To Juanito's, Manuel's, La Parrilla, et al.....Rick Farris wrote:Remy, don't eat Mexican food in Norway. Wait until you're back here, and we'll get you to ELA this time.Panzerfaust wrote:Im not going near any of that mexican food againRick Farris wrote: I love Mexican food and great tamales are my favorite.
For the past two days you guys have been posting photos of tamales, and writing about them.
I just told Monica that I'm driving to ELA to pick up our dinner tonight, tamales!
Thanks for telling me where to find them. I used to go to a place in Pacoima, "Soto's", where Johnny Flores would go.
Soto's has been gone for years, so now I know where I can find the good stuff.![]()
I still CRAVE menudo , so going through all that again would be to frustrating![]()
Havent found any good mexican here yet :(
Classic American West Coast Boxing
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I would rather Pac face Marquez, which would be an easier fight for him than Mosely.kikibalt wrote:De La Hoya on Mosley Leaving: "It's a Slap in The Face!"
By Robert Morales/Boxing Scene
The President of Golden Boy Promotions, Oscar De La Hoya, is not happy with Shane Mosley at the moment. Mosley was promoted by Golden Boy for five years, but recently announced he was a free agent and could fight for the promoter of his choosing. The way De La Hoya sees it, he made Mosley millions of dollars and he's upset Mosley walked.
"I feel hurt by it," De La Hoya told BS.com. "I mean, obviously, I don't really let my personal feelings get in the way of the job we have to do. We want to do the best job possible for the fighters. When fighters do things like that, it hurts. It's sad because they don't realize what we've accomplished for them. There's a lot of work and you put a lot of energy into it and then you get slapped in the face."
Efforts to reach Mosley were unsuccessful. But the thinking in the industry is he left Golden Boy - in which he apparently still holds stock - to get the fight with WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao. Since there is ongoing animosity between Golden Boy and Top Rank, who promote Pacquiao, Mosley's chances of fighting Pacquiao are considerably greater if Golden Boy is not involved.
De La Hoya's company is pushing very hard to get Juan Manuel Marquez a third fight with Pacquiao, but Bob Arum, CEO for Top Rank, says Mosley is the likely candidate to land the fight. Arum believes Mosley is a more marketable opponent than Marquez.
"I think Mosley is more marketable, but that's my opinion," Arum said to BS. "I think Mosley is someone who even non-boxing fans know. Everyone knows Shane Mosley."
Mosley's recent run has been far from spectacular. In his past two fights, he was dominated by Mayweather on May 1, and he did not look terrific in a draw with light-hitting Sergio Mora on a September 18.
The fight with Mora, which took place at Staples Center, also featured rising Mexican star Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. The event drew 13,591, but De La Hoya said most of those fans were there to see Alvarez. De La Hoya calls Arum's logic of Mosley "being more marketable" as an excuse to avoid a third fight with Marquez.
"This is my take on Bob Arum saying that Mosley has more of a household name," De La Hoya said. "Mosley's last pay-per-view in September, I think he drew about a thousand people and `Canelo' drew about 10,000 people. And I think `Canelo' drew probably 95 percent of the pay-per-view.
"So Bob Arum is saying, `Well, Mosley's a more credible opponent because he's more marketable.' That's not true, that's not true at all. Marquez is the fighter who everybody knows and who everybody wants to see against Pacquiao."
While Arum appears high on Mosley at the moment, he was far from impressed when Mosley fought to a draw with Mora in September. In fact, on this very website, Arum downplayed Mosley's marketability as a future Pacquiao opponent.
“Look, he’s going to be 40 and he’s in the lighter weights where speed is so important. He’s on a show with guys old enough to be his son. I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round,” stated Arum. “To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s but he always had that big, big punch like in the (Michael) Moorer fight."
“It’s like Hopkins, he still knows how to fight but who wants to pay to see him now? His fights are not very scintillating. What you see with Hopkins we’re beginning to see with Mosley. I guess Shane needs the money due to his matrimonial situation. I’ve always considered Shane to be a nice guy but this is what happens to fighters when they age."
Robert Morales covers boxing for the Los Angeles Daily News, Long Beach Press-Telegram and BS.com
Marquez may have given Pac trouble in the past, however, he was easily hit last saturday.
I believe Pac will once again start quick against Marquez, and that it won't last one round.
Pac hits a lot harder than the guy who floored him last week. I see the fight ending early, with JMM's back on the canvas.
If he fights Mosely, Shane has no chance of winning and I doubt he'd answer the final bell, either?
Still, Shane is bigger and will likely take a lot more out of Pac than Marquez.
Pac turns 32 this week. He's fought the best in many divisions, no need to burn him out everytime he fights.
Manny Pac is one fighter who fight's everybody, most in their prime. I'd like to see Marquez get the fight, he deserves it.
Pac only has a few more fights in him, good fights that is. Hate to see them wasted on guys like Berto and Mosely.
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Well said, and so true.....telboy66 wrote:Loyalty has never been a big part of pro boxing from boxers/ mangers/promoters who will drop each other at the sound of a ring bell, It only surprises me that either party feels the need to comment on it . Managers & promoters will off load a boxer when his high earning days are over so whats different about a guy coming to the end looking for the last big cheque that his team can't secure. alls fair in love war & boxing
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kikibalt wrote:Well said, and so true.....telboy66 wrote:Loyalty has never been a big part of pro boxing from boxers/ mangers/promoters who will drop each other at the sound of a ring bell, It only surprises me that either party feels the need to comment on it . Managers & promoters will off load a boxer when his high earning days are over so whats different about a guy coming to the end looking for the last big cheque that his team can't secure. alls fair in love war & boxing
And this is a big money opportunity for Shane.
The Arum-Golden Boy thing could put him out of one of his biggest paydays, just as it will Marquez.
It's seems Marquez always gets the worst of every deal. Now feuding promoters will kill a big money rematch with Pac.
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Unbeaten Saul Alvarez fights tonight in Vera Cruz, Mexico.
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Sorry, I was away from computer the last day or two. (getting the house ready for Xmas season).
I am truley sadden to learn of the death of Danny Nardico.
As stated by you all-a warrior all the way. A light heavyweight who wanted to fight the big guys so he tried to move up in weight. At his increased weight- He still had the necessary speed to compete with the bigger guys. If there was a fault it was in his defense. When he got tagged-he got mad, and this caused him to be a bit wild in the ring with his punches. This opened him up for more shots, but he was a very dangerous fighter to face in the ring. He possessed knockout power in the heavy division but the damage he took made for ferocious fighting and lots of connecting haymakers by both fighters.
He was 3rd ranked Lt-Heavy(gained lbs for the Norkus tilt though.) who was promised a fight with Rocky Marciano in Jan 54. Rocky's manager Al Weill called my father in along with Ghee Leico (Norkus mgr & trainer) and said he wanted my father to go down to Miami and fight Nardico first. My father was used by Weill to be a "policeman" for Rocky at that time. Rocky feared no man, but all opponents had to prove their ring worth to get a shot at him.
The fight was not on TV. As stated in my dads thread- TV cameras were on hand to televise the Maxim-Moore fight the following week in Miami Orangebowl. The TV people asked Chris Dundee if they can film the first Norkus/Nardico fight to have the TV people get a reading on lighting and
various lens shots of fighters. It was only meant to be filmed 3 Rds.
The director was a knowledgble fight fan. What he witnessed was big. He ordered more tape be brought in and the entire fight was captured with no sound. The fight was so big (Ring Magazines runner-up Fight of the Year 1954) that Big Fights Inc, had it overdubbed and was televised later that summer. Danny knew that Marciano was out of the question after the fight.
However, Mad Sq Garden Productions saw big money in an instant rematch-2 months later same place. It was on National TV. It was the first time the Miami Bch Aud was Sold out with numerous actors and baseball stars ringside.
The managers of both fighters asked the Fla. Comm to allow a 3x knockdown rule be enforced for this fight. It was NOT granted. Both fighters didnt want to get into another Pier Six Brawl like the last one. It was relatively a much calmer fight with Norkus on top again going the distance.
Notes: Both fighters were former Marines.My dad said that he thinks that is why there was alot of agressiveness on Danny's part. Also- Danny was lined up for a title shot. He put it all out there till the end. He couldn't ruffle my dad up to be too wild so he, Danny -my father said- was the only fighter to curse at him throughout the entire fight- which my father stated pissed my father off to no end and hence the agressiveness of my dad till the end. The film does not do the first fight justice.With few fight fans in the arena rooting for my dad (Danny was from Tampa)- it was a very bloody battle.
Miami Herald after fight: Norkus had a new fan come up to him in a white suit after the fight. It was blotted with blood from both fighters from the
brawl that just transpired. "Hey Norkus" the fan exclaimed "I'm never going to get this suit cleaned. It from the best fight I ever seen". Later it was learned that the fan sat in the 3rd row ringside.
My father said Danny was not the same again. He tried contacting him but to no avail. I can tell you personally that, over the years, the two have been connected by that fateful night. That one fight is still very much written about in todays boxing journals. My father received fan mail right up until his death in 1996 and with out a doubt-the most mentioned subject in the letters.
In 1985 The Miami Sentinel ( I gotta look up the right name of paper) held a a poll in which it asked Miamians and surrounding area what the most memorable Florida sports events that ever taken place. 1985 mind you.
# 1 Dolphins undefeated Super Bowl year. #2 Ali- Liston. #3 Norkus-Nardico first fight.
2005 interview with Angelo Dundee: Most Favorite fight he ever saw.
Norkus/ Nardico 1. (Angelo was my fathers cutman in his corner during the 2nd fight on TV.
God Bless you Danny Nardico. May you Rest In Peace.
Charlie & Danny before their first fight

My father got up after a solid right by Danny (First Fight).

Last one, Rematch photo

I am truley sadden to learn of the death of Danny Nardico.
As stated by you all-a warrior all the way. A light heavyweight who wanted to fight the big guys so he tried to move up in weight. At his increased weight- He still had the necessary speed to compete with the bigger guys. If there was a fault it was in his defense. When he got tagged-he got mad, and this caused him to be a bit wild in the ring with his punches. This opened him up for more shots, but he was a very dangerous fighter to face in the ring. He possessed knockout power in the heavy division but the damage he took made for ferocious fighting and lots of connecting haymakers by both fighters.
He was 3rd ranked Lt-Heavy(gained lbs for the Norkus tilt though.) who was promised a fight with Rocky Marciano in Jan 54. Rocky's manager Al Weill called my father in along with Ghee Leico (Norkus mgr & trainer) and said he wanted my father to go down to Miami and fight Nardico first. My father was used by Weill to be a "policeman" for Rocky at that time. Rocky feared no man, but all opponents had to prove their ring worth to get a shot at him.
The fight was not on TV. As stated in my dads thread- TV cameras were on hand to televise the Maxim-Moore fight the following week in Miami Orangebowl. The TV people asked Chris Dundee if they can film the first Norkus/Nardico fight to have the TV people get a reading on lighting and
various lens shots of fighters. It was only meant to be filmed 3 Rds.
The director was a knowledgble fight fan. What he witnessed was big. He ordered more tape be brought in and the entire fight was captured with no sound. The fight was so big (Ring Magazines runner-up Fight of the Year 1954) that Big Fights Inc, had it overdubbed and was televised later that summer. Danny knew that Marciano was out of the question after the fight.
However, Mad Sq Garden Productions saw big money in an instant rematch-2 months later same place. It was on National TV. It was the first time the Miami Bch Aud was Sold out with numerous actors and baseball stars ringside.
The managers of both fighters asked the Fla. Comm to allow a 3x knockdown rule be enforced for this fight. It was NOT granted. Both fighters didnt want to get into another Pier Six Brawl like the last one. It was relatively a much calmer fight with Norkus on top again going the distance.
Notes: Both fighters were former Marines.My dad said that he thinks that is why there was alot of agressiveness on Danny's part. Also- Danny was lined up for a title shot. He put it all out there till the end. He couldn't ruffle my dad up to be too wild so he, Danny -my father said- was the only fighter to curse at him throughout the entire fight- which my father stated pissed my father off to no end and hence the agressiveness of my dad till the end. The film does not do the first fight justice.With few fight fans in the arena rooting for my dad (Danny was from Tampa)- it was a very bloody battle.
Miami Herald after fight: Norkus had a new fan come up to him in a white suit after the fight. It was blotted with blood from both fighters from the
brawl that just transpired. "Hey Norkus" the fan exclaimed "I'm never going to get this suit cleaned. It from the best fight I ever seen". Later it was learned that the fan sat in the 3rd row ringside.
My father said Danny was not the same again. He tried contacting him but to no avail. I can tell you personally that, over the years, the two have been connected by that fateful night. That one fight is still very much written about in todays boxing journals. My father received fan mail right up until his death in 1996 and with out a doubt-the most mentioned subject in the letters.
In 1985 The Miami Sentinel ( I gotta look up the right name of paper) held a a poll in which it asked Miamians and surrounding area what the most memorable Florida sports events that ever taken place. 1985 mind you.
# 1 Dolphins undefeated Super Bowl year. #2 Ali- Liston. #3 Norkus-Nardico first fight.
2005 interview with Angelo Dundee: Most Favorite fight he ever saw.
Norkus/ Nardico 1. (Angelo was my fathers cutman in his corner during the 2nd fight on TV.
God Bless you Danny Nardico. May you Rest In Peace.
Charlie & Danny before their first fight

My father got up after a solid right by Danny (First Fight).

Last one, Rematch photo

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Great photos! That over-hand right to Nardico's jaw was a block buster.CNorkusJr wrote:Sorry, I was away from computer the last day or two. (getting the house ready for Xmas season).
I am truley sadden to learn of the death of Danny Nardico.
As stated by you all-a warrior all the way. A light heavyweight who wanted to fight the big guys so he tried to move up in weight. At his increased weight- He still had the necessary speed to compete with the bigger guys. If there was a fault it was in his defense. When he got tagged-he got mad, and this caused him to be a bit wild in the ring with his punches. This opened him up for more shots, but he was a very dangerous fighter to face in the ring. He possessed knockout power in the heavy division but the damage he took made for ferocious fighting and lots of connecting haymakers by both fighters.
He was 3rd ranked Lt-Heavy(gained lbs for the Norkus tilt though.) who was promised a fight with Rocky Marciano in Jan 54. Rocky's manager Al Weill called my father in along with Ghee Leico (Norkus mgr & trainer) and said he wanted my father to go down to Miami and fight Nardico first. My father was used by Weill to be a "policeman" for Rocky at that time. Rocky feared no man, but all opponents had to prove their ring worth to get a shot at him.
The fight was not on TV. As stated in my dads thread- TV cameras were on hand to televise the Maxim-Moore fight the following week in Miami Orangebowl. The TV people asked Chris Dundee if they can film the first Norkus/Nardico fight to have the TV people get a reading on lighting and
various lens shots of fighters. It was only meant to be filmed 3 Rds.
The director was a knowledgble fight fan. What he witnessed was big. He ordered more tape be brought in and the entire fight was captured with no sound. The fight was so big (Ring Magazines runner-up Fight of the Year 1954) that Big Fights Inc, had it overdubbed and was televised later that summer. Danny knew that Marciano was out of the question after the fight.
However, Mad Sq Garden Productions saw big money in an instant rematch-2 months later same place. It was on National TV. It was the first time the Miami Bch Aud was Sold out with numerous actors and baseball stars ringside.
The managers of both fighters asked the Fla. Comm to allow a 3x knockdown rule be enforced for this fight. It was NOT granted. Both fighters didnt want to get into another Pier Six Brawl like the last one. It was relatively a much calmer fight with Norkus on top again going the distance.
Notes: Both fighters were former Marines.My dad said that he thinks that is why there was alot of agressiveness on Danny's part. Also- Danny was lined up for a title shot. He put it all out there till the end. He couldn't ruffle my dad up to be too wild so he, Danny -my father said- was the only fighter to curse at him throughout the entire fight- which my father stated pissed my father off to no end and hence the agressiveness of my dad till the end. The film does not do the first fight justice.With few fight fans in the arena rooting for my dad (Danny was from Tampa)- it was a very bloody battle.
Miami Herald after fight: Norkus had a new fan come up to him in a white suit after the fight. It was blotted with blood from both fighters from the
brawl that just transpired. "Hey Norkus" the fan exclaimed "I'm never going to get this suit cleaned. It from the best fight I ever seen". Later it was learned that the fan sat in the 3rd row ringside.
My father said Danny was not the same again. He tried contacting him but to no avail. I can tell you personally that, over the years, the two have been connected by that fateful night. That one fight is still very much written about in todays boxing journals. My father received fan mail right up until his death in 1996 and with out a doubt-the most mentioned subject in the letters.
In 1985 The Miami Sentinel ( I gotta look up the right name of paper) held a a poll in which it asked Miamians and surrounding area what the most memorable Florida sports events that ever taken place. 1985 mind you.
# 1 Dolphins undefeated Super Bowl year. #2 Ali- Liston. #3 Norkus-Nardico first fight.
2005 interview with Angelo Dundee: Most Favorite fight he ever saw.
Norkus/ Nardico 1. (Angelo was my fathers cutman in his corner during the 2nd fight on TV.
God Bless you Danny Nardico. May you Rest In Peace.
Charlie & Danny before their first fight
My father got up after a solid right by Danny (First Fight).
Last one, Rematch photo
Tonight I'm going to watch one of their matches.
Thank you, Charlie. And Rest in Peace, Danny Nardico.
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Panzerfaust wrote:I acctually put money on a Evensen win. Even though i dont really think he will beat Burns ,I do believe he will make it a harder fight than expected . Now with Burns seemingly having trouble making the weight im a bit more optimistic. Evensen is not a great boxer but he is extremely conditioned and tenacious.bennie wrote:Andreas Evensen impressed on a visit to these shores last year when he despatched an Italian in five rounds on the Matt Macklin-Amin Asikainen card in Manchester.
Why Manchester? The 24-year-old Norwegian, swarthy and strong-looking, is forced to travel because of the ban on professional boxing in Norway, so his young age and an equally fledgling record of 13-1 (5) belie a fair bit of experience on his part, with wins in England, Germany, Denmark, Belgium, Finland and Spain already, and now Evensen sets his sights on Scotland and Ricky Burns for the WBO super-featherweight title in Glasgow tomorrow night.
So, how good is Andreas Evensen? The challenger, who turned pro just four years ago, has yet to fight beyond eight rounds but his last two contests were slated for the championship 12 and he wore down seasoned opponents and stopped them in the middle rounds. He's stopped his last four, in fact, and his sole defeat came on a tight eight-round decision to quality Frenchman Benoit Gaudet in Germany in 2007, which is hardly a disgrace. Gaudet went on to challenge for the WBC super-featherweight title. Evensen used to box at super-featherweight himself but dropped down to featherweight in 2008 and has won seven on the spin to secure a top 10 ranking with the WBO. Yeah, he's good.
However, his featherweight ranking has suddenly earned him the shot at Burns a weight up, and this is where his chances just as suddenly fall apart. Burns, a huge super-featherweight on a run of 14 wins and trained by the excellent Billy Neslon, first came to prominence when he outscored reigning British lightweight champion Graham Earl in a non-title affair at Wembley in 2005, since when he has continued to impress, even in defeat to Alex Arthur and Carl Johanneson, both big-hitters, both on points, his only defeats in 31 outings. "Now it's party time," cracked Burns after making the weight for his stunning world title win over Puerto Rico's Rocky Martinez in September in Glasgow, and you gain the distinct impression that the 27-year-old Scot knows he is so much bigger and stronger than most super-featherweights, and the latter will certainly apply to Evensen.
The likely scenario there is one of good competitive action in the early to middle rounds, by which time the champion's greater natural strength will have taken its toll on Evensen, and Burns dominates down the stretch, roared home by big Scottish support, to take a solid, enjoyable 12-round decision.
Also if Evensen can get that paper belt with him back home it would mean the world to the boxing community in Norway!
Maybe even it could help in lifting the bann
It sounds like your boy put up a great fight, Panzerfaust, but a good big 'un beat a good little 'un.. British fans want to see more of Evensen.
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Randyman wrote:Thank you Bennie, she is almost single handedly responsible for my gray hair and wrinkles.bennie wrote:Randyman wrote:I mentioned a few weeks ago that my daughter Meranda had won tickets to the Marquez v Katsidis fight on the 27th of last month, via a contest on Twitter. Golden Boy Promotions gave her the VIP treatment. A limo picked up my daughter and her gal pals as well as the husband of one of her friends, from their hotel rooms. They were given good seats, and my daughter got to spend some time with Oscar and attend the post fight press conference. They all had a great time. These are a few of the photos she took.
Meranda De La O and Oscar De La Hoya
Larry Merchant and that looks like Lou DiBella with him
Marquez and Katsidis
After the fight
Juan Manuel Marquez at the post fight press conference
My daughter Meranda (center) with her two friends
Nice photos. Your daughter has style, Randy.
Last weekend I was telling Rick, that my kids thought I walked on water, when they were young. One night back in the early 90's we had lot of company over to watch a fight, I don't remember who was fighting but it was probably Mike Tyson, considering the question Meranda asked. My daughter looked me straight in the eye and asked me "Dad, can you take Mike Tyson?". Suddenly the room went so quiet you would have thought E.F. Hutton was speaking. Every single person in that room was just waiting to see how I was going to answer that question.
That might seem like an easy question to answer but I have to admit I was as proud and as full of sh*t as the next guy back then. How could I tell my daughter, who thought I could lick anyone in the world I couldn't take Mike Tyson? How could I lie in front of everyone in the room, they would have died on the spot from laughter and disbelief. All I could muster was a weak and sheepish "Well, honey, Tyson is a heavyweight". Nobody in the room could call me a liar and I didn't exactly tell my daughter no. There were few snickers but I could live with that. Then my daughter looked at me and said "Oh, You know you can take him, you're just being humble and don't want to say anything". I don't think anyone in the house wanted to see my daughter let down. They let me off the hook.![]()
I don't think she still believes I could take Mike Tyson but she treats me good.
Push Tyson back, Randy, and you would beat him.
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Having my first cup of coffee...4:40AM
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Humberto Soto retains world lightweight title with unanimous decision over Urbano Antillon
Soto successfully defends his title for the third time; Donaire beats Sidorenko with fourth-round technical knockout.
Humberto Soto, Urbano Antillon
By Lance Pugmire
December 4, 2010
The lost interest in Saturday's fight card resulting from a canceled main event did not apply to Humberto Soto and Urbano Antillon, who staged a stirring world lightweight title bout at the Honda Center.
Soto, relying on his ability to strike the challenger with barrages, made his third successful title defense by outlasting Maywood's Antillon in a close unanimous decision.
Soto (54-7-2) weathered the tough, charging Antillon (28-2) even as the champion's legs weakened in the final rounds, claiming victory by scores of 114-113 twice (Alejandro Rochin and Alan Krebs) and 115-112 (Marty Denkin).
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"I had to give everything I had; he made me keep working," Soto said.
Afterward, promoter Bob Arum said the title fight was so riveting that he will schedule a lightweight title doubleheader early next year pitting Soto against Oxnard's Brandon Rios and Antillon against International Boxing Federation champion Miguel Vazquez.
The night, defused by the loss of a scheduled Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Alfonso Gomez main event, also belonged to Nonito Donaire.
The "Filipino Flash" provided all the hype needed to sell his looming February showdown against bantamweight champion Fernando Montiel, defeating former bantamweight champion Wladimir Sidorenko with a fourth-round technical knockout. The move up in weight clearly agrees with Donaire, the former world flyweight champion best known for his upset of Vic Darchinyan in 2007.
"The Darchinyan fight was one punch," Donaire (25-1, 17 knockouts) said. "This was, by far, my best performance as a fighter. … You can't hit what you can't catch, and I proved I can carry my power in this weight class."
Donaire, 28, knocked Sidorenko down in the first and third rounds, bloodying the Ukraine fighter's nose, bruising the right side of his face and then cutting the left side of his head in the decisive fourth.
A hard right hand by Donaire staggered Sidorenko, who fell to his right knee and peered up at referee Marcos Rosales in desperation before the bout was stopped at the 1:48 mark.
Oxnard featherweight Mikey Garcia also improved to 24-0 with 20 knockouts by overwhelming Canada's Olivier Lontchi in a fifth-round knockout.
In the undercard bout pitting the replacements for the original main event, Polish middleweight Pawel Wolak shrugged off a second-round knockdown by Mexico's Jose Pinzon and won by TKO in the seventh.
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Soto successfully defends his title for the third time; Donaire beats Sidorenko with fourth-round technical knockout.
Humberto Soto, Urbano Antillon
By Lance Pugmire
December 4, 2010
The lost interest in Saturday's fight card resulting from a canceled main event did not apply to Humberto Soto and Urbano Antillon, who staged a stirring world lightweight title bout at the Honda Center.
Soto, relying on his ability to strike the challenger with barrages, made his third successful title defense by outlasting Maywood's Antillon in a close unanimous decision.
Soto (54-7-2) weathered the tough, charging Antillon (28-2) even as the champion's legs weakened in the final rounds, claiming victory by scores of 114-113 twice (Alejandro Rochin and Alan Krebs) and 115-112 (Marty Denkin).
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"I had to give everything I had; he made me keep working," Soto said.
Afterward, promoter Bob Arum said the title fight was so riveting that he will schedule a lightweight title doubleheader early next year pitting Soto against Oxnard's Brandon Rios and Antillon against International Boxing Federation champion Miguel Vazquez.
The night, defused by the loss of a scheduled Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Alfonso Gomez main event, also belonged to Nonito Donaire.
The "Filipino Flash" provided all the hype needed to sell his looming February showdown against bantamweight champion Fernando Montiel, defeating former bantamweight champion Wladimir Sidorenko with a fourth-round technical knockout. The move up in weight clearly agrees with Donaire, the former world flyweight champion best known for his upset of Vic Darchinyan in 2007.
"The Darchinyan fight was one punch," Donaire (25-1, 17 knockouts) said. "This was, by far, my best performance as a fighter. … You can't hit what you can't catch, and I proved I can carry my power in this weight class."
Donaire, 28, knocked Sidorenko down in the first and third rounds, bloodying the Ukraine fighter's nose, bruising the right side of his face and then cutting the left side of his head in the decisive fourth.
A hard right hand by Donaire staggered Sidorenko, who fell to his right knee and peered up at referee Marcos Rosales in desperation before the bout was stopped at the 1:48 mark.
Oxnard featherweight Mikey Garcia also improved to 24-0 with 20 knockouts by overwhelming Canada's Olivier Lontchi in a fifth-round knockout.
In the undercard bout pitting the replacements for the original main event, Polish middleweight Pawel Wolak shrugged off a second-round knockdown by Mexico's Jose Pinzon and won by TKO in the seventh.
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Saul Alvarez.....Lots of people have been jumping on Alvarez's bandwagon, and I just don't see a wagon to jump on.
I have seen him fight a few times
He didn't looked too good last night
I have seen him fight a few times
He didn't looked too good last night
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I was looking forward to watching Saul Alvarez last night but I got so caught up in watching a DVD with Charley Norkus vs Danny Nardico 1, that I forgot all about it. I didn't mind missing it though because the Norkus v Nardico fight was as classic 1950's as it gets. The punches thrown and taken was incredible. I'll get back to that fight later.kikibalt wrote:Saul Alvarez.....Lots of people have been jumping on Alvarez's bandwagon, and I just don't see a wagon to jump on.
I have seen fight a few times
He didn't looked too good last night
I caught the Alvarez v N'Dou fight on Boxeo. I came in on the fifth round. Alvarez had none of the spark and energy that he has shown in all the other fights that I have seen with him. He was throwing his punches one at a time, leaving himself exposed with almost every punch. He seemed to tire early in the fight, fighting at times with his mouth open and his mouth piece hanging openly at times. Alvarez was lucky he was fighting someone that had no idea on how to take advantage of his mistakes. Even at that he took more shots than he should have.
Alvarez clearly won the fight but he didn't win it impressively. Any fighter can have a bad night but my gut feeling is Alvarez didn't train properly for this fight. Maybe he's been reading his own press, I don't know. I think Alvarez has a bright future but only if he stays focused. He's not quite ready for prime time, not just yet.
Hopefully, the fight will be shown on HBO again today. I'd like to see the first 4 rounds.
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Just had a steaming hot Juanito's tamale with a hot cup of coffee...

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Wisconsin vs TCU in the Rose Bow!!...WTF!!...no California team playing in Pasadena come New Year day??...that's the shits!!!!.....
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Me too!kikibalt wrote:Just had a steaming hot Juanito's tamale with a hot cup of coffee...![]()
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Ricky Burns defeats Andreas Evensen to retain WBO crown
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/9256392.stm
I don't know too much about either fighter but both guys seem like the type of fighters that I like. I'll start paying more attention. I don't know if this fight was shown in the States. Does anyone know?
Randy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/9256392.stm
I don't know too much about either fighter but both guys seem like the type of fighters that I like. I'll start paying more attention. I don't know if this fight was shown in the States. Does anyone know?
Randy
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I dont believe it was shown in the US Randy.Randyman wrote:Ricky Burns defeats Andreas Evensen to retain WBO crown
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/9256392.stm
I don't know too much about either fighter but both guys seem like the type of fighters that I like. I'll start paying more attention. I don't know if this fight was shown in the States. Does anyone know?
Randy
Bothe Burns and Evensen are quite limited fighters imo , but they are very humble ,hardworking guys with stamina to fight a hard 12 (wich seems to be quite rare these days)
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Not to sound hateful but I hope this promotion lost money, PPV are they drunkkikibalt wrote:Humberto Soto retains world lightweight title with unanimous decision over Urbano Antillon
Soto successfully defends his title for the third time; Donaire beats Sidorenko with fourth-round technical knockout.
Humberto Soto, Urbano Antillon
By Lance Pugmire
December 4, 2010
The lost interest in Saturday's fight card resulting from a canceled main event did not apply to Humberto Soto and Urbano Antillon, who staged a stirring world lightweight title bout at the Honda Center.
Soto, relying on his ability to strike the challenger with barrages, made his third successful title defense by outlasting Maywood's Antillon in a close unanimous decision.
Soto (54-7-2) weathered the tough, charging Antillon (28-2) even as the champion's legs weakened in the final rounds, claiming victory by scores of 114-113 twice (Alejandro Rochin and Alan Krebs) and 115-112 (Marty Denkin).
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"I had to give everything I had; he made me keep working," Soto said.
Afterward, promoter Bob Arum said the title fight was so riveting that he will schedule a lightweight title doubleheader early next year pitting Soto against Oxnard's Brandon Rios and Antillon against International Boxing Federation champion Miguel Vazquez.
The night, defused by the loss of a scheduled Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Alfonso Gomez main event, also belonged to Nonito Donaire.
The "Filipino Flash" provided all the hype needed to sell his looming February showdown against bantamweight champion Fernando Montiel, defeating former bantamweight champion Wladimir Sidorenko with a fourth-round technical knockout. The move up in weight clearly agrees with Donaire, the former world flyweight champion best known for his upset of Vic Darchinyan in 2007.
"The Darchinyan fight was one punch," Donaire (25-1, 17 knockouts) said. "This was, by far, my best performance as a fighter. … You can't hit what you can't catch, and I proved I can carry my power in this weight class."
Donaire, 28, knocked Sidorenko down in the first and third rounds, bloodying the Ukraine fighter's nose, bruising the right side of his face and then cutting the left side of his head in the decisive fourth.
A hard right hand by Donaire staggered Sidorenko, who fell to his right knee and peered up at referee Marcos Rosales in desperation before the bout was stopped at the 1:48 mark.
Oxnard featherweight Mikey Garcia also improved to 24-0 with 20 knockouts by overwhelming Canada's Olivier Lontchi in a fifth-round knockout.
In the undercard bout pitting the replacements for the original main event, Polish middleweight Pawel Wolak shrugged off a second-round knockdown by Mexico's Jose Pinzon and won by TKO in the seventh.
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kikibalt wrote:Saul Alvarez.....Lots of people have been jumping on Alvarez's bandwagon, and I just don't see a wagon to jump on.
I have seen him fight a few times
He didn't looked too good last night
I watched Canelo last night, also. He didn't look good and appeared to be sucking air after a few rounds. Lovemore Ndou kept the pressure on and made him work. We'll see if he continues to grow or whether he has peaked early and is already at his best? Maybe he has reached the top step of his ladder, maybe he was just having an off night?
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I'll add to Rick's advice and recommend that you don't eat Mexican food anywhere in America north of Oklahoma or east of Texas. The only decent Mexican food is served in Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California. (Maybe Nevada, but I've never had Mexican food there.)Rick Farris wrote:Remy, don't eat Mexican food in Norway. Wait until you're back here, and we'll get you to ELA this time.Panzerfaust wrote:Im not going near any of that mexican food againRick Farris wrote: I love Mexican food and great tamales are my favorite.
For the past two days you guys have been posting photos of tamales, and writing about them.
I just told Monica that I'm driving to ELA to pick up our dinner tonight, tamales!
Thanks for telling me where to find them. I used to go to a place in Pacoima, "Soto's", where Johnny Flores would go.
Soto's has been gone for years, so now I know where I can find the good stuff.![]()
I still CRAVE menudo , so going through all that again would be to frustrating![]()
Havent found any good mexican here yet :(
The Mexican food in Oklahoma and Texas is a different style Mexican food called Tex-Mex. I prefer Tex-Mex because I grew up with it. But I love Southern California Mexican food too.
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I got side tracked yesterday and never made it to ELA, so I'm having oatmeal this morning. :(Randyman wrote:Me too!kikibalt wrote:Just had a steaming hot Juanito's tamale with a hot cup of coffee...![]()
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I told Monica I was going for tamales yesterday, and as I was leaving mentioned that Frank said to warm them with steam, not microwave.
She turned to me with her hands on her hips and shook her head, "I know that. You just bring them home and I'll do the rest."
I never made it out of the Valley. I stopped by Warner Bros. to pick up a light meter I'd left there and ran into some friends.
Monica works at Art's Deli in Studio City, which is the best Delicatessen in the Valley. Although Mexican food is not served at Art's, the cooks are all Latino and freinds of ours. Monica has become a fairly good cook of Mexican dishes but hasn't yet learned to make menudo, tamales, etc. Our friend Tony, one of Art's cooks, makes great flan. My step mother is Latina and she makes it good too, but not like Tony.
I told Monica I was ging to pick up tamales today at Juanito's and she just said, "yeah, rght."
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Jets vs Patriots tomorrow . . .
The two best records in the NFL this season. Monday night football. Could be the best game of the year?
I'd love to see Jets win this one, hopefully not in overtime.
Boxing wasn't that great this weekend.
The two best records in the NFL this season. Monday night football. Could be the best game of the year?
I'd love to see Jets win this one, hopefully not in overtime.
Boxing wasn't that great this weekend.
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Juanito's is open on Sunday's....Rick Farris wrote:I got side tracked yesterday and never made it to ELA, so I'm having oatmeal this morning. :(Randyman wrote:Me too!kikibalt wrote:Just had a steaming hot Juanito's tamale with a hot cup of coffee...![]()
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I told Monica I was going for tamales yesterday, and as I was leaving mentioned that Frank said to warm them with steam, not microwave.
She turned to me with her hands on her hips and shook her head, "I know that. You just bring them home and I'll do the rest."
I never made it out of the Valley. I stopped by Warner Bros. to pick up a light meter I'd left there and ran into some friends.
Monica works at Art's Deli in Studio City, which is the best Delicatessen in the Valley. Although Mexican food is not served at Art's, the cooks are all Latino and freinds of ours. Monica has become a fairly good cook of Mexican dishes but hasn't yet learned to make menudo, tamales, etc. Our friend Tony, one of Art's cooks, makes great flan. My step mother is Latina and she makes it good too, but not like Tony.
I told Monica I was ging to pick up tamales today at Juanito's and she just said, "yeah, rght."
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I thought I was looking at a replay when I tuned into the fight last night on HBO's Boxeo. Was that the only showing or was there an earlier one in English?Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:Saul Alvarez.....Lots of people have been jumping on Alvarez's bandwagon, and I just don't see a wagon to jump on.
I have seen him fight a few times
He didn't looked too good last night
I watched Canelo last night, also. He didn't look good and appeared to be sucking air after a few rounds. Lovemore Ndou kept the pressure on and made him work. We'll see if he continues to grow or whether he has peaked early and is already at his best? Maybe he has reached the top step of his ladder, maybe he was just having an off night?






