Prime Tyson vs Prime Bowe.

keithmoonhangover · Post by **keithmoonhangover** » 28 Oct 2010, 04:15

There has been a bit of discussion on other threads. Let's put it to a vote.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 28 Oct 2010, 10:35

keithmoonhangover wrote:There has been a bit of discussion on other threads. Let's put it to a vote.

Bowe had some skills well-designed to deal with Tyson, but ultimately two critical components conspire against him --- Tyson's enormous speed advantage, & Bowe's horrifically pourous defense. Combine the two, & it's Tyson for my money, in about four exciting rounds.

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 29 Oct 2010, 08:33

Bowe would have won a great fight. However, people would have said Tyson was not in his prime even if he was.

keithmoonhangover · Post by **keithmoonhangover** » 29 Oct 2010, 12:20

So far Tyson is winning 10-4.

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 29 Oct 2010, 14:51

Tyson without a doubt he thrived on bigger opponents Bowe would of been made for him

keithmoonhangover · Post by **keithmoonhangover** » 30 Oct 2010, 08:02

flatnoseflynn wrote:Tyson without a doubt he thrived on bigger opponents Bowe would of been made for him

Amen to that brother. He was made for Tyson.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 30 Oct 2010, 15:12

Didn't we have an identical thread on this just a few weeks ago?

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 30 Oct 2010, 15:14

dempseyfire wrote:Didn't we have an identical thread on this just a few weeks ago?

Yup, Mugabi wanted another one.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 30 Oct 2010, 22:58

Interestingly, I think from memory there was a consensus Bowe would win.

Here, Tyson has dominated opinions.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 30 Oct 2010, 23:06

sg1985 wrote:Tyson has a lot, but he never fought anyone as good as a prime Bowe. It's a really tough call, but I favour Bowe, I think he had enough intelligence to fight the right fight, and I have never seen anything in Tyson that suggested to me he had a back plan if plan A wasn't working.

In fairness, I've never seen anything in Bowe which suggests he was intelligent as a fighter, either (we know factually, out of the ring, the guy bordered on retardation).

Well-schooled under Futch, yes (so was Tyson with Rooney, mind), but intelligent as a boxer in his own right? I don't see it.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 31 Oct 2010, 00:23

...But still, no matter how smart he may've wanted to be, Bowe had NO DEFENSE. None.

That's a bad spell against Tyson's speed & power. Golota had height on Tyson. That's about all he had on him.

Duran Fan · Post by **Duran Fan** » 31 Oct 2010, 03:03

sg1985 wrote:Tyson has a lot, but he never fought anyone as good as a prime Bowe. It's a really tough call, but I favour Bowe, I think he had enough intelligence to fight the right fight, and I have never seen anything in Tyson that suggested to me he had a back plan if plan A wasn't working.

Ok. Fair comment.
But I know your wrong.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 31 Oct 2010, 12:53

Duran Fan wrote:
sg1985 wrote:Tyson has a lot, but he never fought anyone as good as a prime Bowe. It's a really tough call, but I favour Bowe, I think he had enough intelligence to fight the right fight, and I have never seen anything in Tyson that suggested to me he had a back plan if plan A wasn't working.
Ok. Fair comment.
But I know your wrong.

You know his what is wrong?

Duran Fan · Post by **Duran Fan** » 31 Oct 2010, 14:49

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Duran Fan wrote:
sg1985 wrote:Tyson has a lot, but he never fought anyone as good as a prime Bowe. It's a really tough call, but I favour Bowe, I think he had enough intelligence to fight the right fight, and I have never seen anything in Tyson that suggested to me he had a back plan if plan A wasn't working.
Ok. Fair comment.
But I know your wrong.

You know his what is wrong?

He is wrong to favour Bowe.
Any way that's just my opinion. So don't make a big deal out of it.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 31 Oct 2010, 15:11

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Duran Fan wrote:
sg1985 wrote:Tyson has a lot, but he never fought anyone as good as a prime Bowe. It's a really tough call, but I favour Bowe, I think he had enough intelligence to fight the right fight, and I have never seen anything in Tyson that suggested to me he had a back plan if plan A wasn't working.
Ok. Fair comment.
But I know your wrong.

You know his what is wrong?

He will never even understand what you're saying. Do yourself a favor.......

This post was made by Duran Fan who is currently on your ignore list.

But I should warn you that he will take to stalking you via pm if you ignore his posts.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 31 Oct 2010, 19:07

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Duran Fan wrote: Ok. Fair comment.
But I know your wrong.

You know his what is wrong?

He will never even understand what you're saying. Do yourself a favor.......

This post was made by Duran Fan who is currently on your ignore list.

But I should warn you that he will take to stalking you via pm if you ignore his posts.

Guess he proved your first line right with his response...

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 31 Oct 2010, 22:19

sg1985 wrote:I would love to see him prove me wrong, as he KNOWS I'm wrong, I want to see the factual evidence with credible sources, and basically anything that isn't just opinion.

Not much chance of that in a mythical match-up, heh :)

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 01 Nov 2010, 00:13

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:

You know his what is wrong?

He will never even understand what you're saying. Do yourself a favor.......

This post was made by Duran Fan who is currently on your ignore list.

But I should warn you that he will take to stalking you via pm if you ignore his posts.
Guess he proved your first line right with his response...

I got this gem this morning.

Trust me, I would of NEVER given up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would post until as long as I could.
I would even of changed to a healthier diet, to add a few more years to my life.
I am crazy, and maybe you are to. But I'm telling you!!!!
You are lucky they locked the thread.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 01 Nov 2010, 00:39

^^^

Guess who was busy sniffing glue during his formative years in school

Duran Fan · Post by **Duran Fan** » 01 Nov 2010, 01:08

sg1985 wrote:I would love to see him prove me wrong, as he KNOWS I'm wrong, I want to see the factual evidence with credible sources, and basically anything that isn't just opinion.

You just need to study the tape, and you will be able to see how Bowe would of been made for Tyson.
Key to victory for Tyson is Speed, ability to duck under the Bowe jab and rip into the body, before his left hook lands upstairs. Rinse and repeat.
When Holyfield lost to Bowe in the 1st fight, he was more or less coming in head 1st. Otherwise who has Bowe beat?
Obviously no one can know who would of won. So I should of said "think" instead... I didn't think.
Not to worry eh?

Duran Fan · Post by **Duran Fan** » 01 Nov 2010, 01:11

He will never even understand what you're saying. Do yourself a favor.......

This post was made by Duran Fan who is currently on your ignore list.

But I should warn you that he will take to stalking you via pm if you ignore his posts.[/quote]

Button it weasel. We don't need your rambling!

Darling · Post by **Darling** » 01 Nov 2010, 01:25

keithmoonhangover · Post by **keithmoonhangover** » 01 Nov 2010, 04:55

Well, this forum is filled with people that like boxing and there are some sensible boxing people on here. There are twice the amount that have voted for Tyson, than have voted for Bowe.

Tyson wins.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 02 Nov 2010, 13:58

Tyson always had a harder time with tall guys that I saw and at 6'5 Bowe is certainly a tall guy. That being said, despite the fact that Bowe was tall, he fought on the inside as if he were a much shorter. He was very good at this for a big man, but I think the fact that he favored in-fighting as opposed to properly using his height would be his undoing against a Prime Tyson. However I really don't think either man is knocking the other out here. Knockdowns can be expected though. I'm pretty sure if this fight would've happened. It would've been an absolute barnburner.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 02 Nov 2010, 14:06

He was a better infighter than Tyson. Bowe would eat him up in tight. Of that much I am certain.