Clev has almost said as muchCoco wrote:Thats his trade but lost his job and has been unemployed for a year or so, bit down on his luck lost his house etc living in Cardiff now and is helping to run an amateur club. He is pretty much blind in that eye.
Hasn't got a good word to say about the Calzaghe's. He got Enzo little cash jobs singing in restaurants back in those days when Cal snr didn't have two pennies to rub together, but that was soon forgotten when Mark lost his license.
Feels he was unprepared getting chucked into an 8 rounder vs Woods, and feels he was good enough to get title fights at light fly.
Always complained he was ignored in the gym as everything was geared towards Joe.
He also thinks that the local talent were just used as unpaid sparring partners and have been blindly loyal to Enzo, leaving themselves skint while the Cals counted the cash, he accused Enzo of being a terrible tightwad.
Boxers who show promise and then suddenly dont box again?
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mickey1975
- Heavyweight

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what ever happend to the classy l.welter ricardo lopez??
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There was a the miniumweight guy about 7 a half stone who retired after about 50 fights unbeaten but don't remember a light welter???hurlock wrote:what ever happend to the classy l.welter ricardo lopez??
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ricardo williams i think
lopez was a ledge :!: ![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
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Sorry to pick you up on your mistake but somebody would have done it anyway. Why did Ricardo Lopez retire anyway? Did he just get bored?
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reggaereggae
- Heavyweight

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I think he just picked the right time, he'd already shown signs of decline, was knocking on and was short of big fights. Plus he went out on a win etc.yid14 wrote:Sorry to pick you up on your mistake but somebody would have done it anyway. Why did Ricardo Lopez retire anyway? Did he just get bored?
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Well I think it's obvious why these two retired though.reggaereggae wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Danny Costello
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Benny May
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Didn't he draw with another unbeaten champ aswell I seem to remember and it was quite a fortunate draw (in his favour)orbtastic wrote:I think he just picked the right time, he'd already shown signs of decline, was knocking on and was short of big fights. Plus he went out on a win etc.yid14 wrote:Sorry to pick you up on your mistake but somebody would have done it anyway. Why did Ricardo Lopez retire anyway? Did he just get bored?
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Black Sam Bellamy
- Heavyweight

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Kallum De’Ath (Manchester). Good amatuer, a few fights in the pros and gone. I think Arnie might have trained him ?
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Rosendo Alvarez, he was pretty good but a big old lump for straw and just kept coming forward with hurtful punches. From memory Lopez was cut over both eyes and a bit bust up and it went to the cards. They had a rematch and without checking, it was another close run thing and Rosendo had weight issues (can't remember the exact details but think Alvarez was way over the straw limit) and both moved up in weight right after.yid14 wrote:Didn't he draw with another unbeaten champ aswell I seem to remember and it was quite a fortunate draw (in his favour)orbtastic wrote:I think he just picked the right time, he'd already shown signs of decline, was knocking on and was short of big fights. Plus he went out on a win etc.yid14 wrote:Sorry to pick you up on your mistake but somebody would have done it anyway. Why did Ricardo Lopez retire anyway? Did he just get bored?
Both were quality fights, both very good fighters, Lopez the more technical.
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I just looked up his incredible record 52 fights unbeaten with just that one draw, 26 title fights, over 3 weights. but your right he'd seemed to of had enough at the end only 5 fights in over 4 years. What a great record though - a Boxrec users wet dreamorbtastic wrote:Rosendo Alvarez, he was pretty good but a big old lump for straw and just kept coming forward with hurtful punches. From memory Lopez was cut over both eyes and a bit bust up and it went to the cards. They had a rematch and without checking, it was another close run thing and Rosendo had weight issues (can't remember the exact details but think Alvarez was way over the straw limit) and both moved up in weight right after.yid14 wrote:Didn't he draw with another unbeaten champ aswell I seem to remember and it was quite a fortunate draw (in his favour)orbtastic wrote: I think he just picked the right time, he'd already shown signs of decline, was knocking on and was short of big fights. Plus he went out on a win etc.
Both were quality fights, both very good fighters, Lopez the more technical.
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Yeah, definitely...he was the real deal though, great to watch but just hampered in getting big big fights and money by being tiny.
He benefitted from being on some huge DK cards and got some much deserved exposure in the US.
He benefitted from being on some huge DK cards and got some much deserved exposure in the US.
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roadrunner
- Cruiserweight
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THINK IT WAS DANNY REYNOLDS WHO WON IN THE 1ST ROUND AGAINST JASON RUSHTON. DISAPPEARED OVER A YEAR AGO
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Arnie
- Heavyweight

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Kal was very good no dedication at all though :(Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Kallum De’Ath (Manchester). Good amatuer, a few fights in the pros and gone. I think Arnie might have trained him ?
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Old bones Ian
- Heavyweight

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the american light welter? i met him at the olympics in Sydney, was really nice to chat to, said he was going pro after the games , won a silver. He got paid a big signing on bonus when going pro, blew it . Then decided to deal in coke, by sending it via Fed-ex!!hurlock wrote:ricardo williams i thinklopez was a ledge :!:
How surprising this idea got him 3 years inside. had a few comeback fights, but not heard anything in a while
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oliverfennell
- Heavyweight

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Francisco Bojado.
Jemal Hinton.
Domestically, Danny Watts.
Jemal Hinton.
Domestically, Danny Watts.
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TerribleTerry
- Heavyweight

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There are vids on YouTube of a hog-fat Panchito blasting around town on his sports motorbike.oliverfennell wrote:Francisco Bojado.
He trained for a bit with some ufc fighters but really lost his way as a pro boxer after being massively hyped after turning pro.
He had a great style and heavy hands but couldn't dedicate himself and I think the pressure got to him.
Shame
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There was a documentary about Benny May when he was still amateur. I think he was better suited to the amateur game; he seemed a very nice kid in the program.
Jemal Hinton retired for religious reasons when he was nearing a World Title shot.
Jemal Hinton retired for religious reasons when he was nearing a World Title shot.
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Andrew Mclean.
He won the ABA title and then turned pro winning 4 bouts and then I heard it turned back to the amateur game.
He won the ABA title and then turned pro winning 4 bouts and then I heard it turned back to the amateur game.
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There was a kid who showed tremendous promise in the amas and was very popular, can't for the life of me remember his name but he was latched onto very quickly by Manny Steward and groomed for big things but he liked a drink too much, even at an early age and drifted away from the sport and eventually died.
Bernard Mayes?
Bernard Mayes?
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Maguire's contracted to Hayemaker (unless it has run out, I think he signed a three year deal though?) and Arnie can only train F.rank W.arren fighters.jessi wrote:michael maguire for me was the best prospect out there, would love to see him training at arnies gym !
can frankie gavin get in touch with him and convince him back please.
Shame, Maguire was a great talent, but next to no dedication.
And going by the sounds of the Kallum De'Ath episode, Arnie doesn't accept slackers
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Martin Harley was a very good amateur; I don't think he ever turned professional. He pushed 'Blue Boy' Gallagher close but got his nose busted badly. The ref said he'd never seen a nose bleed like it. Harley didn't complain at all; he must've been a very tough lad.
Guy Wild was a top class amateur who didn't box professionally; he would've done well.
Guy Wild was a top class amateur who didn't box professionally; he would've done well.
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Mickey Driscoll was in one of my favourite fights (v Ross Hale); he had just about everything and I was disappointed that he didn't box again. The top men at light welter were passing the title around between them at that time. Driscoll would have at the very least held his own against Andy Holligan and 'Scrap Iron' Ryan (another of my favourites). I'm not sure he'd have won them all but he would have given it a proper go; Mickey Driscoll had bottle to burn. ![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
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reggaereggae
- Heavyweight

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Can you expand? I think May went to prison, Costello I thought it was drugs?yid14 wrote:Well I think it's obvious why these two retired though.reggaereggae wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Danny Costello
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Benny May