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whats the benefit of putting a prospect in a 6x2 as opposed

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to a 4x3 ?

i see this on some small hall shows mostly,is it to fill the card or is there some other reason ?

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I've always thought this aswell why come out of the amateurs have a few four rounders and then go back to 6x2? Surely the natural progression is 6x3. Why is it even still allowed?
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i think it's more attractive for the journeyman tbh as the money aint there & it's short rds v a lesser opponent then they are used to.
the fighter dont benefit or develop from 2 minute rd's.
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ive always thought pro fighters boxers should fight 3 min rounds,however if the board dont allow certain boxers to do 3 min rounds thats the way its got to be.
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If a lad can't fight 4x3 as a minimum he shouldn't be fighting.
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There is little difference between a 6 2 and a 4 -3... one thing worth considering is it takes some fighters a while to settle- so in a pro debut for example it might be worth doing the six to overcome this.
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Jeff Thomas wrote:There is little difference between a 6 2 and a 4 -3... one thing worth considering is it takes some fighters a while to settle- so in a pro debut for example it might be worth doing the six to overcome this.
theres a massive difference between a 3 minute round and a 2 minute round. And you being an ex pro should certainly know that. Unfit I could last two mins.
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yid14 wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:There is little difference between a 6 2 and a 4 -3... one thing worth considering is it takes some fighters a while to settle- so in a pro debut for example it might be worth doing the six to overcome this.
theres a massive difference between a 3 minute round and a 2 minute round. And you being an ex pro should certainly know that. Unfit I could last two mins.
also jeff why did you do 2 minute rounds in you 14th & 15th fight after doing 3 minute rounds in all but one of your other fights ???????
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yid14 wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:There is little difference between a 6 2 and a 4 -3... one thing worth considering is it takes some fighters a while to settle- so in a pro debut for example it might be worth doing the six to overcome this.
theres a massive difference between a 3 minute round and a 2 minute round. And you being an ex pro should certainly know that. Unfit I could last two mins.

The problem is heart rate not duration. There is no difference- or hardly any at least for me. I prefered three's.

And i did 2 min rounds because thats what i was asked to do. :TU:
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Absolutely, Terry. You get clipped and get a flash kd scored against you in a four rounder - your in big trouble.
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Vinny Mitchell vs Deakin was the one that sprung to mind in recent times.
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Sometimes its the opponent who asks for it and not the prospect.

If a fighter has to take a fight on 24hrs notice then sometimes he will ask if it can be made with 2 minute rounds due to lack of preperation.

Happened quite recently at Oliver Harrison's show in September and Steve Wood's show last month.
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A lot of the time the Boxing Board will only let a boxer fight two minute rounds: Matt Scriven and Sid Razak for example. no promoter wants 6x2's as far as i am aware but sometimes its a necessity. For example on my next show Michael Norgrove (3-0) is still learning and he boxes Scriven over 6x2.
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King Geedorah wrote:
stujones wrote:Absolutely, Terry. You get clipped and get a flash kd scored against you in a four rounder - your in big trouble.
Stop press, we agee :lol:

Only kidding. Seen a few fights where the prospect gets dropped and is then, in theory, chasing a margin but in these fights refs often give 10-9 rounds, if the prospect is boxing well for the rest of the round, rather than the knee-jerk 10-8. The optimist in me says that this is a good thing, not every KD should result in a 10-8; the cynic in me says that the 10-9 is put into play by inexperienced refs to avoid an upset.
You do realise that is why I said 6 rounds are better? :roll:

These press guys who get lost in Blackpool :roll:

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stevegoodwin wrote:A lot of the time the Boxing Board will only let a boxer fight two minute rounds: Matt Scriven and Sid Razak for example. no promoter wants 6x2's as far as i am aware but sometimes its a necessity. For example on my next show Michael Norgrove (3-0) is still learning and he boxes Scriven over 6x2.
When would it get to a stage that you'd stop using a particular journeyman..... if you don't mind me asking?
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Australia has 2-min rounds as well, but is there anywhere else in the world that does (not including female bouts)?
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In Sweden you are only allowed to box 12 minutes, so a lot of fights are 6 X 2.
In Denmark neo pros can choose between 4 X 3 or 6 X 2 in their first couple of fights
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A 2 minute journeyman is sought after by managers as they are seen as easy wins to protect the 0!!!!

As a Promoter (not a manager) we can only arrange bouts that a particular manager will accept.
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stevegoodwin wrote:A 2 minute journeyman is sought after by managers as they are seen as easy wins to protect the 0!!!!

As a Promoter (not a manager) we can only arrange bouts that a particular manager will accept.
And it is also means rounds in the bank for the prospect as well despite it not being a 3 minute round.
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stevegoodwin wrote:A lot of the time the Boxing Board will only let a boxer fight two minute rounds: Matt Scriven and Sid Razak for example. no promoter wants 6x2's as far as i am aware but sometimes its a necessity. For example on my next show Michael Norgrove (3-0) is still learning and he boxes Scriven over 6x2.
yes certain boxers are restricted to box 6x2s/4x2s even by the board.
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Jeff Thomas wrote:
yid14 wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:There is little difference between a 6 2 and a 4 -3... one thing worth considering is it takes some fighters a while to settle- so in a pro debut for example it might be worth doing the six to overcome this.
theres a massive difference between a 3 minute round and a 2 minute round. And you being an ex pro should certainly know that. Unfit I could last two mins.

The problem is heart rate not duration. There is no difference- or hardly any at least for me. I prefered three's.

And i did 2 min rounds because thats what i was asked to do. :TU:

was you allowed to do 3 min :DD
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I was reporting on the October 30th bill in Newport and Gareth Piper on his pro-debut in a 4x3 did more than enough to win, it was close but clear (if that makes sense) and that was scored a draw. So yes, 4 rounders are dangerous until a new pro gets more experience and 4 rounders require that the boxer makes it absolutely obvious he's won and sometimes on a pro debut it can get to a boxer, we are all human and all have emotions. As well all know, sometimes the judges interpret things differently.
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