Classic American West Coast Boxing

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I've decided that I can't wait, sick or not, as soon as Jeri gets back from the store I'm driving to Juanito's to order tamales for Christmas. I'm going to bring home a dozen for today too.

My favorite Tamales were from Mary's Mexican Deli in Whittier, about a mile east of the 605 freeway on Whittier blvd, they were originally in Pico Rivera but sometime in the 70's they moved to Whittier. It broke my heart when the lady that ran the place (her name wasn't Mary) retired about five years ago and returned to Texas. I have never yet had a tamale that has tasted the way Mary's tamale did.

Frank, the photo you posted looked like one of Mary's tamales. I'm hoping
and praying!

Go Randy, after you eat a couple of those tamales you'll feel better....

Besides the 4 doz. that I order for the 24th, I bought a doz home today, had one when I got home this morning and Connie just told me that that's what we are having for dinner tonight...

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R.I.P, Danny Nardico

We lost a great man and a real warrior. He earned a Silver Star in WWII and he knocked down Jake Lamotta. Danny had TNT in his dukes and had the heart of a lion. R.I.P Danny

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Randy, a word to the wise, to reheat the tamales DON'T MICROWAVE them, steam them and they come close to the way they came out of the pan, the microwave will only dry them.

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Rest In Peace, Henrietta King, Wife Of Promoter Don King
By Michael Woods/Sweet Science

He is the quintessential boxing character of this era, is Don King, and they've said everything about him that they say about enduring, iconic "characters" of his ilk. King had brushes with the law as a younger man, and was taken out of circulation after he exacted street justice on a man who crossed him. Fighters have pointed the finger at him, saying that they didn't get what King said they had coming to them, and the government's prosecutors had King in their sites a half dozen times, but couldn't quite put the perfect case together, so they could re-introduce the promoter to a state-sponsored hiatus.

They've said all that of the man, but those that knew him, when the cameras were off, when there was no fight or fighter to sell to the public, saw another side to King. They saw him doting on his wife Henrietta, who he called "Henry" and who longtime employees of Don King enterprises sometimes referred to as "the General," for her obvious leadership qualities, and for the fact that she was the boss in the King household.

Don's wife of almost 50 years died on Thursday night, from stomach cancer, at age 87. She'd had surgery to get the cancer five years ago, which went well, but her faculties dimmed in the last few years, and then the cancer returned.

"I've lost my best friend," said King when she expired, the bombast, the sparkle in his eye that we know so well, absent.

A couple years ago, King shared in a fight program some of what he loved about her, and what made their union stick. She was his "consigliere," he said, able to dispense sage advice about the latest Ali negotiation, the latest Tyson promotion, the latest prosecutorial flurry. It may be no coincidence that King has been less busy in the business, that his influence has dimmed, as her condition worsened.

King, now 79, was tender with her, and would chuckle when she'd assert herself. Business at their mansion was a no-no, and she went ballistic when the Don entertained a client their while she was out of town, and she found out. Her voice rose to the roof, and he gave that Santa Claus chuckle of his, but there were no more client meetings after that. When Henry spoke, Don listened, and for the most part, obeyed.

[Randyman]

On Frank's recommendation I went to Juanito's in East Los Angeles to order some tamales. Man, oh man, these are great tamales, the best I have had since the lady that owned Mary's retired and the deli changed hands. These might be better than Mary's. Jeri and I plan on becoming regulars. The place itself is like a hidden gem.

Jeri and I ordered some tacos while we were waiting, I couldn't resist. I wolfed them down so quick that I forgot to take pictures of them. When we got home I couldn't get to the tamales fast enough. They were so damned moist and the sauce was almost like gravy with plenty of meat, just the way I like it. They were pretty good sized too. Usually when a tamale is big, the masa is extra thick and dry with very little filling. Not these, the masa and meat filling ratio was perfect.

Jeri and I thank you Frank DD

[Randyman]

Rest In Peace, Henrietta King, Wife Of Promoter Don King
By Michael Woods/Sweet Science

He is the quintessential boxing character of this era, is Don King, and they've said everything about him that they say about enduring, iconic "characters" of his ilk. King had brushes with the law as a younger man, and was taken out of circulation after he exacted street justice on a man who crossed him. Fighters have pointed the finger at him, saying that they didn't get what King said they had coming to them, and the government's prosecutors had King in their sites a half dozen times, but couldn't quite put the perfect case together, so they could re-introduce the promoter to a state-sponsored hiatus.

They've said all that of the man, but those that knew him, when the cameras were off, when there was no fight or fighter to sell to the public, saw another side to King. They saw him doting on his wife Henrietta, who he called "Henry" and who longtime employees of Don King enterprises sometimes referred to as "the General," for her obvious leadership qualities, and for the fact that she was the boss in the King household.

Don's wife of almost 50 years died on Thursday night, from stomach cancer, at age 87. She'd had surgery to get the cancer five years ago, which went well, but her faculties dimmed in the last few years, and then the cancer returned.

"I've lost my best friend," said King when she expired, the bombast, the sparkle in his eye that we know so well, absent.

A couple years ago, King shared in a fight program some of what he loved about her, and what made their union stick. She was his "consigliere," he said, able to dispense sage advice about the latest Ali negotiation, the latest Tyson promotion, the latest prosecutorial flurry. It may be no coincidence that King has been less busy in the business, that his influence has dimmed, as her condition worsened.

King, now 79, was tender with her, and would chuckle when she'd assert herself. Business at their mansion was a no-no, and she went ballistic when the Don entertained a client their while she was out of town, and she found out. Her voice rose to the roof, and he gave that Santa Claus chuckle of his, but there were no more client meetings after that. When Henry spoke, Don listened, and for the most part, obeyed.

My condolences to Don King and his family on their loss.

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On Frank's recommendation I went to Juanito's in East Los Angeles to order some tamales. Man, oh man, these are great tamales, the best I have had since the lady that owned Mary's retired and the deli changed hands. These might be better than Mary's. Jeri and I plan on becoming regulars. The place itself is like a hidden gem.

Jeri and I ordered some tacos while we were waiting, I couldn't resist. I wolfed them down so quick that I forgot to take pictures of them. When we got home I couldn't get to the tamales fast enough. They were so damned moist and the sauce was almost like gravy with plenty of meat, just the way I like it. They were pretty good sized too. Usually when a tamale is big, the masa is extra thick and dry with very little filling. Not these, the masa and meat filling ratio was perfect.

Jeri and I thank you Frank DD

Didn't want you to miss this

Randy, a word to the wise, to reheat the tamales DON'T MICROWAVE them, steam them and they come close to the way they came out of the pan, the microwave will only dry them.

[Randyman]

Randy, a word to the wise, to reheat the tamales DON'T MICROWAVE them, steam them and they come close to the way they came out of the pan, the microwave will only dry them.

I hear you Frank. Steaming is the only way to reheat tamales. The microwave ruins them. In fact, I'm thinking about throwing the microwave out with the coffee maker. I mentioned that to Jeri and she gave me the "Look".

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Randy, a word to the wise, to reheat the tamales DON'T MICROWAVE them, steam them and they come close to the way they came out of the pan, the microwave will only dry them.

I hear you Frank. Steaming is the only way to reheat tamales. The microwave ruins them. In fact, I'm thinking about throwing the microwave out with the coffee maker. I mentioned that to Jeri and she gave me the "Look".

She gave you the 'eye"?
I hate microwaves, Connie knows better than to heat anything for me on the microwave....

[Randyman]

Randy, a word to the wise, to reheat the tamales DON'T MICROWAVE them, steam them and they come close to the way they came out of the pan, the microwave will only dry them.

I hear you Frank. Steaming is the only way to reheat tamales. The microwave ruins them. In fact, I'm thinking about throwing the microwave out with the coffee maker. I mentioned that to Jeri and she gave me the "Look".

She gave you the 'eye"?
I hate microwaves, Connie knows better than to heat anything for me on the microwave....

Yes, she did. It's a common occurrence in this household. Are you familiar with it? It can be fearsome and frightening at times. Not that I'm afraid, I'm just saying.

[Randyman]

Jeri loves her microwave but it's strictly for heating up soups, stews, coffee and things that can handle being nuked. The delicate stuff like tamales are reheated on the stove.

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Randy, from 1961 to 1968 I lived two blocks east of Juanito's, corner of Floral Drive and Humphreys St. Juanito at that time was half a block east of Eastern, weekends I would walk to Juanito's for manudo and tamales, at that time Juan the original owner sold only manudo and tamales, nothing else. and dare I say the tamales were better then they are now....

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I hear you Frank. Steaming is the only way to reheat tamales. The microwave ruins them. In fact, I'm thinking about throwing the microwave out with the coffee maker. I mentioned that to Jeri and she gave me the "Look".

She gave you the 'eye"?
I hate microwaves, Connie knows better than to heat anything for me on the microwave....

Yes, she did. It's a common occurrence in this household. Are you familiar with it? It can be fearsome and frightening at times. Not that I'm afraid, I'm just saying.

Oh yes, I'm familiar with the "eye", when Connie bares her teeth and gives me the eye I go to the bedroom and read a book, that piss's her off, she don't like it that I ignore her...

[Rick Farris]

She gave you the 'eye"?
I hate microwaves, Connie knows better than to heat anything for me on the microwave....

Yes, she did. It's a common occurrence in this household. Are you familiar with it? It can be fearsome and frightening at times. Not that I'm afraid, I'm just saying.

Oh yes, I'm familiar with the "eye", when Connie bares her teeth and gives me the eye I go to the bedroom and read a book, that piss's her off, she don't like it that I ignore her...

[bennie]

I've just been called a pensioner on the British forum.

Elaborate please....

Is that considered an insult?

It is, Randy. Sadly, old people are not treated with the respect they deserve over here.

[bennie]

I mentioned a few weeks ago that my daughter Meranda had won tickets to the Marquez v Katsidis fight on the 27th of last month, via a contest on Twitter. Golden Boy Promotions gave her the VIP treatment. A limo picked up my daughter and her gal pals as well as the husband of one of her friends, from their hotel rooms. They were given good seats, and my daughter got to spend some time with Oscar and attend the post fight press conference. They all had a great time. These are a few of the photos she took.


Meranda De La O and Oscar De La Hoya


Larry Merchant and that looks like Lou DiBella with him


Marquez and Katsidis


After the fight


Juan Manuel Marquez at the post fight press conference


My daughter Meranda (center) with her two friends

Nice photos. Your daughter has style, Randy.

[Panzerfaust]

Andreas Evensen impressed on a visit to these shores last year when he despatched an Italian in five rounds on the Matt Macklin-Amin Asikainen card in Manchester.
Why Manchester? The 24-year-old Norwegian, swarthy and strong-looking, is forced to travel because of the ban on professional boxing in Norway, so his young age and an equally fledgling record of 13-1 (5) belie a fair bit of experience on his part, with wins in England, Germany, Denmark, Belgium, Finland and Spain already, and now Evensen sets his sights on Scotland and Ricky Burns for the WBO super-featherweight title in Glasgow tomorrow night.
So, how good is Andreas Evensen? The challenger, who turned pro just four years ago, has yet to fight beyond eight rounds but his last two contests were slated for the championship 12 and he wore down seasoned opponents and stopped them in the middle rounds. He's stopped his last four, in fact, and his sole defeat came on a tight eight-round decision to quality Frenchman Benoit Gaudet in Germany in 2007, which is hardly a disgrace. Gaudet went on to challenge for the WBC super-featherweight title. Evensen used to box at super-featherweight himself but dropped down to featherweight in 2008 and has won seven on the spin to secure a top 10 ranking with the WBO. Yeah, he's good.
However, his featherweight ranking has suddenly earned him the shot at Burns a weight up, and this is where his chances just as suddenly fall apart. Burns, a huge super-featherweight on a run of 14 wins and trained by the excellent Billy Neslon, first came to prominence when he outscored reigning British lightweight champion Graham Earl in a non-title affair at Wembley in 2005, since when he has continued to impress, even in defeat to Alex Arthur and Carl Johanneson, both big-hitters, both on points, his only defeats in 31 outings. "Now it's party time," cracked Burns after making the weight for his stunning world title win over Puerto Rico's Rocky Martinez in September in Glasgow, and you gain the distinct impression that the 27-year-old Scot knows he is so much bigger and stronger than most super-featherweights, and the latter will certainly apply to Evensen.
The likely scenario there is one of good competitive action in the early to middle rounds, by which time the champion's greater natural strength will have taken its toll on Evensen, and Burns dominates down the stretch, roared home by big Scottish support, to take a solid, enjoyable 12-round decision.

I acctually put money on a Evensen win. Even though i dont really think he will beat Burns ,I do believe he will make it a harder fight than expected . Now with Burns seemingly having trouble making the weight im a bit more optimistic. Evensen is not a great boxer but he is extremely conditioned and tenacious.

Also if Evensen can get that paper belt with him back home it would mean the world to the boxing community in Norway!
Maybe even it could help in lifting the bann

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Read the obits this morning and didn't see my name, woke Connie up and told her, "babe, my name is not in the obits, so you have me for at least another day" she goes, "oh, shit, another day with you!, somebody please help me!"

[bennie]

Danny Nardico passed away last month (November 22) without a line in the boxing press but the only man to floor Jake LaMotta ranks as one of the most exciting fighters of all time, a fighter who put everything into every punch, who went out to hurt or be hurt. His fights, quite simply, were savage.
Danny did the unthinkable when he dropped LaMotta with a big right hand in the seventh round of a nationally televised brawl in the States in December 1952. He then pummelled LaMotta for the remainder of the round, with Jake hanging on to the ropes to stay upright. LaMotta was pulled out at the bell, quitting boxing soon afterwards.
Nardico's feat earned him a decider with Joey Maxim for the right to challenge world light-heavyweight champion Archie Moore and he floored the classy former champion in the eighth round but Maxim, always good against the wild men, survived to take a unanimous 10-round decision in Florida in March 1953. Three months later, Maxim conceded a desperately close decision to Moore.
The fight that really defines Nardico came against dangerous heavyweight contender Charley Norkus in a battle of ex-marines in Miami in January 1954. Nardico was no heavyweight and he went down six times but he dropped Norkus twice in return before he was stopped in the ninth round of an unforgettable fight, a fight Charley Norkus Junior describes as "a real bloodbath". Incredibly the two met again just eight weeks later, with Norkus dominating and taking a 10-round decision.
"For years my father tried to contact Danny...", adds Charley. "My father was told, and I think he realized, that he did a lot of damage to Danny in those two fights, that Danny was not the same afterwards and hung them up shortly after."
Unsurprisingly, Nardico went down a storm with TV and was once desperately close to a shot at Rocky Marciano for the world heavyweight title but Norkus put paid to that. He retired in the summer of 1954 with a record of 50-13-4 (35), still only 26, and went on to forge a career in the prison service before developing Alzheimer's in recent years.
Danny's wars with LaMotta, Norkus, Harry "Kid" Matthews, Robert Villemain and "Irish" Bob Murphy mean he will never be forgotten. Even in boxing's golden era, this man stood out.

[Panzerfaust]

youre up early for a saturday Frank

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youre up early for a saturday Frank

Nor really Ram, I wake up at 4:00AM seven days a week.....

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Danny Nardico passed away last month (November 22) without a line in the boxing press but the only man to floor Jake LaMotta ranks as one of the most exciting fighters of all time, a fighter who put everything into every punch, who went out to hurt or be hurt. His fights, quite simply, were savage.
Danny did the unthinkable when he dropped LaMotta with a big right hand in the seventh round of a nationally televised brawl in the States in December 1952. He then pummelled LaMotta for the remainder of the round, with Jake hanging on to the ropes to stay upright. LaMotta was pulled out at the bell, quitting boxing soon aftewards.
Nardico's feat earned him a decider with Joey Maxim for the right to challenge world light-heavyweight champion Archie Moore and he floored the classy former champion in the eighth round but Maxim, always good against the wild men, survived to take a unanimous 10-round decision in Florida in March 1953. Three months later, Maxim conceded a desperately close decision to Moore.
The fight that really defines Nardico came against dangerous heavyweight contender Charley Norkus in a battle of ex-marines in Miami in January 1954. Nardico was no heavyweight and he went down six times but he dropped Norkus twice in return before he was stopped in the ninth round of an unforgettable fight, a fight Charley Norkus Junior describes as "a real bloodbath". Incredibly the two met again just eight weeks later, with Norkus dominating and taking a 10-round decision.
"For years my father tried to contact Danny...", adds Charley. "My father was told, and I think he realized, that he did a lot of damage to Danny in those two fights, that Danny was not the same afterwards and hung them up shortly after."
Unsurprisingly, Nardico went down a storm with TV and was once desperately close to a shot at Rocky Marciano for the world heavyweight title but Norkus put paid to that. He retired in the summer of 1954 with a record of 50-13-4 (35), still only 26, and went on to forge a career in the prison service before developing Alzheimer's in recent years.
Danny's wars with LaMotta, Norkus, Harry "Kid" Matthews, Robert Villemain and "Irish" Bob Murphy mean he will never be forgotten. Even in boxing's golden era, this man stood out.

Bennie, I seen Danny fight live on TV more then once and he always fought his heart out, fighters now days don't fight like that anymore (see Victor Ortiz). I was glue to the TV when he fought Jake.....

[THEHAMMER321]

Good morning all, just woke up, got to get the coffee going.

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Good morning all, just woke up, got to get the coffee going.

G' morning Paul, I had my coffee two hours ago.....

[THEHAMMER321]

Frank yesterday Randy and you were talking about Juanito's,and how they got started in the 1950s, well in Vegas we didn't start getting the more authentic Mexican food until about 20 years ago, sure we had plenty of Mexican restaurants 50 years ago like Macayo's and Ricardos but they are more Americanized, but now with the big Mexican population we now have we have plenty of the authentic Taco shops, which I frequent.