Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

Anybody on here an ''in and out hamburger guy'', I sure am, the funny thing is we didn't get them in vegas until I was in my 20s, but I remember traveling through California all through my childhood and we would always pass them but my parents would always go to mcdonalds instead so I never even tried them until they opened them in vegas, They just recently opened another California hamburger chain here, Tommy's, the best chili burgers around.

Jeri and I are big on In & Out Hamburgers and have been for years but my favorite is Crony's in East L.A. on Whittier blvd. They are similar in style and size.

I used to go to the Original Tommy's, at Beverly and Rampart, but I haven't been there in years. Might have to pay them a visit.

Randy

In & Out?
Tommy's? Not for me, but most people like it.

[Rick Farris]

isent putting him to sleep a bit drastic?? retirement would do
Khan did prove he had a chin,but by god so did Maidana!!

That's out to pasture with the cows, not killing the guy...

Although euthanasia may just be the way to go in this case. I'm just saying.

I really believe you could improve judging and ring performance if every dressing room was outfitted with a vat of acid.
Something like a hot tub, but filled with acid that would disolve flesh, bones, everything in seconds.
When a ref favors a house fighter, or reflects Alzeimers behavior like Cortez did last night, put them in the tub.
When a primadonna like Ortiz quits, soak the bastid in the vat for shameful behavior

[Rick Farris]

isent putting him to sleep a bit drastic?? retirement would do
Khan did prove he had a chin,but by god so did Maidana!!

That's out to pasture with the cows, not killing the guy...

Although euthanasia may just be the way to go in this case. I'm just saying.

You've got the right idea, Randy.

[raylawpc]

"The Fighter" . . .

The film was released this weekend in L.A.
I just saw it, not in a theatre, but on a DVD given a friend of mine who is a member of the Motion Picture Academy.
It will be up for serious Oscar consideration. One of the best boxing movies ever made.
Mark Wahlberg and Cristian Bale were great.

Tonight I will watch it again, this time on the big screen. I want to see it at it's best in a great theatre.

You're lucky. Doesn't open here until next weekend.

It opens here on the 17th. My mistake.

I had heard that they open films sometimes a week early in LA "at selected theaters," and thought you guys got lucky again. I'm looking forward to seeing it!

[Randyman]

The Deaf Kids...

In the third grade I was moved to yet another school with a similar program for the hearing impaired. It was Jersey Avenue Elementary School, also in Santa Fe Springs but within short walking distance from my home.

There were two deaf classes setup right next to each other in an isolated building. The students were about 90% boys, most of them were completely deaf, and had yet to learn any social skills, I say this not to be cruel but so you can get an idea of what they were like. Most of them behaved like animals and made guttural noises and strange sounds, they seemed almost feral. The teachers constantly had to stop the kids from choking each other to death and I mean that literally. One day my mother came to a parent-teacher conference and witnessed it herself. It was then that she decided that I didn't belong there but it would be another year and half before I would be pulled out.

There were two other boys that were hard of hearing like me, Mike and Rudy, the rest were deaf. The deaf kids were like brutes and almost inhumanly strong (for their age) and they were fierce and fiercely loyal to us. If any one even came close to me in a threatening manner the deaf kids would suddenly be there by my side ready to beat anyone up that even remotely looked at me the wrong way. I never did figure out how they knew. They were deaf but they had some type of sense, I don't know. Even at those times when I wanted to fight I couldn't. I would hear someone yell "It's the deaf kids" and everyone would scatter and that was the end of it. They were feared. I never felt more protected in my life. This was in the early 1960's. I think about those guys sometimes. I hope they're all doing well.

[raylawpc]

Don't know about anyone else, but it is hard to beat the ref and the fighter, Joe Cortez boooooooooooooooooooooooooo

If Maidana would've knocked out Kahn, Cortez probably would've taken away a point or two from him. Cortez interfered way too much and it favored Kahn. The point deduction was bullsh*t!

Cortez is a graduate of the "It's all about me, not the fighters" school of refereeing. Sadly, that seems to be the style of refereeing these days . . .

I agree, Randy and Paulie, the point deduction was BS.

[Rick Farris]

Well done to Amir Khan, who sucked it up and got the win. I respect him for coming through against a puncher.

I agree Bennie, Maidana firmly tested Kahn's will and resolve, as well as his chin but for a few moments there things were pretty shaky for Kahn. If Khan and Ortiz were to fight, Ortiz wouldn't make it to the final bell. Anyone disagree?

I'd bet that Khan KO's Ortiz in a one-sided fight.
Oscar promotes both and could do himself and the public a favor by making this match.
Ortiz seems typical of the attitude of boxers that come from the Garcia stable in Oxnard, i.e. Vargas, etc.
They make a lot of noise, just like an empty can, and never finish on top.

[Chuck1052]

Randy, I had a hearing aid for one or two years as a small child. My hearing aid was in a sheath made of cloth, which I wore like a necklace. At the time, I had a habit of losing things, the components of the hearing aid being no exception. I remember that the principal of my school searched the grounds for one of the components. Believe me, my first grade teacher let me know about it.

Due to my hearing problem, I had trouble learning how to talk and got off to a bad start in school. My first grade teacher wasn't sure that I make it through her class successfully. I really wasn't reading a lot on my own until I was in the fourth grade. While going on to get a B.A. in history at U.C. Santa Barbara and never being held back a grade, I never was that good of a student, most of it due to a lack of dedication and discipline on my part, not my bad start.

- Chuck Johnston

[Rick Farris]

You're lucky. Doesn't open here until next weekend.

It opens here on the 17th. My mistake.

I had heard that they open films sometimes a week early in LA "at selected theaters," and thought you guys got lucky again. I'm looking forward to seeing it!

A friend of mine is a member of the Motion Pic Academy and receives DVD's of films of Academy Award consideration.
I saw it the other night after work. Now I want to see it on a state-of-the-art screen. It has a gritty look.

[Rick Farris]

We are closing in 31,000 posts.
This train just keeps rolling along.

[Randyman]

Randy, I had a hearing aid for one or two years as a small child. My hearing aid was in a sheath made of cloth, which I wore like a necklace. At the time, I had a habit of losing things, the components of the hearing aid being no exception. I remember that the principal of my school searched the grounds for one of the components. Believe me, my first grade teacher let me know about it.

Due to my hearing problem, I had trouble learning how to talk and got off to a bad start in school. My first grade teacher wasn't sure that I make it through her class successfully. I really wasn't reading a lot on my own until I was in the fourth grade. While going on to get a B.A. in history at U.C. Santa Barbara and never being held back a grade, I never was that good of a student, most of it due to a lack of dedication and discipline on my part, not my bad start.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, I lost my first hearing aid. It was1961 or 1962. My father paid $600.00 for it. Back then that was a lot of money. My father was an upholsterer. He made good money but we weren't rich by any stretch of the imagination. They believed I lost it on purpose. My father was pissed but he immediately bought another one.

I used to take my lunch in a brown paper bag. I had the habit of taking my hearing aid off during lunch and putting it inside the little box it came in and then I would put the box inside the lunch bag.

One day one during lunch after I had eaten and was in the school yard playing, a teacher walked up to me and asked "Randy, where is your hearing aid?" I panicked, I mean I really panicked. In that instant I saw my father and I was struck with fear. I realized that I left it in the lunch bag and I threw the bag in the trash. I ran back to the lunch tables. The teacher called for me but in my panic I ignored her. She yelled at some boys to stop me but I ran right through them. I was driven by fear. I was going through the trash cans, and hyperventilating while I was searching. The teacher comes up to me and realizing I was in a panic looked me in the eye and said "Randy, Randy, it's okay, the janitor found it" I'm sorry, I should have said that right away!" I was still gasping for air an hour later.

[Randyman]

We are closing in 31,000 posts.
This train just keeps rolling along.

[Randyman]

Nobody's mentioned the fights on Showtime last night. This kid by the name of Abner Mares stole the show and of all the fights last night, both on HBO and Showtime, Mares fight with Vic Darchiyan was the best. For such a young and relatively inexperienced fighter he was amazing. He took everything from Darchinyan and gave it back in spades. He had a nasty cut on the hairline over his left eye but he kept his composure. The bantamweight tournament is off to a much better start that the Super Six Super middleweight Tourney. I was really impressed by mares! Check the guide for a replay on Showtime. It's worth watching. I didn't see the second fight, it was on too late and I had to get up this morning to go to work.

[kikibalt]

I watch the fights on HBO last night, after the fights I went to bed, read till about 11, I woke up about 4:30 this morning and I haven't been able to get going, my mind don't want to work, guess I'll take another nap....

[Rick Farris]

Nobody's mentioned the fights on Showtime last night. This kid by the name of Abner Mares stole the show and of all the fights last night, both on HBO and Showtime, Mares fight with Vic Darchiyan was the best. For such a young and relatively inexperienced fighter he was amazing. He took everything from Darchinyan and gave it back in spades. He had a nasty cut on the hairline over his left eye but he kept his composure. The bantamweight tournament is off to a much better start that the Super Six Super middleweight Tourney. I was really impressed by mares! Check the guide for a replay on Showtime. It's worth watching. I didn't see the second fight, it was on too late and I had to get up this morning to go to work.

Randy . . . I fell asleep on the sofa after Kahn's fight. Never got to the SHOWTIME card that followed.
I hoped that Mares would win. I don't have much confidence in what I've seen from Armenian boxers to date.
They are usually strong, try to act like they are crazy, like to bully an opponent who let's them.
These guys below the border don't play into that crap. They are real men, just there to fight and win.
I'll watch the fight a little later. Thanks for the reminder.

[Rick Farris]

Randy, I had a hearing aid for one or two years as a small child. My hearing aid was in a sheath made of cloth, which I wore like a necklace. At the time, I had a habit of losing things, the components of the hearing aid being no exception. I remember that the principal of my school searched the grounds for one of the components. Believe me, my first grade teacher let me know about it.

Due to my hearing problem, I had trouble learning how to talk and got off to a bad start in school. My first grade teacher wasn't sure that I make it through her class successfully. I really wasn't reading a lot on my own until I was in the fourth grade. While going on to get a B.A. in history at U.C. Santa Barbara and never being held back a grade, I never was that good of a student, most of it due to a lack of dedication and discipline on my part, not my bad start.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, I lost my first hearing aid. It was1961 or 1962. My father paid $600.00 for it. Back then that was a lot of money. My father was an upholsterer. He made good money but we weren't rich by any stretch of the imagination. They believed I lost it on purpose. My father was pissed but he immediately bought another one.

I used to take my lunch in a brown paper bag. I had the habit of taking my hearing aid off during lunch and putting it inside the little box it came in and then I would put the box inside the lunch bag.

One day one during lunch after I had eaten and was in the school yard playing, a teacher walked up to me and asked "Randy, where is your hearing aid?" I panicked, I mean I really panicked. In that instant I saw my father and I was struck with fear. I realized that I left it in the lunch bag and I threw the bag in the trash. I ran back to the lunch tables. The teacher called for me but in my panic I ignored her. She yelled at some boys to stop me but I ran right through them. I was driven by fear. I was going through the trash cans, and hyperventilating while I was searching. The teacher comes up to me and realizing I was in a panic looked me in the eye and said "Randy, Randy, it's okay, the janitor found it" I'm sorry, I should have said that right away!" I was still gasping for air an hour later.

Wow!

[Randyman]

Nobody's mentioned the fights on Showtime last night. This kid by the name of Abner Mares stole the show and of all the fights last night, both on HBO and Showtime, Mares fight with Vic Darchiyan was the best. For such a young and relatively inexperienced fighter he was amazing. He took everything from Darchinyan and gave it back in spades. He had a nasty cut on the hairline over his left eye but he kept his composure. The bantamweight tournament is off to a much better start that the Super Six Super middleweight Tourney. I was really impressed by mares! Check the guide for a replay on Showtime. It's worth watching. I didn't see the second fight, it was on too late and I had to get up this morning to go to work.

Randy . . . I fell asleep on the sofa after Kahn's fight. Never got to the SHOWTIME card that followed.
I hoped that Mares would win. I don't have much confidence in what I've seen from Armenian boxers to date.
They are usually strong, try to act like they are crazy, like to bully an opponent who let's them.
These guys below the border don't play into that crap. They are real men, just there to fight and win.
I'll watch the fight a little later. Thanks for the reminder.

Speaking of guys that know how to fight like men, that would include Argentine boxers. These guys are brutally tough. Any talk about tough, fighters would have to include guys like Luis Angel (Wild Bull of the Pampas) Firpo, who knocked my boyhood idol, Jack Dempsey out of the ring, or Oscar Bonavena, Victor Galindez, Jorge Ahumada, and the legendary Carlos Monzon. Add to that list Marcos Maidana, a proven warrior. He gave Amir Kahn all the hell he could handle in a great, but losing effort. Their courage has become their trademark!
(I'm going by memory here so I know I forgot some names)

[Randyman]

Nobody's mentioned the fights on Showtime last night. This kid by the name of Abner Mares stole the show and of all the fights last night, both on HBO and Showtime, Mares fight with Vic Darchiyan was the best. For such a young and relatively inexperienced fighter he was amazing. He took everything from Darchinyan and gave it back in spades. He had a nasty cut on the hairline over his left eye but he kept his composure. The bantamweight tournament is off to a much better start that the Super Six Super middleweight Tourney. I was really impressed by mares! Check the guide for a replay on Showtime. It's worth watching. I didn't see the second fight, it was on too late and I had to get up this morning to go to work.

Randy . . . I fell asleep on the sofa after Kahn's fight. Never got to the SHOWTIME card that followed.
I hoped that Mares would win. I don't have much confidence in what I've seen from Armenian boxers to date.
They are usually strong, try to act like they are crazy, like to bully an opponent who let's them.
These guys below the border don't play into that crap. They are real men, just there to fight and win.
I'll watch the fight a little later. Thanks for the reminder.

For Darchinyan, everything you said is true. After the fight he complained to no end how the ref screwed him and caused him to lose. The truth is the referee was doing to Mares , what Cortez did to Maidana. A point was taken away from Mares for a low blow but Darchinyan was continually allowed to hold, and stiff arm Mares. Mares corner should have raised hell. You'll see what I mean if you get a chance to see the replay.

For highlights go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cgDQCaskes

[Rick Farris]

Nobody's mentioned the fights on Showtime last night. This kid by the name of Abner Mares stole the show and of all the fights last night, both on HBO and Showtime, Mares fight with Vic Darchiyan was the best. For such a young and relatively inexperienced fighter he was amazing. He took everything from Darchinyan and gave it back in spades. He had a nasty cut on the hairline over his left eye but he kept his composure. The bantamweight tournament is off to a much better start that the Super Six Super middleweight Tourney. I was really impressed by mares! Check the guide for a replay on Showtime. It's worth watching. I didn't see the second fight, it was on too late and I had to get up this morning to go to work.

Randy . . . I fell asleep on the sofa after Kahn's fight. Never got to the SHOWTIME card that followed.
I hoped that Mares would win. I don't have much confidence in what I've seen from Armenian boxers to date.
They are usually strong, try to act like they are crazy, like to bully an opponent who let's them.
These guys below the border don't play into that crap. They are real men, just there to fight and win.
I'll watch the fight a little later. Thanks for the reminder.

Speaking of guys that know how to fight like men, that would include Argentine boxers. These guys are brutally tough. Any talk about tough, fighters would have to include guys like Luis Angel (Wild Bull of the Pampas) Firpo, who knocked my boyhood idol, Jack Dempsey out of the ring, or Oscar Bonavena, Victor Galindez, Jorge Ahumada, and the legendary Carlos Monzon. Add to that list Marcos Maidana, a proven warrior. He gave Amir Kahn all the hell he could handle in a great, but losing effort. Their courage has become their trademark!
(I'm going by memory here so I know I forgot some names)

Wild Bulls . . .

Very true, Randy. Maidana really brought the fact home when he gelded Victor Ortiz
John Bardelli and I just had such a conversation not long ago.
They come out swinging. I loved the way Victor Galendez spanked Mike Rossman.
Rossman's face was etched with horror as he tried to stave off the brutal Galendez.
Icing on the cake was after the bout was stopped, Rossman's galant little bro took a shot at the Argentine fighter. Big mistake!
Galendez grabbed the brother around the throat and threw him to the ground.
Some true Wild Men have emerged from Argentina.

[Randyman]

This is my favorite Christmas song of all time. It was father's favorite and it has become my kids favorite. I can get teary eyed listening to this song. Old memories come flooding back. Good memories.

This Thursday, December 16, would have been my father's 87th birthday. He died May 7th, 1981, the day before my 27th birthday. I'm not ashamed to say that I still miss him.

White Christmas by Bing Crosby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA45TnJQxhU

[kikibalt]

This is my favorite Christmas song of all time. It was father's favorite and it has become my kids favorite. I can get teary eyed listening to this song. Old memories come flooding back. Good memories.

This Thursday, December 16, would have been my father's 87th birthday. He died May 7th, 1981, the day before my 27th birthday. I'm not ashamed to say that I still miss him.

White Christmas by Bing Crosby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA45TnJQxhU

Randy, You don't have nothing to be ashamed about.....

[kikibalt]

Las Mananitas
Little Joe y La Familia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA5fAC_ke_c

I want to dedicate this song to my wife, Connie, on our 56th Wedding Anniversary, In those 56 years we have learned to accept and give our love to each other without hiding, without treating it as if it was some sort of weakness, that and the fact that we can banter with each other I think has help us stay together this many years. And Babe, I still want to see 70 of marriage...

Love You Babe....

[bennie]

Happy Anniversary to Frankie and Connie.

[kikibalt]

Happy Anniversary to Frankie and Connie.

Thanks Bennie. It seems like it was only a few short years ago that we were getting married..

[bennie]

Is it your birthday as well, Frankie?