Classic American West Coast Boxing

[telboy66]

Frank , something that have worked for me is performing the house dutys laid on me sooooo faaaar sub anything remotely resembling a standard...like when i vacumed the fireplace and broke the vacumer..... so i not allowed to do housework anymore

I tried that but it didn't work she stands over me now to make sure it's done to her standard

[kikibalt]

Frank , something that have worked for me is performing the house dutys laid on me sooooo faaaar sub anything remotely resembling a standard...like when i vacumed the fireplace and broke the vacumer..... so i not allowed to do housework anymore

I tried that but it didn't work she stands over me now to make sure it's done to her standard

You're in trouble TB....

[Rick Farris]

"The Fighter" . . .

The film was released this weekend in L.A.
I just saw it, not in a theatre, but on a DVD given a friend of mine who is a member of the Motion Picture Academy.
It will be up for serious Oscar consideration. One of the best boxing movies ever made.
Mark Wahlberg and Cristian Bale were great.

Tonight I will watch it again, this time on the big screen. I want to see it at it's best in a great theatre.

[Rick Farris]

Frank , something that have worked for me is performing the house dutys laid on me sooooo faaaar sub anything remotely resembling a standard...like when i vacumed the fireplace and broke the vacumer..... so i not allowed to do housework anymore

Remy, if you continue on in this manner, you'll be inducted into the "Kept Man Hall of Fame"!

[Rick Farris]

I tried that but it didn't work she stands over me now to make sure it's done to her standard

You're in trouble TB....

You can't give them the upper hand.

[Rick Farris]

A friend of mine just came back from visiting Mexico and he told me that some Mexicans call us Mexican-Americans gringos, and I’m having a hard time trying to figure out if that’s a step up or a step down from been called chicano....

[Rick Farris]

I talked my way out of doing any house work today, to close to my birthday I told Connie. "get out of here and go play with your toys" she told me...

That's why Frank is in the KMHOF!

[Rick Farris]

'The Fighter'


What would Oscar season be without a boxing movie? In 1976, there was "Rocky," a best picture winner. In 1980, there was "Raging Bull," which topped multiple critics' lists that year. In 2001, there was "Ali," a bit of a disappointment. But then in 2004, we got "Million Dollar Baby," which went on to win the award for best picture.
This year, we have "The Fighter," director David O. Russell's third collaboration with star Mark Wahlberg and the first time the director has made a film not based on his own script. And though those who have only seen the trailer may wail, "Another boxing movie?," the critics are nearly unanimous in their assurances that this one is worth seeing.
Take The Times' own Kenneth Turan, for instance. His distaste for some of the colorful characters in the life of "Irish" Mickey Ward (Wahlberg) left him initially thinking this would be another turkey. But by the final bell his mind had been changed. He cautions would-be viewers, "the film is developing strong reasons for doing things this off-putting way but it makes for heavy going in the early days."
Slate's Dana Stevens tries a different tactic, since she, too, obviously went into this film with the hard-earned skepticism of someone who's seen too many uplifting boxing movies. After the usual positive review, she wraps things up with a line you're more likely to hear from an infomercial pitchman than a film critic: "If you're still not convinced that you should see yet another uplifting sports film, let me try one more angle: 'The Fighter' is worth seeing less for its well-told inspirational story than for what you might call its emotional texture."
The New York Times' A.O. Scott also feels he's been down this path many times before, as he writes in his opening: "With the possible exception of the romantic comedy, no film genre is more strictly governed by conventions — or enslaved by clichés, if you prefer — than the boxing picture. Something similar might be said about reviews of boxing pictures, so here goes." He then allows himself to indulge in enough boxing lingo to make Gene Shalit proud: "With solid bodywork, clever feints and tremendous heart, it scores at least a TKO, by which I mean both that it falls just short of overpowering greatness — I can’t quite exclaim, 'It’s a knockout!' "
The reviewer at IrishCentral.com, Cahir O'Doherty, gushes over the film, writing, "Thanks to a tight script, flawless direction and some career-best performances from the cast, 'The Fighter' actually turns out to be much better than the sum of its parts." And to drive home how different it is from its boxing forebears, says, "Sylvester Stallone never made a film this affecting or this raw."
And from Mickey's home state of Massachusetts, the Boston Herald serves up what can only be called a split decision. A cursory glance at James Verniere's review shows that he's given it a B+, high praise indeed. But then try reading the review, which begins: "A cheesy 'Raging Bull'-'Rocky' mashup served on a hot buttered bulkie roll, David O. Russell’s 'The Fighter' is Scorsese-lite with Mark Wahlberg’s boxer Mickey Ward flanked by two performances that are as much about overacting as acting."
Wouldn't you hate to read what he has to say about a movie he really didn't like?

--Patrick Kevin Day

[Randyman]

Happy Birthdays . . .

My father will turn 87 on Friday. Frank Baltazar will turn 74 three days later.
Happy birthday a little early, Frank.

Rick, Happy belated Birthday to your Pops! I hope he had a great day.

Frank, Happy Birthday to you as well, all the best to you!

Randy

[Randyman]

Connie and I were sitting up in bed, I, reading the LATimes, her, watching TV, she can't read the paper because she lost her glasses... !!. Anyway while we're doing this she said:
"Its a bitch getting old, my arms and legs hurt"
"But look at the bright side Baby, we are going on 56 years" I said
"Huh?" goes Connie
"56 years of marriage!" I said
"OMG! how could I!!" goes my Baby
Damn!!

As a master "kept man" I know you know how to handle negative input.
This is something I have trouble dealing with. I need to aquire that "Say what you want" attitude.
A master kept man knows how to avoid a war, I'm too quick to jump into the mud and roll around in it.
Training Monica is a full time job. She wasn't a young bride, doesn't believe something true just because I say it is.
I got used to the younger ones, they'd believe just about anything, at least for awhile.

How do I handle negatively?, I laugh at it, just as I laugh at life. You can say I'm full of laughter, I laughed when I was told I had cancer, "Really"... " I said to my doctor. Don't take life too serious, Rick, turn a negative into a positive and you won't be rolling in the mud and you will be much happier for it...

I’m the same way now Frank, but when I was growing up I used to have a bad temper. I would fight or argue at the drop of a hat. I was self conscious about my hearing when I was younger. Someone would say something and I could never be sure if I was being insulted or not. Pretty soon I realized that everyone got a kick out of seeing my confusion, so they would say something and then act like I heard wrong. Later when I had to go to a special school for the deaf I had to wear a extra large hearing aid, the box itself was about the size of a shoebox with a handle and several dials on it, the ear muffs that covered my ears were the same size as those used for hearing protection when shooting a gun. You can imagine how I felt having to wear this to class everyday and you can imagine how cruel kids can be. I was in the second grade at the time. I developed thick skin during those years, still I had a bad temper when I got older. My father gave me some good advice when he said, repeatedly “Randy, you can’t fight the whole world!” He was right.

Back then there was a bus company for kids with special needs, It was called the Harvey Bus Company. It was a small yellow bus that went to the home of all the student with special needs and took them to school. The kids that rode the bus were called Harveys (by the other students), it was filled with deaf students, mentally disabled , autistic and anyone that had some type of problem. I used to make fun of those kids, like I said, kids can be cruel. One day the tables were turned and I was riding on the Harvey bus. It was a lesson in humility. Now I had to endure the insults. I learned over the years to ignore remarks and insults. I developed thick skin. I also learned not to judge or make fun of someone that might be a little different.

Eventually, I was put back in the regular school system but I had speech therapy up until I entered high school. During my Junior high school years I had yet to learn to 100% control my temper, add to that I was angry about being forced to wear a hearing aid, so I was still getting into fights. I can’t pinpoint when I stopped feeling self conscious about my hearing but eventually I figured who gives a sh*t. Life is too short to be angry over nothing.

[Randyman]

'The Fighter'


What would Oscar season be without a boxing movie? In 1976, there was "Rocky," a best picture winner. In 1980, there was "Raging Bull," which topped multiple critics' lists that year. In 2001, there was "Ali," a bit of a disappointment. But then in 2004, we got "Million Dollar Baby," which went on to win the award for best picture.
This year, we have "The Fighter," director David O. Russell's third collaboration with star Mark Wahlberg and the first time the director has made a film not based on his own script. And though those who have only seen the trailer may wail, "Another boxing movie?," the critics are nearly unanimous in their assurances that this one is worth seeing.
Take The Times' own Kenneth Turan, for instance. His distaste for some of the colorful characters in the life of "Irish" Mickey Ward (Wahlberg) left him initially thinking this would be another turkey. But by the final bell his mind had been changed. He cautions would-be viewers, "the film is developing strong reasons for doing things this off-putting way but it makes for heavy going in the early days."
Slate's Dana Stevens tries a different tactic, since she, too, obviously went into this film with the hard-earned skepticism of someone who's seen too many uplifting boxing movies. After the usual positive review, she wraps things up with a line you're more likely to hear from an infomercial pitchman than a film critic: "If you're still not convinced that you should see yet another uplifting sports film, let me try one more angle: 'The Fighter' is worth seeing less for its well-told inspirational story than for what you might call its emotional texture."
The New York Times' A.O. Scott also feels he's been down this path many times before, as he writes in his opening: "With the possible exception of the romantic comedy, no film genre is more strictly governed by conventions — or enslaved by clichés, if you prefer — than the boxing picture. Something similar might be said about reviews of boxing pictures, so here goes." He then allows himself to indulge in enough boxing lingo to make Gene Shalit proud: "With solid bodywork, clever feints and tremendous heart, it scores at least a TKO, by which I mean both that it falls just short of overpowering greatness — I can’t quite exclaim, 'It’s a knockout!' "
The reviewer at IrishCentral.com, Cahir O'Doherty, gushes over the film, writing, "Thanks to a tight script, flawless direction and some career-best performances from the cast, 'The Fighter' actually turns out to be much better than the sum of its parts." And to drive home how different it is from its boxing forebears, says, "Sylvester Stallone never made a film this affecting or this raw."
And from Mickey's home state of Massachusetts, the Boston Herald serves up what can only be called a split decision. A cursory glance at James Verniere's review shows that he's given it a B+, high praise indeed. But then try reading the review, which begins: "A cheesy 'Raging Bull'-'Rocky' mashup served on a hot buttered bulkie roll, David O. Russell’s 'The Fighter' is Scorsese-lite with Mark Wahlberg’s boxer Mickey Ward flanked by two performances that are as much about overacting as acting."
Wouldn't you hate to read what he has to say about a movie he really didn't like?

--Patrick Kevin Day

Yikes!!

[Randyman]

Monroe Brooks vs Roberto Duran-December 8, 1978-Madison Square Garden, NY

Monroe was a hell of a fighter but he was fighting a prime Roberto Duran, Still, he gave a good account of himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG5rzlDLyxg

Randy, I saw Brooks fight several times and he really used to infuriate me. When he wanted to box he was dazzling but it was as if he wanted to be a slugger so bad. His fight with Adolfo Viruet was there for the taking. After a rough start he was sweeping the middle rounds by outslicking the methodical Viruet, but then went looking for the KO and let the fight get away from him. In the Curry fight, again went looking to take Curry's head off. Of course, there was bad blood between the two. I still laugh thinking of Gil Clancy, interviewing the two fighters after the fight, and Brooks saying on National TV, "I know there was some bad shit between us...". But Brooks had the tools and didn't use them. Didn't Jackie McCoy train him for a time???

Scartissue

Dan, it was his pride. When he used his head he was as smooth as silk, he could fight. He could slug too when he had to but against Duran and Curry it was a bad tactical move.

[kikibalt]

As a master "kept man" I know you know how to handle negative input.
This is something I have trouble dealing with. I need to aquire that "Say what you want" attitude.
A master kept man knows how to avoid a war, I'm too quick to jump into the mud and roll around in it.
Training Monica is a full time job. She wasn't a young bride, doesn't believe something true just because I say it is.
I got used to the younger ones, they'd believe just about anything, at least for awhile.

How do I handle negatively?, I laugh at it, just as I laugh at life. You can say I'm full of laughter, I laughed when I was told I had cancer, "Really"... " I said to my doctor. Don't take life too serious, Rick, turn a negative into a positive and you won't be rolling in the mud and you will be much happier for it...

I’m the same way now Frank, but when I was growing up I used to have a bad temper. I would fight or argue at the drop of a hat. I was self conscious about my hearing when I was younger. Someone would say something and I could never be sure if I was being insulted or not. Pretty soon I realized that everyone got a kick out of seeing my confusion, so they would say something and then act like I heard wrong. Later when I had to go to a special school for the deaf I had to wear a extra large hearing aid, the box itself was about the size of a shoebox with a handle and several dials on it, the ear muffs that covered my ears were the same size as those used for hearing protection when shooting a gun. You can imagine how I felt having to wear this to class everyday and you can imagine how cruel kids can be. I was in the second grade at the time. I developed thick skin during those years, still I had a bad temper when I got older. My father gave me some good advice when he said, repeatedly “Randy, you can’t fight the whole world!” He was right.

Back then there was a bus company for kids with special needs, It was called the Harvey Bus Company. It was a small yellow bus that went to the home of all the student with special needs and took them to school. The kids that rode the bus were called Harveys (by the other students), it was filled with deaf students, mentally disabled , autistic and anyone that had some type of problem. I used to make fun of those kids, like I said, kids can be cruel. One day the tables were turned and I was riding on the Harvey bus. It was a lesson in humility. Now I had to endure the insults. I learned over the years to ignore remarks and insults. I developed thick skin. I also learned not to judge or make fun of someone that might be a little different.

Eventually, I was put back in the regular school system but I had speech therapy up until I entered high school. During my Junior high school years I had yet to learn to 100% control my temper, add to that I was angry about being forced to wear a hearing aid, so I was still getting into fights. I can’t pinpoint when I stopped feeling self conscious about my hearing but eventually I figured who gives a sh*t. Life is too short to be angry over nothing.

[raylawpc]

"The Fighter" . . .

The film was released this weekend in L.A.
I just saw it, not in a theatre, but on a DVD given a friend of mine who is a member of the Motion Picture Academy.
It will be up for serious Oscar consideration. One of the best boxing movies ever made.
Mark Wahlberg and Cristian Bale were great.

Tonight I will watch it again, this time on the big screen. I want to see it at it's best in a great theatre.

You're lucky. Doesn't open here until next weekend.

[Rick Farris]

"The Fighter" . . .

The film was released this weekend in L.A.
I just saw it, not in a theatre, but on a DVD given a friend of mine who is a member of the Motion Picture Academy.
It will be up for serious Oscar consideration. One of the best boxing movies ever made.
Mark Wahlberg and Cristian Bale were great.

Tonight I will watch it again, this time on the big screen. I want to see it at it's best in a great theatre.

You're lucky. Doesn't open here until next weekend.

It opens here on the 17th. My mistake.

[Rick Farris]

Monroe Brooks vs Roberto Duran-December 8, 1978-Madison Square Garden, NY

Monroe was a hell of a fighter but he was fighting a prime Roberto Duran, Still, he gave a good account of himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG5rzlDLyxg

Randy, I saw Brooks fight several times and he really used to infuriate me. When he wanted to box he was dazzling but it was as if he wanted to be a slugger so bad. His fight with Adolfo Viruet was there for the taking. After a rough start he was sweeping the middle rounds by outslicking the methodical Viruet, but then went looking for the KO and let the fight get away from him. In the Curry fight, again went looking to take Curry's head off. Of course, there was bad blood between the two. I still laugh thinking of Gil Clancy, interviewing the two fighters after the fight, and Brooks saying on National TV, "I know there was some bad shit between us...". But Brooks had the tools and didn't use them. Didn't Jackie McCoy train him for a time???

Scartissue

Dan, it was his pride. When he used his head he was as smooth as silk, he could fight. He could slug too when he had to but against Duran and Curry it was a bad tactical move.

Monroe Brooks . . .

I was ringside for the Curry fight.
I liked Monroe Brooks, I was introduced to him at the Olympic one night when he was on hand for ring intro before the main event.
He was a deadly puncher, and something reminded me of a few hard luck vets from just a decade prior, guys like Adolf Pruitt, L.C. Morgan . . . who were dangerous contenders just shy of a title.
When I heard he was going to fight Curry I mentioned a desire to attend, and ended up with tickets.
He got hit solid with a devistating punch. He was out cold.

[Rick Farris]

Tonight will tell a lot about Amir Khan.
Maidana is no tomato can.

[THEHAMMER321]

Tonight will tell a lot about Amir Khan.
Maidana is no tomato can.

Rick, gonna go out on a limb and pick the underdog in the fight, I have always been a sucker for a big puncher.

[Panzerfaust]

Ortiz embarrased himself again... had the fight...then gave it away

[THEHAMMER321]

Don't know about anyone else, but it is hard to beat the ref and the fighter, Joe Cortez boooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Randyman]

Don't know about anyone else, but it is hard to beat the ref and the fighter, Joe Cortez boooooooooooooooooooooooooo

If Maidana would've knocked out Kahn, Cortez probably would've taken away a point or two from him. Cortez interfered way too much and it favored Kahn. The point deduction was bullsh*t!

[kikibalt]

Its time to sent Cortez out to pasture, his time has pass....

[Randyman]

Its time to sent Cortez out to pasture, his time has pass....

[Randyman]

Ortiz didn't do much to change anyones opinion of him.

[Panzerfaust]

Its time to sent Cortez out to pasture, his time has pass....

isent putting him to sleep a bit drastic?? retirement would do
Khan did prove he had a chin,but by god so did Maidana!!