Ruslan Chagaev earned the tag of "White Tyson" in his early career as he racked up knockout after knockout but the mandatory challenger to our own David Haye turned box-fighter as he stepped up a level. Chagaev has failed to stop anyone since Reading's Michael Sprott in eight rounds in 2006. He challenges Haye for the WBA heavyweight title in the first half of next year.
This is a good time to face the 32-year-old Chagaev, a stocky Uzbekistani living and fighting out of Germany who endures health problems (rumoured Hepatitis B) and spells out. He also has a problem with scartissue over his left eye, which is something the quicker, sharper Haye can work on. Chagaev has failed to shine since outscoring previously unbeaten Russian Nikolai Valuev in a big upset three years ago, needing the full 12 rounds to see off Bedford's Matt Skelton a fight later, before taking a technical decision over an obscure Costa Rican. Chagaev then suffered his one and only defeat (in 28 outings) at the hands of Wladimir Klitschko, who floored him in the second round and continued to punish him. Chagaev was pulled out after nine rounds with a cut over that left eye.
This was last year, in front of a massive German crowd of 60,000. You have to say, if Chagaev can take Klitschko nine rounds, he is likely to take Haye into the later championship rounds. Southpaw Chagaev, strong and clever, earned his shot with a unanimous 12-round decision over big New Zealander Kali Meehan earlier this year in Germany. In contrast, Haye comes off a pathetically easy three-round dismissal of Audley Harrison, toying with his London rival.
Nevertheless, Haye is fresh and exciting in a moribund division dominated by the Klitschko brothers, Wlad and Vitali. David won his WBA title with a smart-boxing decision over Valuev last year and has retained twice. At 30, Haye is still relatively young for a heavyweight, still improving, still hungry. While the ageing, muscle-bound Klitschkos go through the motions against the likes of Shannon Briggs and Derek Chisora, Haye gets better and better. This time next year, he will be ready for either one. He warms up with a late stoppage of Chagaev, proving too quick for the challenger in the end.
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Rick,Rick Farris wrote:Freddie Roach at Wild Card Gym . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ai7ysoRISg
This is a great interview.
Thanks for posting this, it is a great interview, FR is candid and intelligent, I think he is the best thing boxing has going right now. I like the honesty and no BS yet classy way he runs things, I am so tired of the BS that comes out of the other camps like what we saw come out of Margarito's camp on HBO's 24/7 and what we have seen come out of all the Mayweather camps over the years.
I need to make a pilgrimage to SoCal to see the Wildcard Gym someday, looks like a place I would enjoy. This interview reminds me a little of when I was a teen and hanging around Newman's gym, I loved to listen to the trainers and the mangers talking about a recent fight, what happened between rounds, why they did certain things, what they thought was going on in their fighters heads...man I miss those days.
Thanks Again,
Bruce
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Rick Farris wrote:Freddie Roach at Wild Card Gym . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ai7ysoRISg
This is a great interview.
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"Maybe I'm biased because I'm black, but I think that this is what is said at people's homes and around the dinner table among black boxing fans and fighters. Most of them won't say it [in public] because they're not being real and they don't have the balls to say it, "But I do think that a fighter like the Ray Leonards or anyone like that would beat a guy [like Pacquiao] if they come with their game,
Listen, this ain't a racial thing, but then again, maybe it is, but the style that is embedded in most of us black fighters, that style could be a problem to any other style of fighting." - Bernard Hopkins
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Look, Man, I don't want to get in a racial beef with anyone but that statements really does call for some type of rebuttal, even a brief one. I mean, how do you respond to a statement like that? Bullshit is the first word that comes to mind
With one inane statement Bernard Hopkins has just relegated every nonblack fighter to a secondary status. There are in fact three possible reasons that Manny Pacquiao has not faced any black fighters.
First early in his career Manny Pacquiao fought all his early fights excluslivly in Asia, most of them being in the Philippines.
Secondly, in the championship stage of his career Manny Pacquiao fought the best fighters of his division, period. Is it his fault that the best at that time weren't black or that the best happened to be mostly Hispanic fighters? The guys he fought were champions in their respective division; Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez and Ricky Hatton. The only black fighter with a Leonard like style of fighting is Floyd Mayweather Jr. and if anyone can get him to sign the dotted line (good luck) Manny will fight him. To the best of my knowledge, Manny had already agreed to take the test. That the fight has yet to take place is squarely on Mayweather's shoulders.
Thirdly, maybe Bernard should consider the possibility that some of the black fighters in the lower weight division are ducking Manny Pacquiao. Who should he have fought? Nate Campbell? Too spotty a record and can't really be considered a serious threat. Zab Judah? Hold on, let me stop laughing,... okay, by the time Manny got to the higher weight classes, Judah, all on his own became a Persona Non Grata. He was a non issue by the time Pacquiao got to the Junior Welters. Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander and Andre Berto are all good fighters but all three are just now starting to make their mark. No one can seriously make the case that Manny Pacquiao is ducking them. So who exactly is he ducking? Why can't he or anyone else ask "Why is Floyd Mayweather Jr. avoiding Filipino fighters?". Now that's a fair question. If you can find one on his record I'll eat my hat.
While I agree with Bernard Hopkins that some black fighters do posses, albeit, to a lesser degree, a Leonard like style that is unique to African American fighters, I don't think they are, across the board, automatically better. If that's the case, why are two brothers from Ukraine holding the heavyweight belts hostage?
It's the man and his ability and nothing else.
What sickens me most is not what Hopkins said but this statement by Bob Arum "A fight with Shane Mosley would answer that situation,". If Pacquiao takes that fight I'll take back every good thing I ever said about him. Mosley, one of the best fighters of his era has seen his better days and though it pains me to say it, at this stage of his career it would sending him to the wolves for a big payday. Bob Arum should be made to go one round with Pacquiao just for thinking it.
Listen, this ain't a racial thing, but then again, maybe it is, but the style that is embedded in most of us black fighters, that style could be a problem to any other style of fighting." - Bernard Hopkins
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Look, Man, I don't want to get in a racial beef with anyone but that statements really does call for some type of rebuttal, even a brief one. I mean, how do you respond to a statement like that? Bullshit is the first word that comes to mind
With one inane statement Bernard Hopkins has just relegated every nonblack fighter to a secondary status. There are in fact three possible reasons that Manny Pacquiao has not faced any black fighters.
First early in his career Manny Pacquiao fought all his early fights excluslivly in Asia, most of them being in the Philippines.
Secondly, in the championship stage of his career Manny Pacquiao fought the best fighters of his division, period. Is it his fault that the best at that time weren't black or that the best happened to be mostly Hispanic fighters? The guys he fought were champions in their respective division; Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez and Ricky Hatton. The only black fighter with a Leonard like style of fighting is Floyd Mayweather Jr. and if anyone can get him to sign the dotted line (good luck) Manny will fight him. To the best of my knowledge, Manny had already agreed to take the test. That the fight has yet to take place is squarely on Mayweather's shoulders.
Thirdly, maybe Bernard should consider the possibility that some of the black fighters in the lower weight division are ducking Manny Pacquiao. Who should he have fought? Nate Campbell? Too spotty a record and can't really be considered a serious threat. Zab Judah? Hold on, let me stop laughing,... okay, by the time Manny got to the higher weight classes, Judah, all on his own became a Persona Non Grata. He was a non issue by the time Pacquiao got to the Junior Welters. Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander and Andre Berto are all good fighters but all three are just now starting to make their mark. No one can seriously make the case that Manny Pacquiao is ducking them. So who exactly is he ducking? Why can't he or anyone else ask "Why is Floyd Mayweather Jr. avoiding Filipino fighters?". Now that's a fair question. If you can find one on his record I'll eat my hat.
While I agree with Bernard Hopkins that some black fighters do posses, albeit, to a lesser degree, a Leonard like style that is unique to African American fighters, I don't think they are, across the board, automatically better. If that's the case, why are two brothers from Ukraine holding the heavyweight belts hostage?
It's the man and his ability and nothing else.
What sickens me most is not what Hopkins said but this statement by Bob Arum "A fight with Shane Mosley would answer that situation,". If Pacquiao takes that fight I'll take back every good thing I ever said about him. Mosley, one of the best fighters of his era has seen his better days and though it pains me to say it, at this stage of his career it would sending him to the wolves for a big payday. Bob Arum should be made to go one round with Pacquiao just for thinking it.
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Thoughts on Marriage
1) Marriage is not a word. It is a sentence (a life sentence).
2) Marriage is very much like a violin; after the sweet music is over, the strings are still attached.
3) Marriage is love. Love is blind. Therefore marriage is an institution for the blind.
4) Marriage is an institution in which a man loses his Bachelor's Degree and the woman gets her Master's.
5) Marriage is a thing which puts a ring on a woman's finger, and two under the man's eyes.
6) Marriage certificate is just another word for a work permit.
7) Marriage is not just a having a wife but also worries inherited forever.
8) Marriage requires a man to prepare 4 types of "RINGS":
* The Engagement Ring
* The Wedding Ring
* The Suffe-ring
* The Endu-ring
9) Married life is full of excitement and frustration:
* In the first year of marriage, the man speaks and the woman listens.
* In the second year, the woman speaks and the man listens.
* In the third year, they both speak and the NEIGHBORS listen.
10) It is true that love is blind but marriage is definitely an eye-opener.
11) Getting married is very much like going to the restaurant with friends. You order what you want, and when you see what the other fellow has, you wish you had ordered that instead.
12) It's true that all men are born free and equal-but some of them get MARRIED!
13) There was this man who muttered a few words in the church and found himself married. A year later he muttered something in his sleep and found himself divorced.
14) A happy marriage is a matter of giving and taking; the husband gives and the wife takes.
15) Conversations between son & father:
Son: How much does it cost to get married, Dad?
Father: I don't know son, I'm still paying for it.
Son: Is it true? Dad, I heard that in ancient China, a man doesn't know his wife until he marries.
Father: That happens everywhere, son, EVERYWHERE!
1) Marriage is not a word. It is a sentence (a life sentence).
2) Marriage is very much like a violin; after the sweet music is over, the strings are still attached.
3) Marriage is love. Love is blind. Therefore marriage is an institution for the blind.
4) Marriage is an institution in which a man loses his Bachelor's Degree and the woman gets her Master's.
5) Marriage is a thing which puts a ring on a woman's finger, and two under the man's eyes.
6) Marriage certificate is just another word for a work permit.
7) Marriage is not just a having a wife but also worries inherited forever.
8) Marriage requires a man to prepare 4 types of "RINGS":
* The Engagement Ring
* The Wedding Ring
* The Suffe-ring
* The Endu-ring
9) Married life is full of excitement and frustration:
* In the first year of marriage, the man speaks and the woman listens.
* In the second year, the woman speaks and the man listens.
* In the third year, they both speak and the NEIGHBORS listen.
10) It is true that love is blind but marriage is definitely an eye-opener.
11) Getting married is very much like going to the restaurant with friends. You order what you want, and when you see what the other fellow has, you wish you had ordered that instead.
12) It's true that all men are born free and equal-but some of them get MARRIED!
13) There was this man who muttered a few words in the church and found himself married. A year later he muttered something in his sleep and found himself divorced.
14) A happy marriage is a matter of giving and taking; the husband gives and the wife takes.
15) Conversations between son & father:
Son: How much does it cost to get married, Dad?
Father: I don't know son, I'm still paying for it.
Son: Is it true? Dad, I heard that in ancient China, a man doesn't know his wife until he marries.
Father: That happens everywhere, son, EVERYWHERE!
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Based on what happened in his bouts with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Sergio Mora, it appears that Shane Mosley is a shell of his former self. As a result, I think that Mosley should be retiring rather than becoming cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao.
- Chuck Johnston
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Dn Fraser on Manny Pacquiao . . .
I spoke with Don Fraser yesterday. I asked him what he thought of Manny Pac.
Don has been around boxing since he was a kid, in January he will be 84.
"I think he is one of the grestest boxers I have ever seen, maybe the best.
I think that Pacquiao is one boxer who would be successful in any era."
Fraser continued, "I believe that he'd beat the Henry Armstrong's and the McLarnin's, etc. (Fraser saw Armstrong live). There is only one fighter that might give Manny Pacquiao a good fight and that is Roberto Duran."
Don and I are on the same page regarding the great Filipino. I loved Freddie Roach's interview because he pointed out that Margarito did hurt Pac in the sixth round. A brutal hook to the body stopped Manny for a second, and Margo landed some solid uppercuts, as well. Pac said it was his toughest fight, and I'm not surprised. However, when you think about it, considering the great difference in size, Margo's natural punching power, and the fact he did land on Pac, when did we see Manny in danger of losing? Never. I think it shows that on top of a brilliant boxing style & devistating power, Manny can take a shot and when he's hurt he can suck it up and succeed. That's a fighter, a real fighter, as great as any boxer I have ever seen live or on film. I can think of only a handful of legends that are in his class.
-Rick Farris
I spoke with Don Fraser yesterday. I asked him what he thought of Manny Pac.
Don has been around boxing since he was a kid, in January he will be 84.
"I think he is one of the grestest boxers I have ever seen, maybe the best.
I think that Pacquiao is one boxer who would be successful in any era."
Fraser continued, "I believe that he'd beat the Henry Armstrong's and the McLarnin's, etc. (Fraser saw Armstrong live). There is only one fighter that might give Manny Pacquiao a good fight and that is Roberto Duran."
Don and I are on the same page regarding the great Filipino. I loved Freddie Roach's interview because he pointed out that Margarito did hurt Pac in the sixth round. A brutal hook to the body stopped Manny for a second, and Margo landed some solid uppercuts, as well. Pac said it was his toughest fight, and I'm not surprised. However, when you think about it, considering the great difference in size, Margo's natural punching power, and the fact he did land on Pac, when did we see Manny in danger of losing? Never. I think it shows that on top of a brilliant boxing style & devistating power, Manny can take a shot and when he's hurt he can suck it up and succeed. That's a fighter, a real fighter, as great as any boxer I have ever seen live or on film. I can think of only a handful of legends that are in his class.
-Rick Farris
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Chuck1052 wrote:Based on what happened in his bouts with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Sergio Mora, it appears that Shane Mosley is a shell of his former self. As a result, I think that Mosley should be retiring rather than becoming cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao.
- Chuck Johnston
Nobody wants to see Pac fight Shane.
It will be a boring one-sided fight that goes the distance, another shutout for Pac. A waste of time.
However, he has to fight somebody. "Pretty Scared" Mayweather will remain in hiding until Pac has a couple more tough fights to chip away at his aging body before surfacing and launching one of his low class verbal challenges. When that happens, I hope they don't fight. I don't want Mayweather to make the money if he won't fight him now. He's the kind of guy who's money will be gone soon, and if fight fans have any sense they would boycott his bouts.
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Randyman wrote:Thoughts on Marriage
1) Marriage is not a word. It is a sentence (a life sentence).
2) Marriage is very much like a violin; after the sweet music is over, the strings are still attached.
3) Marriage is love. Love is blind. Therefore marriage is an institution for the blind.
4) Marriage is an institution in which a man loses his Bachelor's Degree and the woman gets her Master's.
5) Marriage is a thing which puts a ring on a woman's finger, and two under the man's eyes.
6) Marriage certificate is just another word for a work permit.
7) Marriage is not just a having a wife but also worries inherited forever.
8) Marriage requires a man to prepare 4 types of "RINGS":
* The Engagement Ring
* The Wedding Ring
* The Suffe-ring
* The Endu-ring
9) Married life is full of excitement and frustration:
* In the first year of marriage, the man speaks and the woman listens.
* In the second year, the woman speaks and the man listens.
* In the third year, they both speak and the NEIGHBORS listen.
10) It is true that love is blind but marriage is definitely an eye-opener.
11) Getting married is very much like going to the restaurant with friends. You order what you want, and when you see what the other fellow has, you wish you had ordered that instead.
12) It's true that all men are born free and equal-but some of them get MARRIED!
13) There was this man who muttered a few words in the church and found himself married. A year later he muttered something in his sleep and found himself divorced.
14) A happy marriage is a matter of giving and taking; the husband gives and the wife takes.
15) Conversations between son & father:
Son: How much does it cost to get married, Dad?
Father: I don't know son, I'm still paying for it.
Son: Is it true? Dad, I heard that in ancient China, a man doesn't know his wife until he marries.
Father: That happens everywhere, son, EVERYWHERE!
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The Wisdom of Bernard Hopkins and the Brilliance of Writer Damon Runyon should never be confused. Larry Merchant maybe, but not Runyon.
I did watch in person Bernard Hopkins beat soundly Felix Trinidad for the Unification of the Middleweight Title Belts in Madison Sq. Garden in 2001.
I don't remember anywhere on those belts saying " Brains Awarded to the Holder of this Title Belt....".
I did watch in person Bernard Hopkins beat soundly Felix Trinidad for the Unification of the Middleweight Title Belts in Madison Sq. Garden in 2001.
I don't remember anywhere on those belts saying " Brains Awarded to the Holder of this Title Belt....".
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Oscar in Mexico
Promoter Oscar De a Hoya and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer were in Mexico City Tuesday to announce their alliance with Televisa, with which Golden Boy Promotions will produce a monthly live boxing telecast for Mexican fans.
“It is very important to find those next world champions and make them superstars. My job will be to find those talents and that I will come personally to get them. We want nothing more than to make champions into superstars. The boxing world needs Mexican boxing and we should have a presence in Mexico,” said de la Hoya during a press conference in Mexico City.
“For the first time we are working with Televisa in an alliance with the support of Jose Sulaiman and the WBC which has done great things for Mexican fighters and we think with Golden Boy, the WBC and Televisa we can produce the next Mexican boxing superstars,” added Oscar.
Also on hand was WBC President Jose Sulaiman, who welcomed the project.
(Courtesy Fightnews.com)
Promoter Oscar De a Hoya and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer were in Mexico City Tuesday to announce their alliance with Televisa, with which Golden Boy Promotions will produce a monthly live boxing telecast for Mexican fans.
“It is very important to find those next world champions and make them superstars. My job will be to find those talents and that I will come personally to get them. We want nothing more than to make champions into superstars. The boxing world needs Mexican boxing and we should have a presence in Mexico,” said de la Hoya during a press conference in Mexico City.
“For the first time we are working with Televisa in an alliance with the support of Jose Sulaiman and the WBC which has done great things for Mexican fighters and we think with Golden Boy, the WBC and Televisa we can produce the next Mexican boxing superstars,” added Oscar.
Also on hand was WBC President Jose Sulaiman, who welcomed the project.
(Courtesy Fightnews.com)
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CNorkusJr wrote:The Wisdom of Bernard Hopkins and the Brilliance of Writer Damon Runyon should never be confused. Larry Merchant maybe, but not Runyon.
I did watch in person Bernard Hopkins beat soundly Felix Trinidad for the Unification of the Middleweight Title Belts in Madison Sq. Garden in 2001.
I don't remember anywhere on those belts saying " Brains Awarded to the Holder of this Title Belt....".
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Chuck, Rick, I agree with both of you on your take on a Shane/Pac fight. We don't need such a fight and sure as hell Shane don't need it for his long term health, maybe even short term health.....Hang'em up Shane for your own good.....Rick Farris wrote:Chuck1052 wrote:Based on what happened in his bouts with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Sergio Mora, it appears that Shane Mosley is a shell of his former self. As a result, I think that Mosley should be retiring rather than becoming cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao.
- Chuck Johnston
Nobody wants to see Pac fight Shane.
It will be a boring one-sided fight that goes the distance, another shutout for Pac. A waste of time.
However, he has to fight somebody. "Pretty Scared" Mayweather will remain in hiding until Pac has a couple more tough fights to chip away at his aging body before surfacing and launching one of his low class verbal challenges. When that happens, I hope they don't fight. I don't want Mayweather to make the money if he won't fight him now. He's the kind of guy who's money will be gone soon, and if fight fans have any sense they would boycott his bouts.
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On Mosely & Mayweather Jr,kikibalt wrote:Chuck, Rick, I agree with both of you on your take on a Shane/Pac fight. We don't need such a fight and sure as hell Shane don't need it for his long term health, maybe even short term health.....Hang'em up Shane for your own good.....Rick Farris wrote:Chuck1052 wrote:Based on what happened in his bouts with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Sergio Mora, it appears that Shane Mosley is a shell of his former self. As a result, I think that Mosley should be retiring rather than becoming cannon fodder for Manny Pacquiao.
- Chuck Johnston
Nobody wants to see Pac fight Shane.
It will be a boring one-sided fight that goes the distance, another shutout for Pac. A waste of time.
However, he has to fight somebody. "Pretty Scared" Mayweather will remain in hiding until Pac has a couple more tough fights to chip away at his aging body before surfacing and launching one of his low class verbal challenges. When that happens, I hope they don't fight. I don't want Mayweather to make the money if he won't fight him now. He's the kind of guy who's money will be gone soon, and if fight fans have any sense they would boycott his bouts.
Very well said !
If I'm not mistaken, I think my cable system here in New York carries "televisa" station (s). I am not a regular watcher, my spanish is limited to say the least. But those girls on those Novellas
, sometimes I think I should go back and learn some spanish. But I do beware of the danger of "pillows" and the sleeping man. -
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Work . . .
Today I will work too many hours.
I'm not the only one here who works long hours, but it's going to rain tonight, and I will be outside in it until early tommorrw morning.
I was just feeling sorry for myself and then I thought to myself, "What could be worse?"
The answer to that question is unemployment .
So I guess I'll stop whining and be grateful to have a job in these difficult times.
Good or bad, I'll be glad when it's all over and I'm a "kept man" like our hero, Frank.
Today I will work too many hours.
I'm not the only one here who works long hours, but it's going to rain tonight, and I will be outside in it until early tommorrw morning.
I was just feeling sorry for myself and then I thought to myself, "What could be worse?"
The answer to that question is unemployment
. So I guess I'll stop whining and be grateful to have a job in these difficult times.
Good or bad, I'll be glad when it's all over and I'm a "kept man" like our hero, Frank.
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Just don't work to hard, Rick, and you will make it through the nite.Rick Farris wrote:Work . . .
Today I will work too many hours.
I'm not the only one here who works long hours, but it's going to rain tonight, and I will be outside in it until early tommorrw morning.
I was just feeling sorry for myself and then I thought to myself, "What could be worse?"
The answer to that question is unemployment
So I guess I'll stop whining and be grateful to have a job in these difficult times.
Good or bad, I'll be glad when it's all over and I'm a "kept man" like our hero, Frank.
Nice to know I'm your hero....
, though Connie thinks other wise....
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What do you guys make of this first-round finish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsLXOc6 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsLXOc6 ... re=related
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Very weird. Did they investigate this? Strange . . .bennie wrote:What do you guys make of this first-round finish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsLXOc6 ... re=related
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Yes, an excellent interview. Thanks for sharing it Rick.Rick Farris wrote:Freddie Roach at Wild Card Gym . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ai7ysoRISg
This is a great interview.
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bennie wrote:What do you guys make of this first-round finish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsLXOc6 ... re=related
If that was the result of a punch, then it was one helluva delayed reaction, huh?
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The Lennon's . . .kikibalt wrote:http://wbcboxing.tv/index_On.html
You gotta love Jimmy Lennon Jr. If your a true West Coast boxing guy, you loved Jimmy Lennon Sr., and the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
I know Michael Buffer has an edge in the artifical tan department, but I challenge Buffer to introduce fighters in Espanol anywhere near as great as Jimmy Jr.
That's what I got from the video, a beautiful introduction by a second generation legend, Jimmy Lennon Jr.
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Before you can have a delayed reaction to a punch, you have to have a punch. I didn't see anything but a few inconsequential jabs. He did land a body shot about 15 seconds before the Thai went down, but I looked at it again and it was on the beltline and probably caught by the top of the Thai's protector. I think you spell this one t - a - n - k - j - o - b.Rick Farris wrote:bennie wrote:What do you guys make of this first-round finish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsLXOc6 ... re=related
If that was the result of a punch, then it was one helluva delayed reaction, huh?
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raylawpc wrote:Before you can have a delayed reaction to a punch, you have to have a punch. I didn't see anything but a few inconsequential jabs. He did land a body shot about 15 seconds before the Thai went down, but I looked at it again and it was on the beltline and probably caught by the top of the Thai's protector. I think you spell this one t - a - n - k - j - o - b.Rick Farris wrote:bennie wrote:What do you guys make of this first-round finish?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsLXOc6 ... re=related
If that was the result of a punch, then it was one helluva delayed reaction, huh?
Yeah Tom, seems the poor boy lost his desire.