Calzaghe v Veit: Frank not happy with judge.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 05 May 2005, 06:59

Well, I don't think it's anything so overt as that. I think that when a sanctioning body has a long standing relationship with a promoter, which in the case of this fight they have with both. They are conscious not to piss them off. Neither promoter is going to be favoured unduly in this bout, in my opinion anyhow. It's not in the interests of the WBO to pull a fast one in any respect with the appointment of officials.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 05 May 2005, 07:02

i hope it goes to a decision now. Veit outworking calzaghe is not gonna happen though.

Calzaghe inside 6 rounds, i say. Veit has improved but calzaghe is too busy and slaps too hard.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 05 May 2005, 07:46

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Like I said before, Sports Network have made the WBO a bloody fortune over the years. This argument was poo-pooed before. However right now Sauerland have only 1 WBO champ, Zsolt Erdei, whilst SN have Nelson, Calzaghe and Harrison. Admittedly Nelson doesn't make them much, but Calzaghe and Harrison certainly aren't worth throwing away.

I will be very surprised if Calzaghe gets stiffed on a decision, not least because I don't think it goes that far.

Veit is a Universum boxer. Sauerland doesnt really acknowledge WBO, they have only promoted 1 WBO world title fight, Nelson vs May, and a WBO Intl fight, Hoffmann vs someone, and thats mostly because he couldnt give them proper title shots. A couple of years ago Sauerland said in an interview that he doesnt see WBO as a real title.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 05 May 2005, 08:16

Whoops! I always get universum and Sauerland confused. Am I right in thinking that the Klits were with Universum prior?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 05 May 2005, 08:17

Of course, I'm thinking of Klaus Kohl aren't I?

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 05 May 2005, 12:02

Klaus Peter Kohl = Universum and his son in law Dietar Poszwa runs Spotlight boxing. Universum had the Klitschkos under contract. The Klitschkos have now signed a co-promotion deal with the swiss Wilfried Sauerland (that promotos shows in Germany on austrian licens, which is also why both Klitschkos have an austrian licens now)

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 May 2005, 08:41

Fill yer boots

Weigh in takes place right about now...............

http://www.betinternet.com/en/console.bet

Round Betting
Calzaghe Round 1 8/1 Veit Round 1 100/1
Calzaghe Round 2 8/1 Veit Round 2 100/1
Calzaghe Round 3 8/1 Veit Round 3 100/1
Calzaghe Round 4 8/1 Veit Round 4 100/1
Calzaghe Round 5 10/1 Veit Round 5 100/1
Calzaghe Round 6 12/1 Veit Round 6 100/1
Calzaghe Round 7 14/1 Veit Round 7 100/1
Calzaghe Round 8 18/1 Veit Round 8 80/1
Calzaghe Round 9 18/1 Veit Round 9 80/1
Calzaghe Round 10 20/1 Veit Round 10 80/1
Calzaghe Round 11 25/1 Veit Round 11 80/1
Calzaghe Round 12 28/1 Veit Round 12 80/1
Calzaghe On Points 5/2 Veit On Points

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 06 May 2005, 09:13

Lad on another forum who has a friend at the event (mate of a mate of a mate of a dog, I know) said that Veit looked to be filling his pants at the public workout / face-off.

Please don't shoot me for the spurious source, just thought I'd drop it in.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 May 2005, 09:30

I was just thinking along those lines - I might have a bash on that 1st round knockout after all.

It's not often a fighter finds himself in Veit's position tomorrow night. Having to face a guy who has well and truly iced him inside three minutes the last time they met, with a world title on the line to boot.

He's going to feel the world on his shoulders as they face off before the opening belt - shaking like a leaf in the wind....and no wonder.

Calzaghe says he's not going for a first round repeat, but I think he'll find it impossible to resist having a go at catching Veit cold yet again.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 06 May 2005, 09:41

Just imagine how exciting this must all be if you're a Veit fan. Lost badly last time, now it's in his territory, Veit has clearly improved but has he improved enough? I envy the Germans this week.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 06 May 2005, 09:58

Calzaghe and betting reminds me of the salem fight, £100 on 13/2 for calzaghe on points, how sweet was that.

I'm still waiting for another one of those to pop up.

As for the fight, Calzaghe wins inside 6. Don't think he'll starch veit again. If veit is shitting himself, he'll just run in the 1st round this time, I'm sure the scenario has gone through his head a few times. He'll just be looking to stay out of trouble, IMO.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 06 May 2005, 11:04

The worrying thing for Veit is the shots Calzaghe did him with last time were practically cuffs/slaps I dont recall a clean shot landing square on the chin.

He was practically playing pat a cake with his head.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 May 2005, 13:44

Kilburn wrote:I've just got my Sky back up and running (for how long is another matter) in time for Tito next week but I'm pretty pissed off that after all the mismatches we've seen Calzaghe take part in we miss this.

I'm not picking Veit to win but I'm positive it's a tough fight for Joe away from home.

You can listen to the fight live here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4522159.stm

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 06 May 2005, 13:56

MightyWarrior wrote:Frank has complained to the WBO about German judge Axel Zielke's appointment for Joe's rematch with Mario Veit this Sat.
This is the same guy who scored Johnny Nelson v Alexander Petkovic a draw.

On the face of it, it seems unlikely, but I wouldn't be too surprised if this went the distance.

But if I was betting, I'd probably go Joe by late stopage....

I understand this judge has now been replaced by someone else.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 May 2005, 14:13

yes he has. Warren flexed his muscles, and showed who was the man with the influence where the WBO is concerned. Universum only have 1 fighter with a WBO belt right now, and that is Zsolt Erdei, who as far as I know is not a major draw.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 06 May 2005, 17:49

Unversum only have one WBO champion at the moment but they have " a lot" of title shots comming up (at least potentially).
Heavy: Krasniqi in an eliminator, Sanders also ranked
200: The fighters ranked
175: Champ + two fighters ranked. Ulrich & Erdei will be part of a french-"german" WBO-WBA unification tournament
168: Veit mandatory
160: Sturm mandatory but will most likely fight Masoe for WBA regular
154: Dzinziruk mandatory
147: Trabant somehow still ranked
140: Abdulaev title shot comming up + Kotelnik also ranked
135 to straw: No ranked figters (Only think they have Sidorenko of fighters below that weight.)

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 May 2005, 05:28

jamesmcdonnell wrote:yes he has. Warren flexed his muscles, and showed who was the man with the influence where the WBO is concerned. Universum only have 1 fighter with a WBO belt right now, and that is Zsolt Erdei, who as far as I know is not a major draw.

Sicknote cant draw flies to a turd either. Apart from fighting in his own backyard!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 07 May 2005, 05:59

Both weighed in at 167.6

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 07 May 2005, 07:21

Wow, Veit is huge! is he standing on something?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 May 2005, 08:19

Probably a big mound of his own poo, if what I heard about his manner at the open workouts is anything to go by.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 07 May 2005, 08:58

According to this site Veit is 4 inches taller than Calzaghe

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 07 May 2005, 11:37

Now, this is something that might not be important, or might even due to natural age.

However, Calzaghe is definately thinning on top and it seems a sudden loss. Now, through my studies in nutrition I know the deficiencies in certain nutrients (Zinc and a few others) can lead to a dramatic thinning of the hair (so all those who are thinning - top up on these). I'm just wandering if he has had to diet so much to make the weight that he is deficient in some nutrients.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 07 May 2005, 12:06

calzaghe looks like he has a tupée on.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 07 May 2005, 12:46

stujones wrote:Now, this is something that might not be important, or might even due to natural age.

However, Calzaghe is definately thinning on top and it seems a sudden loss. Now, through my studies in nutrition I know the deficiencies in certain nutrients (Zinc and a few others) can lead to a dramatic thinning of the hair (so all those who are thinning - top up on these). I'm just wandering if he has had to diet so much to make the weight that he is deficient in some nutrients.

What other nutrients, Stu?

Some kid at work said I had a Shearer hair cut!

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 07 May 2005, 17:39

Losing the will to live listening to this Welsh radio waiting for the fight. God its dull.

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