WSB Opening weekend

[mike222]

The competition starts friday-here are the probable line-ups

INCHEON RED WINGS VERSUS ASTANA ARLANS
119 T Doniyorov Uzb K Abutalipov KAZ
Asian no 4 at 123 Kazakhi no 4 at 123
134 B Sultanov Uzb M Ashkalov KAZ
Asian no 14 at 132 Asian no 1 at 141
161 A Hakobyan Arm B Sarsekbayev KAZ
World no 12 at 165 2008 Olympic champion
187 A Benchlaba Alg M Amposah GHA
African no 1 at 178 Unranked
+201 M Muntean Mda I Bernath Hun

Close but Astana might edge it

BAKU FIRES BEIJING DRAGONS

119 M Adulhamidov Aze SF Lao Chn
European no 8 at 114 Unranked
134 R Amanov Aze Z Wang Chn
European no 12 at 141 Unranked
161 B Mahmudov Uzb P Lima Bra
Asian no 14 at 152 Unranked
187 D Poyatsika Ukr A Faye Cmr
World no 6 at 201 African no 6 at 178
+201 M Medshidov Aze A Yekuni Gha
Unranked African no 3 at 201

Not much known about the chinese team-their number ones in Asian games
Baku should win


MIAMI GALLOS LOS ANGELES MATADORS

119 F Martinez Arg R Warren Usa
Pan Am no 5 at 114 World no 5 at 114
134 A Martinez Usa E Fowler Usa
Usa no 5 at 132 Usa no 11 at 132
OR
R Navarro Dom E Lopes Bra
Pan Am no 13 at 123 Pan Am no 8 at 141
161 B Castano Arg D Anthony Usa
Pan Am no 4 at 152 Usa no 5 at 178
OR
A Campbell Usa R Larmour Usa
Usa no 12 at 152 Unranked
187 K Egan Ire C Congora Ecu
World no 6 at 178 Pan Am no 5 at 178
+201 J Payares Ven J Torres Usa
Pan Am no 3 at +201 Usa no 11 at 201

MEXICO CITY GUERREROS MEMPHIS FORCE
119 B Avila Mex D Dalakiev Bul
Pan Am no 5 at 114 World no 4 at 123
134 H Manzanilla Ven U Munkh-Erdene Mgl
Pan Am no 12 at 132 Asian no 3 at 141
OR R Williams Usa
Usa no 4 at 132
161 Y Falcao Bra T Gausha Usa
Pan Am no 9 at 165 Usa no 2 at 165
187 J Castilo Ecu I Szello Hun
Pan Am no 1 at 201 European no 8 at 178
+201 D Sealy Bar J Charles Usa
Unranked Unranked
OR A Rivera Usa
Unranked
Memhis perhaps 3-2

MILAN THUNDER PARIS UNITED
119 V Parrinello Ita J Nevin Ire
European no 12 at 123 European no 11 at 123
OR
V Picardi Ita
World no 3 at 114
134 D Valentino Ita R Azzedine Fra
World no 8 at 132 European no 8 at 132
161 S D Serevyancenko Ukr A Vastine Fra
World no 7 at 165 World no 9 at 152
187 N Grisunins Lat H Sep Cro
Europe no 11 at 178 Europe no 13 at 178
+201 C Russo Ita Z Jiouni Fra
World no 4 at 201 Europe no 13 at +201
Probably two of the best teams here but Milan look stronger


MOSCOW KREMLIN BEARS ISTANBUL THUNDER
119 K Kosimov Rus S Eker Tur
Unranked European no 14 at 114
134 A Abdurashidov Rus B Aydin Tur
Russian no 6 at 141 Unranked
161 A Ustanov Rus O Sipal Tur
Russian no 12 at 165 World no 5 at 152
187 Z Usmanov Kgz O Ozgul Tur
Unranked Unranked
+201 A Madaev Rus M Arjaoi Mar
Russian no 14 at +201 Africa no 2 at +201
Moscow should win

OBSERVATIONS
Some crazy weight gains and losses for these boxers
I would like to meet the guy who organised this for the same time as the Asian games which meant some Asian boxers had to make an unenviable choice

[JMac]

It's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out. There is no real mainstream TV coverage in the US other than some Hispanic station that most non Hispanics would not have. I also don't know if they will draw well at the actual arenas during American football season. Two of the US cities do have large Hispanic populations but if they can watch it at home, why go to the arena.
If it helps get rid of the alphabet pro organizations that are killing pro boxing, I'm all for it. But they need to rethink about the automatic bids to the Olympics if it impacts the other boxers from the same countries.

[JMac]

I just talked to one of the Americas officials for the WSB and he told me they can't work LA or Miami shows because the State Athletic Commisiions in those states will not let them. They want their own state officials working the events. I had talked about that here a while ago wondering if this might happen. Pro boxing is scared of the WSB, all of them, the alphabet organizations, the SAC's, etc. I am currious how AIBA will handel this.
I also hear that Europe is excited about the WSB but I just don't know if it will go over well in the states. The WSB needs the US to be productive and exciting to make it seem legit as the US has always been the Meca of pro boxing, It's getting bigger in Europe now but still most of the mega fights are in Vegas.

[mike222]

Its not being shown live on Sky or ESPN in England
ESPN is showing Pittsburgh v Carolina NHL
AND Dallas v Chicago NBA both live
SKY is showing cricket England v Australia A live
I will see if Italy or France are showing it

[Dennis]

It's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out. There is no real mainstream TV coverage in the US other than some Hispanic station that most non Hispanics would not have. I also don't know if they will draw well at the actual arenas during American football season. Two of the US cities do have large Hispanic populations but if they can watch it at home, why go to the arena.
If it helps get rid of the alphabet pro organizations that are killing pro boxing, I'm all for it. But they need to rethink about the automatic bids to the Olympics if it impacts the other boxers from the same countries.

AIBA can't control U.S. laws. There will be lawsuits filed (and they will most likely be successful) if a U.S. boxer wins the individual WSB championship and other USA boxers are denied an opportunity to compete in the Olympic Trials in the weight class in which they are qualified (i.e. they won the PAL, U.S. Nat'l Chp, NGG, etc).

[mike222]

I think US hispanic channel VME has the rights to show the WSB in USA.

[locoxelbox]

Matchups for the first round of the WSB (except Miami Gallos vs LA Matadors) can be seen here: http://www.worldseriesboxing.com/schedu ... -2011.aspx

I´m going to Milan to watch Milano Thunders vs Paris United . Unfortunately not too many World stars in the leauge. The russians have No 4s or lower in their team .

[mike222]

Can you post the Milan results if you get a chance.

[Dennis]

If the bouts were on TV, I would definitely watch them. I think there are a lot of amateur fans that would and probably quite a few pro fans (many are both) who would if they watched it once. The nice thing about the WSB from purely a spectators point of view is the bouts are going to be competitive. Much more so than your typical pro card.

Now if I can just find a way to watch the bouts on VME. I think it will be on TV here at least on replay, but I think it is broadcast in Spanish. My Spanish vocabulary will increase.

[NYboxing]

Here is the VME schedule for the next couple of weeks:

11/20 - Mexico City Vs. Memphis
11/27 - Memphis Vs. Miami
12/04 - highlight show
12/11 - Los Angeles Vs. Memphis
12/18 - Memphis Vs. Los Angeles

I actually have this channel, will be watching and recording the telecast.

WSB is an interesting concept, fights should be good and competitive, but I wonder how many people will show up crowd-wise.

[Dennis]

WSB is an interesting concept, but if the public doesn't watch it, then it won't succeed. The boxers will also suffer a lot of wear throughout the season. It is pro boxing, the boxers are being required to get professional licenses and the commiissions will oversee the competitions.

[Dennis]

VME will air one competition each week (5 bouts) starting this Saturday (tomorrow) from 8-10 pm. I think they will also show highlights of other bouts and/or a replay at other times and/or on other days. I think it will also be a replay, highlights or promoting upcoming bouts on the "off" weekends.

I will be watching tomorrow.

[DCAmateurBoxing]

VME will air one competition each week (5 bouts) starting this Saturday (tomorrow) from 8-10 pm. I think they will also show highlights of other bouts and/or a replay at other times and/or on other days. I think it will also be a replay, highlights or promoting upcoming bouts on the "off" weekends.

I will be watching tomorrow.

Me too. I've got it to DVR. It's channel 440 on Direct TV but I saw World Series of Boxing on other channels as well in the guide.

[mike222]

EUROPE

54 J J Nevin PAR bt V Picardi MIL
61 D Valentino MIL bt R Farhani PAR
73 S Derevyenchko MIL bt S Cuevas PAR
85 L Groghue PAR bt N Grisunins MIL
+91 C Russo MIL bt Z Jouni PAR
Milan bt Paris 3-2

[donnellon]

Whoever rated Nevin 11 or 12 in Europe hasn't a clue-he's in the top 3 in the World.

[mike222]

Three 5-0 results
54 B Avila bt E Garza
61 J Marin bt U Munkh-Erdene
73 Y Falcao bt C Jones
85 F Castro bt R Brant
+91 J Hiracheta bt J Charles
Mexico 5-0 Memphis
I expected more from Memphis


54 M Abdulhamidov bt S Luo
61 R Amanov bt L Fong
73 S Migitnov W/O X Zhang
85 D Poyatsika W/O J Xuezhi
+91 M Medshidov W/O Z Nua
Baku 5-0 Beijing
Not sure the chinese took this seriously-three walkovers


54 K Abutalipov bt S Dongsik
61 M Ashkalov bt B Sultanov
73 A Nurmatov bt V Cotiujanshi
85 M Amposah bt R Papuni
+91 I Bernath bt Muntean
Astana 5-0 Incheon
The Kazakhis are taking this seriously

[Dennis]

The results should include the scores of the bouts. Was the bout 50-45 on all judges cards or was it a split decision with 48-47, 48-47 & 47-48 scores?
Did memphis get destroyed or was there some home cooking going on in Mexico City?

[NYboxing]

here are scores from WSB website but some don' t make sense.

Results:
Bantamweight -- MC Guerreros Braulio Avila UD Memphis Force Ernesto Garza, 49-46, 50-45, 50-45

Lightweight -- MC Guerreros Juan Romero UD Memphis Force Munkh Erdene, 48-47, 47-47, 47-47

Middleweight -- MC Guerreros Yamaguchi Romero UD Memphis Force Chris Jones, 49-46, 49-46, 49-46

Light heavyweight -- MC Guerreros Javier Ortega UD Memphis Force Robert Brant, 48-46, 50-44, 48-47

Heavyweight -- MC Guerreros Juan Martinez SD Memphis Force Javonta Charles, 46-48, 47-47, 47-47

[mike222]

If those scores are right how did Javonta Charles lose?

[mike222]

Moscow defeat Istanbul 3-2
54 S Eker IST bt E Gusev MOS
61 A Abdurashidov MOS bt B Aydin IST
73 A Ustarkhanov MOS bt M Tibukoglu IST
85 Z Usmanov MOS bt M Bayazit IST
+91 O Sivko IST bt A Madayev MOS

[NYboxing]

If those scores are right how did Javonta Charles lose?

I wish I knew Mike, got it from the write up on the WSB website. It is on tape delay tonight, let you know what they announce, it they do.

[Dennis]

I have enjoyed the bouts of the Memphis vs Mexico City competition. Or is it match, game, meet, etc? The team concept is new so I don't know the proper term. The bouts are on par with many of the top pro bouts you see on TV. Much better than most of the 4 and 6 round preliminary bouts they show on TV. These bouts are competitive.

[mike222]

Tuesdays line-ups
Miami v Los Angeles
54 J Ochoa v F Martinez
61 A Martinez v E Fowler
73 W Williams v C Watson
85 T Egan v D Anthony
+91 T Rawlings v D Imoesiri
Should be interesting

[locoxelbox]

There were some good fights in Milan. JJ Nevin was too smooth and too big for Picardi. Valentino looked good beating the frenchman. Derevyachenko destroyed his opponent. Groughe won against technically better Grisunins but Groghue worked hard and showed a great spirit. Russo was too fast in the final match and won clearly despite being the smaller man.
Some 1500 in attendance, too little to break even I guess. But a nice venue, good fights and the italians winning can hopefully increase that number though I have my doubts.

[daallo]

If those scores are right how did Javonta Charles lose?

Beacuse even on a 47-47 the judge needs to say who won for him...There are no ties in amateur boxing.