warmachine wrote:Bigmark Yeah everyone forgets that Audley does have skills and when fired up can produce like the second Danny williams fight
Lets not forget Danny Williams got that fight at a weeks notice.
very true but Williams went at Harrison forcing him to fight. I'm not saying Audley will win and he is this all destorying boxing machine but i will say he has a chance for the reasons stated already in this thread.
I will be buying the fight, i am a boxing whore
I agree he has the chance in the sense....everybody had a chance. If I played Federer at Tennis I would have a shot. Honeslty don't think I am over playing it, thats how one sided I see this fight.
If this was 4x2 minute rounds with head gear I would be on Audley, but the guy is just not a good profesional boxer.
ed robinson wrote:I understand what you're saying Rob but if Audley doesn't back up his talk - Haye will probably just smash through him. Either outcome should be compulsive viewing. We make predictions now on the show and I'll almost certainly still go for Haye but there is definitely an argument for Harrison.
When has Audley ever backed up his talk? Has he ever beaten anyone ranked in the top 25 at Heavyweight??
I understand why the fight is happening, what I don't need is Sky TV and Hayemaker promotions insulting my intelligence by making out its a competative fight because it isn't. You can bring up all the boxing upsets like Buster Douglas vs Tyson but that only highlights how uncompetative the fight trully is.
robpalmer135 wrote:[
I understand why the fight is happening, what I don't need is Sky TV and Hayemaker promotions insulting my intelligence by making out its a competative fight because it isn't. You can bring up all the boxing upsets like Buster Douglas vs Tyson but that only highlights how uncompetative the fight trully is.
Don't watch the bumph then mate. We all know the score; it's a gimme for Haye but in reality a banana skin of a fight.
SKY are hardly likely to run an ad that goes:
"Watch Haye vs. Harrison live on Sky Box Office!
SEE Harrison decapitated!
WATCH Haye talk about fighting both Klitschko Bros. on the same night!
GASP as Audley's head bounces into the third row!!!!
Press the heliotrope button on your SKYPLUS remote control NOW!!!!!!!!
Nota Bene: there is an outside chance that the big lump will land that left cross he's been threatening to throw for ten years & then Haye will basically be fucked. This does not effect your statutory rights."
Sadly, the hype appears to be working as even knowledgeable fans are now believing Audley has a very good shot at winning this. One good performance against a past it Danny Williams 4 years ago is certainly nothing to suggest he can take care of a prime World-Class fighter.
Audley is 39 today and people think he will suddenly turn into a fighter with confidence in the ring? Against easily the best fighter he has ever faced?
It is going to be a sad fight to watch unfortunately. Haye will finish him before the half-way point in the fight.
antcull wrote:Sadly, the hype appears to be working as even knowledgeable fans are now believing Audley has a very good shot at winning this. One good performance against a past it Danny Williams 4 years ago is certainly nothing to suggest he can take care of a prime World-Class fighter.
Audley is 39 today and people think he will suddenly turn into a fighter with confidence in the ring? Against easily the best fighter he has ever faced?
It is going to be a sad fight to watch unfortunately. Haye will finish him before the half-way point in the fight.
I'm rooting for Harrison but commonsense suggests he'll be taken out inside 3 rounds.
BIGMARK wrote:
so how do we rate Harrison's chances of winning, would it be like QPR beating Arsenal in the Cup Final or as Rob said him beating Federer at tennis Of course Rob could be Andy Murray posting under an alias.
I think Haye wins and like most in the first half of the fight but i refuse to rule out an upset as Audley could win. Lets face it on paper Haye wins but sometimes boxing has a habit of throwing the form book out the window. Wasnt Ricky Burns a bigger underdog to be Roman Martiez than Auley is to beat Haye?
Of course, you can never say never in boxing. However I believe this is as close as you can get.
I don't think Burns was a bigger underdog, maybe he was at the bookies but if you had made a poll before Burns-Martinez and asked who had the greater chance of winning, Burns or Audley I would bet most of the answers would sway towards Burns winning. At least he had shown a few dominant perfomances at domestic level and had proved himself to be in the best form of his career and at a prime age.
Audley is 39, his run of form is a quite a few seriously unimpressive performances, followed by beating a few novices in a bunch of 3 rounders and then a win over Sprott (who is basically a Euro journeyman now), coming from behind on points to land a hail mary punch. I don't see Audley and Burns as comparable challangers at all.
I'd love for Audley to win because Haye deserves it. But this is as big a mismatch we've seen for a while.
antcull wrote:Sadly, the hype appears to be working as even knowledgeable fans are now believing Audley has a very good shot at winning this. One good performance against a past it Danny Williams 4 years ago is certainly nothing to suggest he can take care of a prime World-Class fighter.
Audley is 39 today and people think he will suddenly turn into a fighter with confidence in the ring? Against easily the best fighter he has ever faced?
It is going to be a sad fight to watch unfortunately. Haye will finish him before the half-way point in the fight.
so how do we rate Harrison's chances of winning, would it be like QPR beating Arsenal in the Cup Final or as Rob said him beating Federer at tennis Of course Rob could be Andy Murray posting under an alias.
I think Haye wins and like most in the first half of the fight but i refuse to rule out an upset as Audley could win. Lets face it on paper Haye wins but sometimes boxing has a habit of throwing the form book out the window. Wasnt Ricky Burns a bigger underdog to be Roman Martiez than Auley is to beat Haye?
If Audley beat Haye I would have it as the biggest upset in world boxing since I started following the sport (to be fair thats only 6 years ago)
robpalmer135 wrote:
If I played Federer at Tennis I would have a shot.
Er, no you wouldn't.
Anyway, Aud does have a good chance in this fight, as long as he doesn't freeze - and maybe he wont here - perhaps he really thinks he's always got the edge over his much smaller "kid brother".
In fact, Haye's vunerable chin makes them both punchers in this fight. And Audley has the better chin.
Even pre the shoulder going vs Sprott, I thought Harrison was starting to look his years out there. His hand speed wasn't what it was.
I can see this fight going a few rounds actually. I for one minute do not believe Haye will go for it early (unless the hype has got to him). He said all that vs Valuev, and it didn't transpire. I maintain that Haye struggles with big guys cause he likes to fight tall himself - so I think he will look bad and try find counters but can see him getting to an increasingly tired Audley by the end (it will be close on the cards with the prefered score being 0-0).
Audley does have the power to KO Haye, and whilst his speed isn't what it was - he is still quicker than Valuev. No-one can be convinced Haye is "all that" against the big heavyweights after his Valuev performance, so I do give Audley a chance - in a styles make fight kind of way..... I don't think Audley is all of a sudden world class, far from it. Still think he loses to Martin Rogan should they rematch.
robpalmer135 wrote:
If I played Federer at Tennis I would have a shot.
Er, no you wouldn't.
Anyway, Aud does have a good chance in this fight, as long as he doesn't freeze - and maybe he wont here - perhaps we really thinks he's always got the edge over his much smaller "kid brother".
In fact, Haye's vunerable chin makes them both punchers in this fight. And Audley has the better chin.
FEDERER could retire injured, of course Rob could actually know how to play tennis, maybe he is Rafa Nadel and this is his way of telling us he thinks Audley has a chance D
Reading that little extract, I doubt that it works on the mitochondria but I can believe the nitric oxide dilating the blood vessels. but there are alot of products on the market that do that anyway so there would be no need for beetroot. has any of you guys used a nitric oxide product? I want to know if it gives the pump effect during training as i don't want that.
robpalmer135 wrote:
Lets not forget Danny Williams got that fight at a weeks notice.
very true but Williams went at Harrison forcing him to fight. I'm not saying Audley will win and he is this all destorying boxing machine but i will say he has a chance for the reasons stated already in this thread.
I will be buying the fight, i am a boxing whore
I agree he has the chance in the sense....everybody had a chance. If I played Federer at Tennis I would have a shot. Honeslty don't think I am over playing it, thats how one sided I see this fight.
If this was 4x2 minute rounds with head gear I would be on Audley, but the guy is just not a good profesional boxer.
I would pick Larry to beat Audley.
This is where you discredit yourself and make a mockery of your "ratings"
Ratings are opinion based. When the opinion is of someone who's been following boxing for 6 years only and comes out with things like the above then the ratings become hard to follow.
I've had scars from fights longer than you've been in boxing.
You were getting a first hand analysis from someone very, very knowledgeable in Ed who's been in Big Bear with Audley and you've totally dismissed it for your own opinion.
i fancey harrison if he's hole hold's out. it's all well being pumped, but once through the ropes the robe comes off & it's you & him thing's change.
look at harrison's life, he allway's suceed's in the end. he froze v danny watts in the aba final, then went on to win 3 of them.boxed pony in his run up to sydney & boottled it against samm. early on in sydney he was behind & pulled of the stoppage & got the belief & won the final easily with one hand :!:
haye has been rattled by small men like mock, twite,thompson,mormeck, barret.
i went from liking Audley, to being sick of him.....sounding off after stopping Mr Kipling's taster-in-chief who was on 3 weeks notice.....Audley had talked so much drivel and delivered rubbish that it was untrue, and he spoiled his comeback win over Williams with the never to be forgotten....."2007, World Champion, 2008, Undisputed"......the truth is I am now pretty much ambivalent to the man.
Verus Sprott he got his arse worked off him, fair do's, it emerged he was injured....It made no difference, he would still have been outworked had he been fit. The truth is also that his win over Sprott was a fluke. That should have been Audley's career as a boxer over there and then......but owing to Sprott's fatigue-inducing heroics, the poor lad left the back door open for the work-shy, gun-shy Harrison.
As somebody said above, it's icredible that people are now talking up Audley's chances of winning...i've even done it myself. And his early coolness and the ease with which he got under Haye's skin certainly helped, but the fact remains, Audley should have no, that is ZERO chance in this fight. Last week I was considering a punt on Haye to blast him out in round 1 or 2.....reading this thread your mind starts to play tricks.....I agree with the poster who said at 39 Audley won't suddenly develop an inate self cofidence and a willingness to engage.....it won't happen.....the shut out by the Taxi Driver proved that much.
I should want David Haye to win this fight because he takes risks, he goes to back gardens, he picks himself up and I DO admire him and if either of these 2 men deserve the spoils on offer it's Haye and not Harrison, but there is also a certain "cockiness" to him that I have never wholly taken to. I think this fight is a mis-match, Harrison doesn't deserve it IMO, and Haye certainly DOES deserve an payday he can muster up, and this is a brilliant one.
So I ask myself, why the fck is it that I have a little voice inside me pulling for Harrison to win.......I have no real interest in the fight, and I predict Haye to blow him away inside rounds 1-2. I guess if Harrison wins it would be sensational, unpredictable and funny as f*ck.....and who among us does not like that?
hurlock wrote:i fancey harrison if he's hole hold's out. it's all well being pumped, but once through the ropes the robe comes off & it's you & him thing's change.
look at harrison's life, he allway's suceed's in the end. he froze v danny watts in the aba final, then went on to win 3 of them.boxed pony in his run up to sydney & boottled it against samm. early on in sydney he was behind & pulled of the stoppage & got the belief & won the final easily with one hand :!:
haye has been rattled by small men like mock, twite,thompson,mormeck, barret.
hope audley humbles haye.
What about Audley's 'triumphs' over Sprott and Rogan.
BIGMARK wrote:
very true but Williams went at Harrison forcing him to fight. I'm not saying Audley will win and he is this all destorying boxing machine but i will say he has a chance for the reasons stated already in this thread.
I will be buying the fight, i am a boxing whore
I agree he has the chance in the sense....everybody had a chance. If I played Federer at Tennis I would have a shot. Honeslty don't think I am over playing it, thats how one sided I see this fight.
If this was 4x2 minute rounds with head gear I would be on Audley, but the guy is just not a good profesional boxer.
I would pick Larry to beat Audley.
This is where you discredit yourself and make a mockery of your "ratings"
Ratings are opinion based. When the opinion is of someone who's been following boxing for 6 years only and comes out with things like the above then the ratings become hard to follow.
I've had scars from fights longer than you've been in boxing.
You were getting a first hand analysis from someone very, very knowledgeable in Ed who's been in Big Bear with Audley and you've totally dismissed it for your own opinion.
so you see it as a competitive fight??
you follow me to closely Paul Smith. Just because ive only been a hardcore fan for the past 6 years doesn't mean by opinion cannot be accepted. it might even bring something different to the debate. I have still seen every single haye and harrison fight.
I rate your brother as the best prospect in the country, have done for 2 year. Is my opinion still bullshit?
Of course Rob could be Andy Murray posting under an alias. 
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