THEHAMMER321 wrote: I just turned it on, my dad used to talk about John Garfield, he had the reputation for nailing all the broads in hollywood, I'm jealous.
Remember John Garfield portraying a boxer in "Body and Soul"?
Rick never saw the
original, saw the remake made about 1979 with Jane Kennedy and her husband,it wasn't very good.
Panzerfaust wrote:Frank, you posted a brewery pic a couple of hours ago on Fb that really struck a nerve with me.
My father and all my uncles were brewery workers for large parts of their lives , they grew up next to the Ringnes brewery in Oslo , in what used to be a workingclass neighbourhood.
In 2001 foreign investors bought the brewery and moved the production so they tore down the old brick monster and built a cinema and cafe's in glass and polished crome. But they left a small part of the brewery standing. I go by there almost everyday and it makes me a bit melancholic when i think of all the men who walked through those old gates everyday. So much history. A landmark gone
Remy . . . You've been to Wildcard Gym, and saw all of the flags that hang on the walls. Flags of countries around the world.
Freddie was asked on YouTube about the flags, where they came from. He said, people bring them in and I put them up. When you come for the CBHOF event, you should make sure he was Norway on the wall.
Chucho Castillo 118lbs beat Rogelio Lara 118lbs by UD in round 12 of 12
Forum, Inglewood, California, USA
Referee: Larry Rozadilla 8-4
Judge: George Latka 6-4
Judge: Lee Grossman 6-5
Vacant NABF Bantamweight Title
"Mexico City's Chucho Castillo boxed his way into a probable third try at the world bantamweight championship Friday night when he outpointed fellow countryman Rogelio Lara in a 12 round fight at the Forum. Castillo was hard put against the 22 year old Lara but scored solidly in the 11th round after holding a slight advantage." -Associated Press
Rick Farris wrote:Chucho Castillo vs. Rogelio Lara - 8/14/70
Chucho Castillo 118lbs beat Rogelio Lara 118lbs by UD in round 12 of 12
Forum, Inglewood, California, USA
Referee: Larry Rozadilla 8-4
Judge: George Latka 6-4
Judge: Lee Grossman 6-5
Vacant NABF Bantamweight Title
"Mexico City's Chucho Castillo boxed his way into a probable third try at the world bantamweight championship Friday night when he outpointed fellow countryman Rogelio Lara in a 12 round fight at the Forum. Castillo was hard put against the 22 year old Lara but scored solidly in the 11th round after holding a slight advantage." -Associated Press
**Inaugural NABF bantamweight title fight.
Rick, check out the report on the Rogelio Lara-Julio Guerrero fight. It sounds like one helluva knock down-drag out affair. Guerrero, from this fight and others, sounds like a bantamweight version of Bob Satterfield. One helluva banger but not too sturdy in the chin dept.
Panzerfaust wrote:Frank, you posted a brewery pic a couple of hours ago on Fb that really struck a nerve with me.
My father and all my uncles were brewery workers for large parts of their lives , they grew up next to the Ringnes brewery in Oslo , in what used to be a workingclass neighbourhood.
In 2001 foreign investors bought the brewery and moved the production so they tore down the old brick monster and built a cinema and cafe's in glass and polished crome. But they left a small part of the brewery standing. I go by there almost everyday and it makes me a bit melancholic when i think of all the men who walked through those old gates everyday. So much history. A landmark gone
Ram, I love those old buildings. There's one in City of Commerce, just of the 5, the U.S Royal Tire building, looks like an old English castle, can't find a pic of it on the web, if I'm up to it I'll take a drive over there and shoot a pic to post. My uncle Magdaleno worked there right after he came back from the big war.
Frank you answered my question and I never even asked you what it was, lately I have been trying to find out who are some of the oldest living fighters, yesterday I looked up Jimmy Bivins who at 90 is the oldest living fighter I have found so far, well today I was looking up Albert ''Turkey'' Thompson and I ended up on an old blog on cyber zone and Dongee Hap Navarro was talking about him, then I scrolled down and you answered he died some years ago so thanks Frank for answering my question.
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank you answered my question and I never even asked you what it was, lately I have been trying to find out who are some of the oldest living fighters, yesterday I looked up Jimmy Bivins who at 90 is the oldest living fighter I have found so far, well today I was looking up Albert ''Turkey'' Thompson and I ended up on an old blog on cyber zone and Dongee Hap Navarro was talking about him, then I scrolled down and you answered he died some years ago so thanks Frank for answering my question.
Yes, Paul, he died some years ago. It was sad that when he was inducted into the CBHOF no next of kin could be found to accept his awards....
Over here in the UK Terry Downes is our oldest living world champion at 74 years, He's had a few health problems but still gets about to the ex boxers meetings
Panzerfaust wrote:Frank, you posted a brewery pic a couple of hours ago on Fb that really struck a nerve with me.
My father and all my uncles were brewery workers for large parts of their lives , they grew up next to the Ringnes brewery in Oslo , in what used to be a workingclass neighbourhood.
In 2001 foreign investors bought the brewery and moved the production so they tore down the old brick monster and built a cinema and cafe's in glass and polished crome. But they left a small part of the brewery standing. I go by there almost everyday and it makes me a bit melancholic when i think of all the men who walked through those old gates everyday. So much history. A landmark gone
Ram, I love those old buildings. There's one in City of Commerce, just of the 5, the U.S Royal Tire building, looks like an old English castle, can't find a pic of it on the web, if I'm up to it I'll take a drive over there and shoot a pic to post. My uncle Magdaleno worked there right after he came back from the big war.
When boxing superstar Sugar Shane Mosley takes his seat at L.A. LIVE’s Club Nokia for the October 28 edition of “Fight Night Club” it won’t be just as a fan, but also as a father, as his son Shane Mosley Jr. will be competing that night in an amateur bout on the card headlined by undefeated Gary Russell Jr.’s bout against Guadalupe De Leon. The 19-year-old Mosley will compete in a junior middleweight fight. “I’m very proud of Shane Jr. and I know all the hard work he’s been putting into his boxing career,” said Mosley Sr. “This is a tough sport, but he’s got the heart, determination and talent to make it.”
When boxing superstar Sugar Shane Mosley takes his seat at L.A. LIVE’s Club Nokia for the October 28 edition of “Fight Night Club” it won’t be just as a fan, but also as a father, as his son Shane Mosley Jr. will be competing that night in an amateur bout on the card headlined by undefeated Gary Russell Jr.’s bout against Guadalupe De Leon. The 19-year-old Mosley will compete in a junior middleweight fight. “I’m very proud of Shane Jr. and I know all the hard work he’s been putting into his boxing career,” said Mosley Sr. “This is a tough sport, but he’s got the heart, determination and talent to make it.”
Keep us up to date with his progress Rick, If he has half the moves of his dad he will be one to watch
When boxing superstar Sugar Shane Mosley takes his seat at L.A. LIVE’s Club Nokia for the October 28 edition of “Fight Night Club” it won’t be just as a fan, but also as a father, as his son Shane Mosley Jr. will be competing that night in an amateur bout on the card headlined by undefeated Gary Russell Jr.’s bout against Guadalupe De Leon. The 19-year-old Mosley will compete in a junior middleweight fight. “I’m very proud of Shane Jr. and I know all the hard work he’s been putting into his boxing career,” said Mosley Sr. “This is a tough sport, but he’s got the heart, determination and talent to make it.”
Rick- You mention in the above, that Shane Mosley debuts as a amateur that night on a pro card featuring Gary Russell Jr. They mix Amateur fights in with pro fights on the same card in Cal.? The reason I mention it is because that same situation does not exist here in New York.
Amateur cards are separate from pro cards here. They are both run by different orgs.
If you dont mind me asking, How long has CA. been doing that ? Do you or Frank see any kind of adverse reaction to it on those nights ? Or is it possible, that because it is Shane's son fighting this is a special one-time thing because of its unique popularity.? Thanks guys.
When boxing superstar Sugar Shane Mosley takes his seat at L.A. LIVE’s Club Nokia for the October 28 edition of “Fight Night Club” it won’t be just as a fan, but also as a father, as his son Shane Mosley Jr. will be competing that night in an amateur bout on the card headlined by undefeated Gary Russell Jr.’s bout against Guadalupe De Leon. The 19-year-old Mosley will compete in a junior middleweight fight. “I’m very proud of Shane Jr. and I know all the hard work he’s been putting into his boxing career,” said Mosley Sr. “This is a tough sport, but he’s got the heart, determination and talent to make it.”
Rick- You mention in the above, that Shane Mosley debuts as a amateur that night on a pro card featuring Gary Russell Jr. They mix Amateur fights in with pro fights on the same card in Cal.? The reason I mention it is because that same situation does not exist here in New York.
Amateur cards are separate from pro cards here. They are both run by different orgs.
If you dont mind me asking, How long has CA. been doing that ? Do you or Frank see any kind of adverse reaction to it on those nights ? Or is it possible, that because it is Shane's son fighting this is a special one-time thing because of its unique popularity.? Thanks guys.
Charlie...I remember the weekly am/pro cards in the early '70's at the Olympic. My son Tony fought as an amateur on one of Frankie's main event cards, he ko John Montes with the first punch he threw, about 20 seconds into the first round. In the late '70's I became the amateur matchmaker at the Olympic. I liked it, the AAU didn't.
The am/pro cards at the Olympic continued well into the '80's. Rogelio Robles who took over from Aileen Eaton as promoter when Aileen retired circa 1980 continued with the program. Don Chargin continued as pro matchmaker and I as amateur matchmaker.. It was fun making those amateur bouts, arguing with the trainers, but; then I was used to it from the Jr's....
When boxing superstar Sugar Shane Mosley takes his seat at L.A. LIVE’s Club Nokia for the October 28 edition of “Fight Night Club” it won’t be just as a fan, but also as a father, as his son Shane Mosley Jr. will be competing that night in an amateur bout on the card headlined by undefeated Gary Russell Jr.’s bout against Guadalupe De Leon. The 19-year-old Mosley will compete in a junior middleweight fight. “I’m very proud of Shane Jr. and I know all the hard work he’s been putting into his boxing career,” said Mosley Sr. “This is a tough sport, but he’s got the heart, determination and talent to make it.”
Rick- You mention in the above, that Shane Mosley debuts as a amateur that night on a pro card featuring Gary Russell Jr. They mix Amateur fights in with pro fights on the same card in Cal.? The reason I mention it is because that same situation does not exist here in New York.
Amateur cards are separate from pro cards here. They are both run by different orgs.
If you dont mind me asking, How long has CA. been doing that ? Do you or Frank see any kind of adverse reaction to it on those nights ? Or is it possible, that because it is Shane's son fighting this is a special one-time thing because of its unique popularity.? Thanks guys.
Charlie...I remember the weekly am/pro cards in the early '70's at the Olympic. My son Tony fought as an amateur on one of Frankie's main event cards, he ko John Montes with the first punch he threw, about 20 seconds into the first round. In the late '70's I became the amateur matchmaker at the Olympic. I liked it, the AAU didn't.
The am/pro cards at the Olympic continued well into the '80's. Rogelio Robles who took over from Aileen Eaton as promoter when Aileen retired circa 1980 continued with the program. Don Chargin continued as pro matchmaker and I as amateur matchmaker.. It was fun making those amateur bouts, arguing with the trainers, but; then I was used to it from the Jr's....
In 1969 I fought on a few of the thursday night pro cards from the Olympic as well. We, the boxers, loved it. In the beginning the amateur bouts were televised between 8-8:30pm, with the pro card going from 8:30-10pm. IT developed a lot of great pro attractions including Armando Muniz & Jimmy Robertson. The AAU was pressuring Aileen Eaton to kick back the corrupt amateur organization $1000 per show that included amateur bouts. Aileen said No. So to prevent amateurs from participating, Los Angeles lost it's AAU/Golden Gloves sanction. We chose to fight for the Olympic Club anyway. Thus happened in 1970, and we had no Golden Gloves in L.A. that year. We, the boxers, fought in another tourney, with the winners going to compete in the Nevada Golden Gloves. We whipped most of the Nevada amateurs in the GG's eliminations and Las Vegas sent a team to the Nationals loaded with L.A.'s best. This was in 1970.
Legendary Criminal Defense Lawyer Paul Caruso Dies at 81
By KENNETH OFGANG, Staff Writer/Appellate Courts
Paul Caruso, one of the best known attorneys in Los Angeles, has died.
Caruso, who was 81, died Tuesday night of natural causes after leading “a full, rich life,” his son, attorney P. Carey Caruso, said yesterday.
The senior Caruso had been in ill health for several months. He retired from full-time law practice in 1997 after a colorful career that lasted more than four decades.
“Heaven is better off and the world has sustained a great loss,” former Italian-American Lawyers Association President August “Gene” Carloni said. “He was a legend as a Marine, as a family man, as an attorney; a principled and charitable man.”
Funeral services will be private, Carey Caruso said, but a memorial open to the public will be held at Casa Italiana, 1051 N. Broadway, from 4 to 6 p.m. on Sunday.
Veteran’s Waiver
Paul Caruso was admitted to practice in August 1953 following graduation from Washington, D.C.’s Columbus University School of Law, now the Columbus School of Law of Catholic University of America. He didn’t have to take the bar exam, his son recalled, being one of the last California lawyers to avail himself of the veteran’s waiver that was available in those days.
He began his legal education at what is now Loyola Law School, but enrolled at Columbus after rejoining the U.S. Marine Corps, in which he had served during World War II.
He retired from service with the rank of major. Caruso became well-known, early on in practice, for his representation of well-known sports and entertainment figures, a number of whom became close friends. He named his first son after the late “Days of Our Lives” star MacDonald Carey, a Marine buddy.
His first high-visibility client, Carey Caruso noted, was Art Aragon, a professional boxer who was one of the area’s most prominent sports figures in the days before the Dodgers, Angels, Lakers and Kings came to town. Caruso not only provided “The Golden Boy,” as Aragon was dubbed, with legal services, he managed his career, Carey Caruso said.
Before O.J. Simpson, Aragon—later a Van Nuys bail bondsman—was the highest-profile local athlete charged with a serious crime. He was accused of fixing a fight.
Television Cameras
There were “20 television cameras and about 50 members of the press” waiting for Caruso when he first went to the Hall of Justice to discuss the case with then-District Attorney William McKesson, he recalled in a MetNews interview four years ago.
Aragon was convicted, and Caruso was crushed, his son recalled. But his spirits were boosted by a phone call from legendary criminal defense lawyer Jerry Giesler, Carey Caruso recalled, who encouraged him to continue “the good fight.”
Caruso—who later won the Criminal Courts Bar Association award named for Giesler after winning four murder cases in a year—did continue to fight, and won a reversal. The Court of Appeal ruled that Aragon didn’t get a fair trial, citing among other things Judge Herbert V. Walker’s interference with Caruso’s cross-examination and his “statements to Aragon’s counsel which verged on ridicule and which strongly indicated his leaning in favor of the prosecution.”
Aragon was not retried.
Caruso later represented war hero and actor Audie Murphy on a charge of trying to kill a Burbank dog trainer whom Murphy claimed brutalized the dog and made advances towards Murphy’s girlfriend. Caruso persuaded the jury that Murphy, credited with killing 282 German soldiers in one day, couldn’t have possibly fired four times at the alleged victim and missed.
Other famous Caruso clients included actors James Mason, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Jane Russell, Brenda Vaccaro, and Kirk and Michael Douglas, and pro football players Bob Waterfield, Vince Ferragamo, and Elroy “Crazy Legs” Hirsch.
Many of those clients became family friends, and several came to live at Caruso’s home for various periods of time. They gave his five children “a better education than they ever got in school,” Caruso once said.
One of those houseguests, he recalled, was running back Cookie Gilchrist, a star of the old American Football League, who stayed at the Caruso home for awhile after retiring from the sport and after Hall of Famer Jim Brown “threw him through a glass window” after an argument.
Another was Leona Gage, who was stripped of the Miss America title when it was discovered she had been married and had children. But Caruso kicked her out of the house, he once told an interviewer, after he found she’d had an overnight male visitor.
Caruso received entreaties from publishers interested in writing a book on his career, his son said. But they all backed off when he made clear he wasn’t going to spill any secrets about his clients, living or dead.
“He didn’t believe the privilege died with the client,” Carey Caruso commented. “The privilege died with him, last night.”
Paul Caruso’s legend wasn’t built “on legal acumen,” his son said, but on personality. People were naturally drawn to him, and vice-versa, his son and other lawyers said.
In an era that many lawyers said was less contentious in terms of the relations between defense lawyers and prosecutors, he was respected on both sides of the courtroom.
“Paul Caruso was one of the great gentlemen in the law,” Richard Hirsch, a prosecutor when he first met Caruso and now a leading defense lawyer, said. “He was the kind of person you could trust,” even as an adversary, Hirsch commented.
He had a knack for persuading juries, prominent criminal defense attorney Harland Braun, once a Caruso law clerk and later a prosecutor, said. Caruso, he commented, was “an intense litigator” with “an incredible ability to marshal facts.”
Another ex-Caruso-clerk who went on to achieve prominence as a trial lawyer, Larry Feldman, said his onetime mentor “was inspirational.” Caruso, he said, “loved being a lawyer, and loved relating to juries.”
He was also good to the people who worked for him, Feldman said.
“He made you feel like an important part of his family,” the attorney remarked. “He was one of the most gracious people I ever met.”
Torrance attorney Michael Pontrelli, the first president of IALA and a friend for 40 years, called Caruso “the most unique person you’d want to meet, both personally and professionally” as well as “one of the most important lawyers in Los Angeles in the last 40 years.”
IALA past president Phil Bartenetti called Caruso “the heart and soul” of the organization, whose first meeting was held in Caruso’s home. He recalled being amazed by the array of media personalities and athletes Caruso represented, many of whom found themselves in court testifying as character witnesses for other Caruso clients.
That tactic worked for Caruso, Bartenetti said, recalling how Caruso persuaded a federal judge to give ex-New York Yankee Gerry Priddy a suspended sentence for trying to hijack a steamship. Several witnesses, including popular local broadcaster Dick Whittinghill, told the judge about what a good person Priddy was and how personal hardships had affected him, Bartenetti remembered.
Whittinghill was only one of several members of the media Caruso represented, and he freely acknowledged that he discounted his fees for them. Long before lawyers were allowed to advertise, television and radio commentator Tom Duggan was constantly referring on the air to “my attorney, Paul Caruso.”
Caruso is survived by his second wife, Gloria Caruso, and by five children from his first marriage. His first wife, Lucille Caruso, died in 1980.
Besides Carey Caruso, he is survived by two sons—Deputy Alternate Public Defender Vito Caruso and businessman Douglas Caruso—and two daughters, Lucy Ball, the wife of attorney James Ball, and Gina Jobling, who is married to attorney Thomas Jobling.
The family asked that memorial donations be made to Viking Charities, 425 S. Beverly Drive, Beverly Hills 90212, or to the Italian-American Lawyers Association, 5455 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 1706, Los Angeles 90036.
I rarely stray from this thread but I saw one that asked, "How would you advise a heavyweight challenger to beat Vitali Klitschko.
Since they asked, I answered . . .
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I'd tell him to go out and make the robotic Eastern European a "Landowner".
In other words, give him a couple of achers!
Go in low, and fast, side-to-side, until your close enough to dig a solid uppercut into Vitali's balls.
He'll drop to the canvas clutching his crotch, crying in pain. The crowd will boo, because you'll be fighting in his home town. :x
You'll be penalized, and Vitali will get a rest. He'll be mad, but he'll also be partially disabled.
He'll have a hard time getting his guilded body in sinc with a mind that is focused on pain.
The Klitschko boys don't deal well with pain. The moment the fight resumes, jump on him.
Anybody can move forward faster than a lumbering oaf can move backwards. Work the body, and up to the head.
Be in shape to go for broke. Once you break one of the Lurch brothers in a match, they cannot be fixed.
If anybody in the world had any skill today, just a little, neither of the K boys would hold a title.
Since nobody seems to have any talent, they will have to resort to some unorthodox tactics to win.
During the riot that broke out at the Forum in 1968, after the Lionel Rose-Chucho Castillo bantam title fight, the rowdy crowd vandalized a number of cars, tipping over Caruso's Cadillac.
Rick Farris wrote:I rarely stray from this thread but I saw one that asked, "How would you advise a heavyweight challenger to beat Vitali Klitschko.
Since they asked, I answered . . .
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I'd tell him to go out and make the robotic Eastern European a "Landowner".
In other words, give him a couple of achers!
Go in low, and fast, side-to-side, until your close enough to dig a solid uppercut into Vitali's balls.
He'll drop to the canvas clutching his crotch, crying in pain. The crowd will boo, because you'll be fighting in his home town. :x
You'll be penalized, and Vitali will get a rest. He'll be mad, but he'll also be partially disabled.
He'll have a hard time getting his guilded body in sinc with a mind that is focused on pain.
The Klitschko boys don't deal well with pain. The moment the fight resumes, jump on him.
Anybody can move forward faster than a lumbering oaf can move backwards. Work the body, and up to the head.
Be in shape to go for broke. Once you break one of the Lurch brothers in a match, they cannot be fixed.
If anybody in the world had any skill today, just a little, neither of the K boys would hold a title.
Since nobody seems to have any talent, they will have to resort to some unorthodox tactics to win.
Just my opinion.
If they could dig up Frankie Brown the ref who handled the Marciarno v Cockell fight you would probably get away with those tactics
I have a great article about and with Fritzie Zivic called: ''you gotta fight dirty'' . Im not sure how to share it though :(
If anyone know how let me know
Panzerfaust wrote:I have a great article about and with Fritzie Zivic called: ''you gotta fight dirty'' . Im not sure how to share it though :(
If anyone know how let me know
