slapbangwhallop wrote:Right, right, I get ya. Because this place is full of right-wing, irrational, rancid, reactionary retards I should foxtrot oscar!
This forum is not very right wing.
Compared to what? Mein Kampf? You've got to be kidding, right?
Is it right-wing to oppose the oppression of women?
To oppose capital punishment for theft?
To believe in a right to free assembly and movement?
Delude yourself you’re left wing if you want but the number 1 danger to the left today is the islamist movement which seeks to second leftists around the world to it’s cause by declaring it an enemy of America and the west….which it is….the issue is that Islamism is also fundamentally in opposition to left wing liberal ideals.
The left and the islamists combined to overthrow the shah in iran….how did that work out long term for trades unions etc?
And go ask an Iraqi trades unionist about his opinion on the whole iraq conflict and removal of the fascist baath party…
boxingchat wrote:If he wasn't at the poppy burning, ask him if he will be using his Jewish advisors and lawyers to sue the papers.
Eric why waste time and tape on this fraud? No one cares, where's your self respect your ex army aren't you?
I did say dont ask me any questions to ask him....yes I am ex army, 12 years, and a few others on here are like Rhino and Spud are ex forces, I wont waste my tape, I want to know why he does these things, and what his beliefs are, I want to know what goes through his mind, I prefer to understand people rather than listen to opinions of others to force my opinion, ,
boxingchat wrote:If he wasn't at the poppy burning, ask him if he will be using his Jewish advisors and lawyers to sue the papers.
Eric why waste time and tape on this fraud? No one cares, where's your self respect your ex army aren't you?
I did say dont ask me any questions to ask him....yes I am ex army, 12 years, and a few others on here are like Rhino and Spud are ex forces, I wont waste my tape, I want to know why he does these things, and what his beliefs are, I want to know what goes through his mind, I prefer to understand people rather than listen to opinions of others to force my opinion, ,
put aside the offence i feel and my disgust at Islamism and i actually feel very sorry for the kid....he's clearly not in his right mind...and seems to believe he's making some sort of ali-esque stand when in reality it appears that's he's been brainwashed into some cult-like group.
Compared to what? Mein Kampf? You've got to be kidding, right?
Is it right-wing to oppose the oppression of women?
To oppose capital punishment for theft?
To believe in a right to free assembly and movement?
Delude yourself you’re left wing if you want but the number 1 danger to the left today is the islamist movement which seeks to second leftists around the world to it’s cause by declaring it an enemy of America and the west….which it is….the issue is that Islamism is also fundamentally in opposition to left wing liberal ideals.
The left and the islamists combined to overthrow the shah in iran….how did that work out long term for trades unions etc?
And go ask an Iraqi trades unionist about his opinion on the whole iraq conflict and removal of the fascist baath party…
I don't have any truck with people with far-right views whether they're of the Islamist or racist persuasion. I just think some of the responses to this boy's silly and misguided actions (and, like you, I actually pity the kid as it looks as though he's being taken advantage of) unearthed some pretty unpleasant views/attitudes.
RJP wrote:
Compared to what? Mein Kampf? You've got to be kidding, right?
Is it right-wing to oppose the oppression of women?
To oppose capital punishment for theft?
To believe in a right to free assembly and movement?
Delude yourself you’re left wing if you want but the number 1 danger to the left today is the islamist movement which seeks to second leftists around the world to it’s cause by declaring it an enemy of America and the west….which it is….the issue is that Islamism is also fundamentally in opposition to left wing liberal ideals.
The left and the islamists combined to overthrow the shah in iran….how did that work out long term for trades unions etc?
And go ask an Iraqi trades unionist about his opinion on the whole iraq conflict and removal of the fascist baath party…
I don't have any truck with people with far-right views whether they're of the Islamist or racist persuasion. I just think some of the responses to this boy's silly and misguided actions (and, like you, I actually pity the kid as it looks as though he's being taken advantage of) unearthed some pretty unpleasant views/attitudes.
but those views are a reaction to islamism...they need to be read in that context...the elephant ion the room is islamism...yet if anyone dares mention it they get called racist / right wing etc etc etc
Good riddance to the clown, the sports better off without him.
And it shouldn't be too difficult to do anything about that rabble at the Tattiedome, Celtic claim they want to take action, well guess what? It's the same 1,000 or so neds that sit in the same seats every single fortnight. Not rocket science!
Oh, and note, they spelt "BLOODSTAINED" wrong as well!! That just about sums those knuckle-draggers up!
pm wrote:Good riddance to the clown, the sports better off without him.
And it shouldn't be too difficult to do anything about that rabble at the Tattiedome, Celtic claim they want to take action, well guess what? It's the same 1,000 or so neds that sit in the same seats every single fortnight. Not rocket science!
Oh, and note, they spelt "BLOODSTAINED" wrong as well!! That just about sums those knuckle-draggers up!
Aye intelligent bunch them. I also notice above the banner they have adverts for "celtic in europe" . I shouldnt bring football into it but its hard to talk about mindless idiots who support terrorism without thinking of this bunch of scum.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Two sides to every story. Fact.
We live in a democracy and its essential that people have freedom of speech. People need to be careful not to act like Fascists in condemning people with differing views.
bluenoseshf wrote:Aye intelligent bunch them. I also notice above the banner they have adverts for "celtic in europe" . I shouldnt bring football into it but its hard to talk about mindless idiots who support terrorism without thinking of this bunch of scum.
Earlier you posted
but happy enough to take benefits from the same government for themselves and their 20 kids.
I don't think you are in any position to speak of intelligence.
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boxingchat wrote:If he wasn't at the poppy burning, ask him if he will be using his Jewish advisors and lawyers to sue the papers.
Eric why waste time and tape on this fraud? No one cares, where's your self respect your ex army aren't you?
I did say dont ask me any questions to ask him....yes I am ex army, 12 years, and a few others on here are like Rhino and Spud are ex forces, I wont waste my tape, I want to know why he does these things, and what his beliefs are, I want to know what goes through his mind, I prefer to understand people rather than listen to opinions of others to force my opinion, ,
My apologies I misread your post. However, if you are seeing him ask him why he is such a hypocrite and spouts so much uneducated crap about stuff he appears to be totally deluded about. Also, whilst you are there, give him a slap for your fallen comrades and from all of us.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Two sides to every story. Fact.
no it isn't a fact...it's a tired old cliche with no real basis in truth.
and the sort of crap that has led to us not recognising islamists for what they are....fascists.
exactly what 'freedom' is al-qaeda or the taliban fighting for? the freedom to rape their wives?? to jail people for shaving? to throw acid in littles girls faces for daring to be educated? to ban women from showing their faces?
you need to wake the f**k up my friend. there ARE moral certaintites in this life...don't believe the post colonial introspective hype.
if the terrorists of which you speak were the RA then you'd have a point but al-qaeda are something else entirely.
dekker88 wrote:he's decided they are his comrades....that's all....don't you get that?!?!?
Doesn't everyone decide who they consider their comrades?
dekker88 wrote:he's simply latched onto a 'cause'
What is wrong with that?
nothing wrong with it...it's just totally delusional that's all.
he's last about 10 minutes in afghanistan.
and if you are correct and he IS their comrade then shouldnt we lock him up as we did with nazi collaborators in WW2? or is that comparison too much for you?
there's no moral eqiuvalance between the british army and islamist terrorists.
liamlion wrote:One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Two sides to every story. Fact.
We live in a democracy and its essential that people have freedom of speech. People need to be careful not to act like Fascists in condemning people with differing views.
There's no such thing as a freedom fighter, what we call "freedom fighters" usually fight to rid themselves of an ideology so they can install another.
The only true form of freedom is known as Anarchy, but Anarchists for some reason are considered to be bad people, personally I don't see a problem with people wanting to live the way they want to without being controlled by politics and religion, it is the way we used to live after all.
liamlion wrote:One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Two sides to every story. Fact.
We live in a democracy and its essential that people have freedom of speech. People need to be careful not to act like Fascists in condemning people with differing views.
There's no such thing as a freedom fighter, what we call "freedom fighters" usually fight to rid themselves of an ideology so they can install another.
The only true form of freedom is known as Anarchy, but Anarchists for some reason are considered to be bad people, personally I don't see a problem with people wanting to live the way they want to without being controlled by politics and religion, it is the way we used to live after all.
don;t agree with you but at least you know what you're talkin about..
liamlion wrote:One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Two sides to every story. Fact.
We live in a democracy and its essential that people have freedom of speech. People need to be careful not to act like Fascists in condemning people with differing views.
There's no such thing as a freedom fighter, what we call "freedom fighters" usually fight to rid themselves of an ideology so they can install another.
The only true form of freedom is known as Anarchy, but Anarchists for some reason are considered to be bad people, personally I don't see a problem with people wanting to live the way they want to without being controlled by politics and religion, it is the way we used to live after all.
When?
Many many moons ago before bits of land had names attached, we lived in small tribes and were self-sufficient.