Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Monday October 4, 2010 - Monday Night Fightzone

1. 6-7 pm AEST- The Sweet Science National Boxing Program

Program #219 : This week's Sweet Science boxing program is broadcast from 3KND 1503 AM in Melbourne 93.7FM in Sydney.

The show features the following:

News with Paul Upham featuring:

- Results from Serge Yannick vs Joseph Kwadjo PABA super middleweight title fight on Friday night in Coburg
- Lionel Rose to be crowned Legend at the Australian National Boxing Hall of Fame
- Vic Darchinyan attends Showtime conference to promote the bantamweight tournament
- Paul Williams speaks on his rematch with Sergio Martinez
- Tua vs Klitschko negotiations stall
- Geale v Kamarzin + undercard announced for October 31
- China beats America 6-5 in the Empires Collide amateur tournament

Guests including:

Serge Yannick: The African Warrior speaks about his interim PABA super middleweight victory over tough Ghanian Joseph Kwadjo.

Erin McGowan: Australia's leading female boxer to talk about her preparation for her WBO lightweight title shot against tough English fighter Lyndsey Scragg this weekend in Joondalup.

Brett McCormick: President of the Australian National Boxing Hall of Fame for final words on Saturdays Induction ceremony at the MCG including the elevation of Lionel Rose to legend status.

Michael Kirby: The Iron Rhino has recovered from injury and talks about his upcoming return fight and plans for the Australian title.

Daniel Dawson: World title contender and former Kickboxing champ talks about his Saturday night fight with Frank LoPorto for the PABA light middleweight title in Joondalup WA.

Radio: The Sweet Science Australian National boxing radio program is broadcast live to over 50 stations on the National Indigenous Radio Service including:

Sydney: Koori Radio: 93.7 FM
Melbourne: 3KND: 1503 AM
Townsville: 4K1G: 107.1 FM

Internet:

Listen via streaming on www.nirs.org.au or www.gadigal.org.au or www.3knd.org.au

2. 11.30pm - KOTV on Foxtel Channel 519 (Sky Racing Service)

KOTV is a half hour international weekly boxing news, interviews, previews and historical feature program courtesy of Sky Ringside.

Tonights show features:

- Heavyweight action - Chris Arreola v Manuel Quezada
- Interview with the Nightmare Chris Arreola- Max Schmelling v Young Stribling - Fight of the year 1931

- Note : KOTV is repeated at 8.30am AEST on Tuesdays and 8am on Wednesdays

3. 12 midnight Canvas Classics on Foxtel Channel 515 (Sky Racing Channel)

TBA
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Just say'n a quick thanks for the interview Pat and Col,should be giv'n you boys somthing to talk about after my next fight!
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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It was our pleasure Mick.

You have provided much needed flair to the Australian heavyweight scene in your journey so far.

Like many fans we are hoping you make the subtle defensive improvements that lead to a long and sustainable career.

Viva the Iron Rhino!
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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I have been telling him that for ages ,but rather than listen he's going to another trainer , good luck don't come back .
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Whats going on here, a good old fashion split hey, all the best Mick.
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Well done dave!Family spatt! on the internet,real classy mate!You just keep training all those champions you continuosly tell me about!The difference is I genuinly want you to succeed,were as you just want to see me crash and burn.It's quite pathetic.My new trainer will actually train me this time instead of turn up on fightnite and expect miracles.Which at times I delivered.
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Your the one with the class disrespecting me on the radio ,I got my gym for you .Your the one that doesn't want to train because of the grog I can't drag you to training .
If it wasn't for my techniques you would have never have beat briggsy.
Heart will only get you so far as we seen with the Haumono fight when your head got so big you didn't listen to a word I said watch the video
I told you to protect yourself even up til the nineth round where you see me show you the crossarm right in close to myself .
Not so far out as you were doing it ,no wonder you got KOed but you can blame me because you don't listen.
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I didn't even mention you on the radio mate,is that what hurt you.And the gym you got sucked!with crapy bags that I could'nt even hit they were so light or how about the fact that you can only train after 7pm when I'm already stuffed from work you want me to drive another hour to get there and start training so late,and get back home by 10.30pm on mon,tues and thurs(how odd are those days)that whole set up was bullcrap.The piss mate,I can drink whatever I want when i'm not training,and this coming from an alco who at 50 yrs old finally gave it up and now your born again.You owe boxing to me!you were fighting those stupid pittbulls and didn't even care about boxing until I got into it,now your supposed to be some sort of champion trainer.All the sparring I sourced,they were my friends,all the contacts you made stemed from my fights,your matchmaking was a joke!having me fight Lepai on my 5th fight 12 rnds,who does that,Only a novice trainer,if I had no defence wouldn't he have knocked me out.You only have to watch my fights to see that there is no guidence in the corner no tactics,nothing!you hardly even talk at all.The haumono fight was the only real test for you and you failed it was the first time I needed some guidence and it wasn't there,every other time I controlled the fight and didn't need help.I owe you NOTHING!Its you who owe's me,And i'll leave on a note i've learned about you "WE WIN BUT I LOSE"
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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If my gym is so bad then why does Amed Temar one of the best super heavyweights amature boxers in the state have no problems with the bags .Now I got Amed to spar you and I also asked you on numerous occasions if you wanted to spar Mark Hunt as I know his trainer Colin Holland from the 80's when Colin trained at my gym in Cabramatta with Alex Tui and Brendan Dempsey .
Now if you find that my gym is to far thats not my problem and as far as me bringing you along too fast as for fights go ,its because you started your pro career at age 30 if you started at age 20 then I have years to bring you along.As far as Leapai is concerned you were undefeated you used to train, look at your weight when you fought Haumono how unfit you were I tried everything to motivate you in that fight but you just didn't have it, no matter what anyone would have said.
And yes you did lose that Haumono fight I gave you at least 8 weeks notice and you still came in far to heavy now I suppose you wanted me to do the roadwork for you.
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Ahmed timor is a great bloke but nothing to do with you he has his own trainer(earl) who turnes up with him on every occation and goes through things like padwork,drills,groundwork and the like,you've never once(because your not qualified to)put me through the pads ,a somewhat easy thing for any other trainer.Trying to namedrop mark hunt when we both know he wasn't concerntrating on kickboxing or boxing for that matter at the times you called(he was out of shape).I do agree I had to get to the top quicker because of my age but I wasnt even sparring 12rnds at the time of the Lepai fight and you still put me in there.What about the first briggs fight,when I didn't even train the last couple of weeks due to sickness,yes,you still put me in there!Great management mate!Now the reason I weighed more at the time of the haumono fight was because all I was doing was sparring;and thats the only time I got to see my so called trainer.I'm glad you dwell on the haumono fight,like I didn't try to get 3 more fights after that to redeem myself,until my injury.It's just your whole half assed training techniques that bewildered me.Fighters change trainers all the time,I don't see them getting on a public forum and having a sook!
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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I didn't say I trained Amed I said he had no problem with the bags that you were whinging about .I have helped Amed with padwork he is sparring my boy tonight so we do go through some techniques together. As far as sparring Mark Hunt goes Amed has sparred him quite a few times and you have had the opportunity also in the years you were with me ,but you only wanted to spar him after he had fought and he was unfit. The reason I've done some name dropping is because I have been training people in my own gyms when you were in nappies.It's true I gave up the fight game for years but when I seen you couldn't go the distance with Brian Fitzgerald and Auckland Amatagi in gym spars I had to teach you how to fight and I did til you got a big head straight after you won the OPBF TITLE .
You would never have been able to out box Nathan Briggs because he was out pointing guys with a lot of amateur and pro experience, you would just have been a mediocre boxer ,because you were dead set against going in and having a go .Just look at how you fought Eric Nosa the first time as opposed to the second .
The reason I bring up Haumono is because you think my stuff is rubbish and you done your own thing and look at the result .
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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I am not angry that you have left ,it's good because you don't listen anyway and your only going to embarrass me when you fight someone that can hold their hands up .It's just you mention me on the radio trying to blame someone else for your own FARK UPS.
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Hey did you really have a good think about this reply as it took so long to reply and still come up with shitt,The first spar I ever had was against brian so me sparring a 6 fight pro was a good effort and no I didn't look the best at the end of it and aukland's spar was after my 3rd amature fight when he had 15 pro fights and I held my own in that spar,but again I was a novice.You have to start somewhere,lets see how they'd go now!the bags at the gym are the least of my problems,as I told you before it just wasn't possible logisticly to make your gym work,but you had plenty of time for you bigshot amatures who went nowere,pushing me to the side as if I wasn't the no 1 concern,If they are more important"as it showed"what can I do as a fighter but lose interest in you.I love the fact that now your reaching for the difference in the two eric nosa fights,it was my 1st pro fight ofcource I was nervous and wanted to play it safe,Isn't a fighter allowed to learn on the job,what works and what doesn't(Tyson cryed before his am fights does that still make him a bitch when he won the world title)Controlling your bodys natural defences like nerves and breathing are only learned in time,otherwise why doesn't a fighter fight for the world title in there first fight,cos they need experience,but not according to you!if they listen to you they'd be champs first fight ay!no learning needed!But your the ultimate trainer!so you tell me;jonny lewis and all the others are crap apparently,you keep telling me how great you are,admit it to everyone on here mate,you've been telling me for years!And what the fcuk would you know about having a go losing all 4 of your kickboxing fights to bums(Mr experience).I've fought only bums my whole career mate and just wait till I fight someone that holds their hands up ay!its only proof that you weren't at my fights even when you were in the corner!
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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I hope I get to see one of your fights you sound like you've got the fire in you :TU:
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iron rhino wrote:Hey did you really have a good think about this reply as it took so long to reply and still come up with shitt,The first spar I ever had was against brian so me sparring a 6 fight pro was a good effort and no I didn't look the best at the end of it and aukland's spar was after my 3rd amature fight when he had 15 pro fights and I held my own in that spar,but again I was a novice.You have to start somewhere,lets see how they'd go now!the bags at the gym are the least of my problems,as I told you before it just wasn't possible logisticly to make your gym work,but you had plenty of time for you bigshot amatures who went nowere,pushing me to the side as if I wasn't the no 1 concern,If they are more important"as it showed"what can I do as a fighter but lose interest in you.I love the fact that now your reaching for the difference in the two eric nosa fights,it was my 1st pro fight ofcource I was nervous and wanted to play it safe,Isn't a fighter allowed to learn on the job,what works and what doesn't(Tyson cryed before his am fights does that still make him a bitch when he won the world title)Controlling your bodys natural defences like nerves and breathing are only learned in time,otherwise why doesn't a fighter fight for the world title in there first fight,cos they need experience,but not according to you!if they listen to you they'd be champs first fight ay!no learning needed!But your the ultimate trainer!so you tell me;jonny lewis and all the others are crap apparently,you keep telling me how great you are,admit it to everyone on here mate,you've been telling me for years!And what the fcuk would you know about having a go losing all 4 of your kickboxing fights to bums(Mr experience).I've fought only bums my whole career mate and just wait till I fight someone that holds their hands up ay!its only proof that you weren't at my fights even when you were in the corner!
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Firstly I'll start with the Johnny Lewis comment ,remember you called out Haumono only after your second fight not me,but I liked your courage and then when you got to fight him what do you want me to say Johnny Lewis is a great trainer Solo has been with him for nine years you haven't got a hope in hell. Of course I've got to say he's crap that's what any trainer would say to give you encouragement.
I'm doing my job .
Now I'll start with me as a kickboxer .
Back in the 80's when Muai Thai was only new to OZ , I lived in Cabramatta and I paid a Thai guy named SAN half the money so he could teach Muai Thai to me and Australians at a gym I rented a couple of days a weak ,now with Muai Thai the rules are grappling knees elbows leg kicks and of course punches .But in them days in OZ you had to do kicks above the waist with shin pads only ,no knees, no elbows ,no clinching ,no leg kicks and you had to wear shin pads so kickboxing was a totally different sport.
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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So when a Muai Thai fighter fights a kickboxer then ,it's like when they bring over a Thai fighter on a boxing show now .My hands were not as sharp as a western boxer and I was in my late twenties early thirties when I started and the guys I fought 2 of them went on to be Australian Champs and 1 the state champ .I was rated number 4 in the state but number 2 was a pro boxer fighting amateur kickboxers as the sport wasn't regulated then as it is now and I also give up 10 kilo in my first fight to a guy who had 4 fights already in a heavier weight division .
Maybe my expectations of you were to much for you to handle.
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Cmon boys - can we all just get along. I am sure training together you must have had some laughs and good times. Focus on that.

Life is too short for immature bickering.

Iron Rhino - All the best, hope you get a good fight soon!

Dave - All the best to you too. Hopefully one of your ams will listen well and impliment the game plan and go a long way.

In any event, good luck to you both :TU:
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dan h wrote:Cmon boys - can we all just get along. I am sure training together you must have had some laughs and good times. Focus on that.

Life is too short for immature bickering.

Iron Rhino - All the best, hope you get a good fight soon!

Dave - All the best to you too. Hopefully one of your ams will listen well and impliment the game plan and go a long way.

In any event, good luck to you both :TU:
Gday dan,we havn't been immature with namecalling and the like just thorough with our takes on my career.
Dave,Play your violin to someone else,i'm over it!
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Me too.
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Well we will see where you get,and we'll see where I get!
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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Definitely
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Good !Now I hope whoever bothered to read this pathetic public conversation can see the logic of my brother who,just as easily could have picked up the phone.And I've got a recording of the radio interview mate at no time do I mention you as a negative only that i'm persuing other avenues.If you want to hear it give me a fcuk'n call,we'll get together and listen to it,problem solved.
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As Dan h says, you do your thing I'll do my thing .You interpret what you said your way ,I'll interpret what you said my way. Leave it like that unless your the one that wants to keep it going on the computer.
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Re: Sweet Science: Yannick, Dawson, Kirby, McGowan, McCormick

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