to tell you is..."
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bennie wrote:Andy Lee, the man with a limited plan, continues to feast on pathetic American Midwest opposition over in the States as he builds to an all-Ireland middleweight slop-out with John Duddy (according to Mickey Mouse sources), but he will gain absolutely nothing from his 10-rounder with hicktowner Troy Lowry in a hicktown called Hammond, Indiana, on Saturday night.
Frankly, this match stinks. While Lee’s Limerick compatriot, the 10-fight Willie Casey, takes a 'real' fight in November against Spanish threat Kiko Martinez, while the glass-jawed Amir Khan takes a real fight in December against Argentine threat Marcos Maidana, southpaw Lee faces a 40-year-old "Okie from Muskogee" who has been stopped in his last four contests and who everyone in the world knows is going to lose this weekend. What kind of a boxing contest is that? The frightening thing is Lowry could also get hurt, and Lee’s increasingly out-of-touch mentor Manny Steward should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. Boxing really does make it easy for the abolitionists at times.
The big, heavy handed Lee, 23-1 (17), has won his last eight fights since he was stopped in seven glaring rounds by Texan Brian Vera in 2008 and is the greatest 'on top' fighter in the business but he scrambles for boxing instinct against anyone with the gall to hit back. Why else are they picking an opponent for him like Lowry (and before Lowry the equally dire likes of James Cook and Michael Walker)?
You know, Lee would get a better fight if he spilt somebody's pint in Fitzgerald’s in Limerick than he will fighting Lowry. It won't be competitive and it won't be pretty.
Actually, bennie, you are only half right. Hammond is a suburb and part of the metropolitan Chicago area. It has a population of nearly 100,000 and is one of the largest cities in Indiana. It is not a "hick town." Muskogee, Oklahoma, however, is very much a "hick town."
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Rick,The offer will always stand :TU:

Frank-I loved your "going to the fights " story. You paint a great picture.
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CNorkusJr wrote:Rick,The offer will always stand :TU:

Frank-I loved your "going to the fights " story. You paint a great picture.
Thanks Charlie, though I'm not much of a writer, I do enjoy writing.
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