Becoming a Cutsman....

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Good with cuts is a must :D
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If you are not composed, then what chance have you of reassuring a sliced up boxer during a fight?
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Not talking from personal experience, just a viewing experience. But a good cutsman is the difference between a winning & loosing.
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Not that complicated

Firstly go along to a boxing club and offer your services
Apply to the BBBoC for your cornerman laminate
Go on the course and pass
Get all the knowledge you can of steming cuts
Help out in the corner as offen as you can once you get your laminate (offer to be the house cornerman at local venues)

Hope this helps
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I've treated cuts and I think a lot of the super cuts man theory is over-rated. You need someone reliable but other then that how hard can it be to apply vas and adrenalin to the right place at the right time?

Of course respect to the likes of Benny King and Mick Williamson. A reliable extra pair of hands.
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there is certainly a knack to it jeff. we can all paint but not to a great standard.
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hurlock wrote:there is certainly a knack to it jeff. we can all paint but not to a great standard.
Granted, but just can't see how you get it wrong unless your like Barreras team against Khan
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klitschko's guy in the lewis fight :oo he worsend it & looked like he helped in tearing it open more as physically pulled it apart like a vagine :lol:

id think it would be important to apply great pressure with a swab with adrenalin on & make sure the corner dont poor water near it & lump on the vas last second.

damian kelly's cut's used to be gross :!:
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Jeff Thomas wrote:I've treated cuts and I think a lot of the super cuts man theory is over-rated. You need someone reliable but other then that how hard can it be to apply vas and adrenalin to the right place at the right time?

Of course respect to the likes of Benny King and Mick Williamson. A reliable extra pair of hands.
Sorry Jeff but I have to disagree with you, a GOOD cuts man is worth his weight in gold. It is a craft and the best in the Country are very sort after.
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taffytoon wrote:Not that complicated

Firstly go along to a boxing club and offer your services
Apply to the BBBoC for your cornerman laminate
Go on the course and pass
Get all the knowledge you can of steming cuts
Help out in the corner as offen as you can once you get your laminate (offer to be the house cornerman at local venues)

Hope this helps
& pass an aid's test :DDD
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Jacob Duran works for the Klits, as well as many UFC fighters. I wonder what his rates are, anybody know what an elite cut-man takes home?
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carlbcfc wrote:Jacob Duran works for the Klits, as well as many UFC fighters. I wonder what his rates are, anybody know what an elite cut-man takes home?
card girl????
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hurlock wrote:
carlbcfc wrote:Jacob Duran works for the Klits, as well as many UFC fighters. I wonder what his rates are, anybody know what an elite cut-man takes home?
card girl????
haha Good one. Probably right too.




I am having visions of him working on their er...gash! :D
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i'll employ you
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taffytoon wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:I've treated cuts and I think a lot of the super cuts man theory is over-rated. You need someone reliable but other then that how hard can it be to apply vas and adrenalin to the right place at the right time?

Of course respect to the likes of Benny King and Mick Williamson. A reliable extra pair of hands.
Sorry Jeff but I have to disagree with you, a GOOD cuts man is worth his weight in gold. It is a craft and the best in the Country are very sort after.
If a fighter gets cut say in a title fight, the cutman becomes the most important person in the corner ahead of the head trainer
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Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:
Adam1991 wrote:i'll employ you
Cheers mate. When can i start??? :OhYes:
december 3rd in blackpool, see yah there :wink:
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How much does a cutman make then ?Say working the corner of a brit title fight or a reguler ten rounder
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I am told there is a cutman that takes £50 a fight. Considering he works nearly every corner on fight night he must take home a fair bit of wedge!!
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Best way to pick up experience is to take advantage of the slack mma rules- a lot of fighters end up damaged and cut! It's great practise away from the glaring ring lights and on looking board officials - done a great job on a couple of cuts now! No expert buts it's not rocket science.
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Cardiff Lad, if you are serious pm me where you are and I will put you in touch with some very good cornermen who you can have a chat to. Most amateur clubs in Wales have a few Pro boxers at the gym but it does depend where you will travel to. I know a lot of trainers in the Valleys that would help out.
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Jeff Thomas wrote:I've treated cuts and I think a lot of the super cuts man theory is over-rated. You need someone reliable but other then that how hard can it be to apply vas and adrenalin to the right place at the right time?
I've seen some fights and cringed when i've seen the cutsman applying the vaseline. Some of the them are god awful. I'm not being funny, but a lot of these guy's tend to be a bit long in the tooth and don't even have steady hands. I see fingers going straight into the cut. :KO: Really the finger should glide across the cut when applying the vaseline. Sticking a fecking cotton bud right into it can't be that pleasant either.
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It'd take ages to get to a decent level. 1st you need to get licenced. Then you need the corner experience. You can't just climb in and do it.
I've worked a few corners with Benny King, the man's a genius but he's also been doing it for a long long time.
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I'd have thought some medical training into the anatomy of the muscles around the eye might be good.
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Like a lot of things in boxing- it seems the masters don't like sharing their thoughts
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Its not just about cuts, swelling and how to use an enswell properly. Some i've seen try and push the swelling away, not adviseable.
reconising a broken nose compared to a heavy nosebleed. How would you deal with a heavy nosebleed?
Would you know a broken jaw, and what happens if you think you can't deal with a cut. How does the cornerman want to be told any bad info.
Always do some homework on the boxer your working with, where have they had cuts before? injuries?
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