who does ricky burns fight now

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who does ricky burns fight now

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with appleby getting beat and his mandatory defence not due till later in the year???

if im his manager and promoter i would give ricky a rest and bring him back in april-may next year

thoughts???
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a village is missing its idiot
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I think it could be:

a) Sergei Guliakevich http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
b) Joseph Laryea - will be ranked by the WBO after beating Appleby
c) Alex Arthur - Long shot but would be a big seller.
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It won't happen but I'd like to see Choi get a shot, their respective styles would make a good fight
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I would like to see him try and unify a rather weak division, possibly fighting Fana. He raises the game against the better compitition.
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just had a check of the WBO super-featherweight rankings

with ricky now having 2 hard fights in a short space of time i think warren and morrison will pick the easiest opponent for him.

remember he will need to fight the no1 contender after this fight so their thinking is probably justified.

heres 3 of the guys in the ranking i think could get the shout.....



daniel lomeli - 19-2 11 kos , mexican american , ranked 13th and is another smaller guy at 5,6 , should be the easiest fight as the old cesar soto beat him in 6 rounds after a cut eye

allan tamada - 10-0-2 5 kos , philippines , ranked 11th and again is 5,6 , he is fighting away in japan tonight though for a regional title , has won a WBO youth title , probably where he gets his ranking from

emmanuel tagoe - 17-1 8 kos , ghana , ranked 9th , WBO africa champion , again probably got his rating from this , lost pro debut but won everything since

thoughts????
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alexpaterson wrote:I would like to see him try and unify a rather weak division, possibly fighting Fana. He raises the game against the better compitition.
This is the fight RICKY would like too
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Can he ko him ???? wrote:
boxerbob wrote:just had a check of the WBO super-featherweight rankings

with ricky now having 2 hard fights in a short space of time i think warren and morrison will pick the easiest opponent for him.

remember he will need to fight the no1 contender after this fight so their thinking is probably justified.

heres 3 of the guys in the ranking i think could get the shout.....



daniel lomeli - 19-2 11 kos , mexican american , ranked 13th and is another smaller guy at 5,6 , should be the easiest fight as the old cesar soto beat him in 6 rounds after a cut eye

allan tamada - 10-0-2 5 kos , philippines , ranked 11th and again is 5,6 , he is fighting away in japan tonight though for a regional title , has won a WBO youth title , probably where he gets his ranking from

emmanuel tagoe - 17-1 8 kos , ghana , ranked 9th , WBO africa champion , again probably got his rating from this , lost pro debut but won everything since

thoughts????


everson was supposed to be easy
Yep. Burns had his "gimme" fight. There are two top 15 names that stand out for me though--Sergey Gulyakevich and Jason Litzau. I would like to see Burns in with someone like these two, instead of the guys mentioned in the above post. Not sure the likelihood that this will happen though, as 130 is a terrible division, especially when it comes to who has a place in the WBO rankings. I'm not too high on Burns' ability, but he could be a champ for years if the division doesn't diverge from its current state, and I'm sure this thrills his promoter.
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The whole division is pretty dire, I like to see Burns fight Foster Jnr next year.
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I'd like to see him make a bit of money in a domestic fight next. I know it'd be a joke, but i'd like to see him flatten alex arthur.
stephen foster jr would be a more suitable fight and a real test for ricky.
or even nicky cook as an outside shout, if he decides to lace his gloves up again, don't know how strong cook would be if he came back but as former holders of ricky's title, arthur and cook would be viable opponents.

after that he can take his mandatory fight. the top ranked by WBO is 1 Terdsak Jandaeng THAI, that would be a good match up and a big test, he's been in a lot of big fights, with his only loses coming to a very tough joan guzman, and title bouts against juan manuel marques and steven luevano.

if he still has his title after that (which would be a huge ask), he'll have settled into being a world champion, over a year with the belt and 3 defences, a mandatory out of the way and a bit of dough in his pocket, i'd be looking at him looking at other title holder, some of the bigger names in the division, fana or the winner of the uchiyama vs solis fight. if it is as weak a division as some make out ricky can unify titles and prove himself the main man. but i wouldn't be in any hurry to take on the really hard fights too quickly. he's still a young world champion.

I would also question just how weak the division really is, i see plenty of really hard fights in there for ricky.
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No point in Burns hanging around fighting scrubs. He's in the form of his life and should take a leaf from Froch's book. Throw him in with Fana in what would be a winnable (though very tough) fight.
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glahn wrote:No point in Burns hanging around fighting scrubs. He's in the form of his life and should take a leaf from Froch's book. Throw him in with Fana in what would be a winnable (though very tough) fight.

Yes Fana is very beatable. Years back one of our top superfeathers Dean "Pitbull" Pithie beat him easily enough and okay Barrera is a legend but above featherweight he rarely put people away, yet look what he did to Fana. Also Fana went life and death with the very limited Randy Suico. Maybe Burns should milk this title some more then go for Fana. I understand and sympathise with this view point a lot as you have to understand: a boxers career is a short one and you have to put as much away in the bank as you can, while you can. Legacy doesn't pay bills and many boxers find it hard to make ends meet after retiring.

However, the boxing fan in me wants to see Burns go after Fana and end the stupid IBF african merry-go-round. It's a very winnable fight and if they can get that fight in Scotland, he'd be a favourite.
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billy nelson wrote:
alexpaterson wrote:I would like to see him try and unify a rather weak division, possibly fighting Fana. He raises the game against the better compitition.
This is the fight RICKY would like too

are you his trainer mate??? - if so well done on a great year for ricky and your team.

the reason i have mentioned the 3 fighters above is that allegedly usually gives his champions a few easier fights at the beginning of their reign before trying for bigger fights or unifying the title.

i also think that ricky beats fana in a unification fight especially if its in glasgow , im also glad that ricky wants to fight the best and not just sit on the title.

another name i think could be put into the frame aswell is cassius baloyi , former world champion , ricky will be compared to fana who won and lost to him , also it could lead to the unification fight.
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black panther wrote:
glahn wrote:No point in Burns hanging around fighting scrubs. He's in the form of his life and should take a leaf from Froch's book. Throw him in with Fana in what would be a winnable (though very tough) fight.

Yes Fana is very beatable. Years back one of our top superfeathers Dean "Pitbull" Pithie beat him easily enough and okay Barrera is a legend but above featherweight he rarely put people away, yet look what he did to Fana. Also Fana went life and death with the very limited Randy Suico. Maybe Burns should milk this title some more then go for Fana. I understand and sympathise with this view point a lot as you have to understand: a boxers career is a short one and you have to put as much away in the bank as you can, while you can. Legacy doesn't pay bills and many boxers find it hard to make ends meet after retiring.

However, the boxing fan in me wants to see Burns go after Fana and end the stupid IBF african merry-go-round. It's a very winnable fight and if they can get that fight in Scotland, he'd be a favourite.

I agree with every word of this post.

Though I feel like making a joke about how, knowing the recent history of the IBF title, Burns could sign to face Fana & it could end up being either be Fana, Baloyi or Klassen coming out the other corner on fight night (not that that would make much difference anyway, I don't think much of the three of them). They'd have to have three sets of fight posters made up, just in case!
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He should take a money fight against Arthur
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TBH the only fighter names I recognize that Burns hasnt fought are Solis, Foster, Litzau and Fana... The rest of the names in S.F Rankings I havent got A clue who they are lol

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go
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NoMas wrote:TBH the only fighter names I recognize that Burns hasnt fought are Solis, Foster, Litzau and Fana... The rest of the names in S.F Rankings I havent got A clue who they are lol

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go
Thai fighter Terdsak Kokietgym (née Jandaeng) is a bloody hard bastard, a heavy-handed southpaw & one that Burns'll not be in a hurry to face. Went the 12 with Guzman & Luevano (seen over here pasting Nicky Cook). But got effed up beyond all recognition by Marquez (KO by 7).

Guliakhevich (sp?) is the dude who lost to the Mexican, southpaw, Hernando Gutierrez, who then lost to the guy who Guliakhevich beat (Vitali Tajbert) for the WBC title. Tajbert has just lost to the Japanese fighter, Aoh, whose main other claim to fame is losing to Oscar Larios.

Juan Carlos Salgado ruined the "Golden Boy" Jorge Linares, in one round. Linares went back to fighting OAPs though this time at lightweight; Salgado was in his turn KTFO'd by Uchiyama, the Japanese. He holds the WBA title. I think Jorge Solis is fighting him soon.

It's actually not a bad division, just an open field with no stand-out, so any of the top ten are able on their night to beat any other member of the top ten. But there's a nice mix of boxers, punchers, swarmers & jab & grab merchants. Hopefully there'll be some good fights.
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Datsue wrote:
NoMas wrote:TBH the only fighter names I recognize that Burns hasnt fought are Solis, Foster, Litzau and Fana... The rest of the names in S.F Rankings I havent got A clue who they are lol

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go
Thai fighter Terdsak Kokietgym (née Jandaeng) is a bloody hard bastard, a heavy-handed southpaw & one that Burns'll not be in a hurry to face.
oh, come on. The man who was willing to fight Paul Appleby would surely take that fella at the drop of a hat.
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Counter-puncher wrote:
Datsue wrote:
NoMas wrote:TBH the only fighter names I recognize that Burns hasnt fought are Solis, Foster, Litzau and Fana... The rest of the names in S.F Rankings I havent got A clue who they are lol

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go
Thai fighter Terdsak Kokietgym (née Jandaeng) is a bloody hard bastard, a heavy-handed southpaw & one that Burns'll not be in a hurry to face.
oh, come on. The man who was willing to fight Paul Appleby would surely take that fella at the drop of a hat.

Arf.
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Burns stands a chance against any of the other title holders at the moment, its not a particularly strong division.

Fana is old and vulnerable imo and if Ricky produced another performance like the Martinez one then he could pick up another strap. Its a far more attractive proposition than Arthur, Cook, Foster Jr et al.
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Can he ko him ???? wrote:
davie wrote:I'd like to see him make a bit of money in a domestic fight next. I know it'd be a joke, but i'd like to see him flatten alex arthur.
stephen foster jr would be a more suitable fight and a real test for ricky.
or even nicky cook as an outside shout, if he decides to lace his gloves up again, don't know how strong cook would be if he came back but as former holders of ricky's title, arthur and cook would be viable opponents.

after that he can take his mandatory fight. the top ranked by WBO is 1 Terdsak Jandaeng THAI, that would be a good match up and a big test, he's been in a lot of big fights, with his only loses coming to a very tough joan guzman, and title bouts against juan manuel marques and steven luevano.

if he still has his title after that (which would be a huge ask), he'll have settled into being a world champion, over a year with the belt and 3 defences, a mandatory out of the way and a bit of dough in his pocket, i'd be looking at him looking at other title holder, some of the bigger names in the division, fana or the winner of the uchiyama vs solis fight. if it is as weak a division as some make out ricky can unify titles and prove himself the main man. but i wouldn't be in any hurry to take on the really hard fights too quickly. he's still a young world champion.

I would also question just how weak the division really is, i see plenty of really hard fights in there for ricky.
and while why dont ricky find a cure for cancer, grow gills and breath like a fish and wrestle an aligator

back to reality

28year old ricky burns is sobbing at fighting 3 times a year in the post fight interview hows he gonna fit all this in
I don't know if you bothered to read my post before making a smart arsed response.

the first paragraph listed 3 possibilities for a first domestic defense, arthur OR foster OR cook. i never mentioned a time frame, simply the next opponent. say he maybe takes that fight next april after a nice rest.

second paragraph mentioned the mandatory challenger he has to face after that, again no time frame. so he could take that later in the year. say maybe october,

the third paragraph is about the fact that, if i were rickys team i'd like him to leave any big names in the division till after he gets those previous 2 defenses under his belt (i mentioned 3 defenses but that includes the one he just had) i mentioned the fact that at this point he'd have OVER a year with the belt (which he won this september).

I fail to see how any of this implied a hectic schedule of fights.

I hope this clears things up for you.
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I would be very dissapointed to see Burns in with anyone who is not in the top 10. His last fight should have been his easy 1st defence and he did a job on him, but you want to see world champs fighting the best and if not another belt holder then I would love to see Steve Foster be given a chance.
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It's the WBO title - so you kno how it goes - you fight plodders for a year then have to stave off the mandatory - It's a shootie in for Burns - he probably has done the hard work beating Martinez so he can fight average fighters and win - the people who pay to see him can't tell the difference between a good fighter and a not so good fighter.

Foster Jr would be a good choice - but I don't think they would want that at all. We will see.
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Counter-puncher wrote:
Datsue wrote:
NoMas wrote:TBH the only fighter names I recognize that Burns hasnt fought are Solis, Foster, Litzau and Fana... The rest of the names in S.F Rankings I havent got A clue who they are lol

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=& ... &SUBMIT=Go
Thai fighter Terdsak Kokietgym (née Jandaeng) is a bloody hard bastard, a heavy-handed southpaw & one that Burns'll not be in a hurry to face.
oh, come on. The man who was willing to fight Paul Appleby would surely take that fella at the drop of a hat.
He would and he'd beat him and Burns to be honest. He wont get a shot at Burns, though :(
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Sorry for bumping this but I just watched Baloyi/Klassen and Baloyi would be the perfect opponent, a former world champ so should be fairly easy to promote and he's open to uppercuts and can be outworked, doesn't work the 3 minutes, I think it would be a perfect test for Burns but a fight I would expect him to beat!
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