Lindsay/Simpson
-
alexpaterson
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 4310
- Joined: 22 Feb 2009, 11:22
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
What a fight, Simpson is a real credit to Scottish boxing. I had it 115-113 Simpson but when the cards were being read out I was thinking he's not going to get it! But luckily they had 3 good, experienced judges
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Congrats John Simpson. Must be the most deserving current lonsdale holder!
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
well done john, get a rematch wi smith and get ur commenealth back 
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
he certainly does, his 4th win in a british fight (lindsay, morris x2 and barrett)BIGMARK wrote:sgtcecil wrote:Congrats John Simpson. Must be the most deserving current lonsdale holder!and i think i'm right in saying he gets to keep it out right
good guy and a credit to the sport
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Simpson vs Smith for British and Commenwealth would be good or maybe Simpson move to European title
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Smith got Lucky against simpson ,Smith never boxed Lindsay to dangerous after his close call v Simpson so he has proved he the best Featherweight in Uk without a doubt maybe Smith could box appleby and Simpson moves on to european cause if he loses the euro tilt Smith will still be around domestic if he lost so that or if he win he moves up to world level its all in simpons handsGazmac81 wrote:Simpson vs Smith for British and Commenwealth would be good or maybe Simpson move to European title
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Get your facts right!Noelsy wrote:Smith got Lucky against simpson ,Smith never boxed Lindsay to dangerous after his close call v Simpson so he has proved he the best Featherweight in Uk without a doubt maybe Smith could box appleby and Simpson moves on to european cause if he loses the euro tilt Smith will still be around domestic if he lost so that or if he win he moves up to world level its all in simpons handsGazmac81 wrote:Simpson vs Smith for British and Commenwealth would be good or maybe Simpson move to European title
Smith fvcked his hand early against Simpson, and still won!! He didn't fight Lindsay because of his hand, not because Lindsay was too dangerous. You loon.
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Congratulations big man!! Simpson is a true warrior - now one of my favourite boxers on the British scene!billy bessey wrote:what a warrior simpson is please dont ruin a brilliant fight judges
Smith v Simpson - Echo Arena - British and Commonwealth titles - make it so!!
-
toomanyshots
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 155
- Joined: 14 Aug 2008, 17:28
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
John has the belt outright, is it not time he got a shot at the European at least!!!!
He would be well worthy of a world title shot, lesser fighters have had shots and won world titles!!!!!!
Come-on lets give a TRUE road warrior a a bit of a break
He would be well worthy of a world title shot, lesser fighters have had shots and won world titles!!!!!!
Come-on lets give a TRUE road warrior a a bit of a break
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
What about Swifty? Does he take an easy fight whilst Simpson goes for the European?toomanyshots wrote:John has the belt outright, is it not time he got a shot at the European at least!!!!
He would be well worthy of a world title shot, lesser fighters have had shots and won world titles!!!!!!
Come-on lets give a TRUE road warrior a a bit of a break
The shot at the British was Ste's in the first place. Simpson thought he won the first fight. A rematch at the Echo for all the glory makes sense.
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
jBacca wrote:What about Swifty? Does he take an easy fight whilst Simpson goes for the European?toomanyshots wrote:John has the belt outright, is it not time he got a shot at the European at least!!!!
He would be well worthy of a world title shot, lesser fighters have had shots and won world titles!!!!!!
Come-on lets give a TRUE road warrior a a bit of a break
The shot at the British was Ste's in the first place. Simpson thought he won the first fight. A rematch at the Echo for all the glory makes sense.
Simpson Doesnt need Smith now only pride !! Simpson for the euro or maybe even a world title shot cause Lindsay was ranked 6th by one of the world bodys so maybe the champ look at john simpson for a defence
fingers crossed
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
So you think Simpson will be satisfied with being number 2 in the country? That's what he is whilst Swifty has that win over him.Noelsy wrote:jBacca wrote:What about Swifty? Does he take an easy fight whilst Simpson goes for the European?toomanyshots wrote:John has the belt outright, is it not time he got a shot at the European at least!!!!
He would be well worthy of a world title shot, lesser fighters have had shots and won world titles!!!!!!
Come-on lets give a TRUE road warrior a a bit of a break
The shot at the British was Ste's in the first place. Simpson thought he won the first fight. A rematch at the Echo for all the glory makes sense.
Simpson Doesnt need Smith now only pride !! Simpson for the euro or maybe even a world title shot cause Lindsay was ranked 6th by one of the world bodys so maybe the champ look at john simpson for a defence
fingers crossed
I wish Simpson all the best. Cracking fighter, had him beating Lindsay by 5. Simpson has the warrior mentality, and I can't see him not wanting to fight Smith again.
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
jBacca wrote:So you think Simpson will be satisfied with being number 2 in the country? That's what he is whilst Swifty has that win over him.Noelsy wrote:jBacca wrote: What about Swifty? Does he take an easy fight whilst Simpson goes for the European?
The shot at the British was Ste's in the first place. Simpson thought he won the first fight. A rematch at the Echo for all the glory makes sense.
Simpson Doesnt need Smith now only pride !! Simpson for the euro or maybe even a world title shot cause Lindsay was ranked 6th by one of the world bodys so maybe the champ look at john simpson for a defence
fingers crossed
I wish Simpson all the best. Cracking fighter, had him beating Lindsay by 5. Simpson has the warrior mentality, and I can't see him not wanting to fight Smith again.
Hes Not number 2 he is the britsih champ ,smith hurt his had fair play but he got a bad decision over Simpson everyone knows John goes on boxes for the euro or what ever is out there swifty will still be at domestic level ? yes so then the fight makes sense Simspon will beat smith with 2 hands the next time imo . that if the judges dont cheat him again !!
Jbacca have up most respect for swifty but hands downs simpson beats him
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
I had Smith winning by two in a very close fight. A lot of people had Simpson winning, but a lot had Smith winning too. There was no robbery. There was no cheating by the judges. Smith has a legit, recent win over Simpson, and is number one in the country.Noelsy wrote:jBacca wrote:So you think Simpson will be satisfied with being number 2 in the country? That's what he is whilst Swifty has that win over him.Noelsy wrote:
Simpson Doesnt need Smith now only pride !! Simpson for the euro or maybe even a world title shot cause Lindsay was ranked 6th by one of the world bodys so maybe the champ look at john simpson for a defence
fingers crossed
I wish Simpson all the best. Cracking fighter, had him beating Lindsay by 5. Simpson has the warrior mentality, and I can't see him not wanting to fight Smith again.
Hes Not number 2 he is the britsih champ ,smith hurt his had fair play but he got a bad decision over Simpson everyone knows John goes on boxes for the euro or what ever is out there swifty will still be at domestic level ? yes so then the fight makes sense Simspon will beat smith with 2 hands the next time imo . that if the judges dont cheat him again !!
Jbacca have up most respect for swifty but hands downs simpson beats him
Next fight for Smith has to be the British, would Simpson relinquish the belt?
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
'So you think Simpson will be satisfied with being number 2 in the country? That's what he is whilst Swifty has that win over him.'
The thing is I cant think of many rounds in that fight Smith won clearly. Simpson was the boss that night even though he looked sluggish. The majority of people think Simpson won, including the entire Sky team. The perception is that Simpson won that fight (which he did) and he has nothing to prove. With one Smith having been beaten I would suggest sending John up to the Echo to finish the job would be a very risky move for Warren. Likewise I dont actually like that fight for Simpson beacause a) it would be in Liverpool and b) Smith does have the skill to beat him.
I'd like to see him take a straightforward defence at the next Burns card and then have a pop at the European. If there is any fighter who deserves to be thoughtfully matched and treated like a commodity rather than an opponent its John Simpson.
One last point on Smith- I find him and his attitude impressive. But sending him to Belfast would have been a bad, bad piece of match-making at that stage of his career. Still cant believe they sent Appelby over there! The first thing I said after Smith-Simpson was that John would be getting the Lindsay fight: it was clear Smith would not be risked again after such a fortunate victory, especially when you consider that Lindsay was being veiwed as a world level fighter.
The thing is I cant think of many rounds in that fight Smith won clearly. Simpson was the boss that night even though he looked sluggish. The majority of people think Simpson won, including the entire Sky team. The perception is that Simpson won that fight (which he did) and he has nothing to prove. With one Smith having been beaten I would suggest sending John up to the Echo to finish the job would be a very risky move for Warren. Likewise I dont actually like that fight for Simpson beacause a) it would be in Liverpool and b) Smith does have the skill to beat him.
I'd like to see him take a straightforward defence at the next Burns card and then have a pop at the European. If there is any fighter who deserves to be thoughtfully matched and treated like a commodity rather than an opponent its John Simpson.
One last point on Smith- I find him and his attitude impressive. But sending him to Belfast would have been a bad, bad piece of match-making at that stage of his career. Still cant believe they sent Appelby over there! The first thing I said after Smith-Simpson was that John would be getting the Lindsay fight: it was clear Smith would not be risked again after such a fortunate victory, especially when you consider that Lindsay was being veiwed as a world level fighter.
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
It was a decent fight. It was a shame from Lindsay's viewpoint, he just was not at the races tonight. Probably his worst performacne to date and it cost him heavily.
Fair play to Simpson, he deserved it.
Fair play to Simpson, he deserved it.
Last edited by Crease on 15 Dec 2010, 21:13, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
I thought it was the opposite mate. Smith for me won the clear rounds, with the rest being wars. From what I can remember Smith won 3 of the first 4 comfortably. Then 2 of the next 3. Had a big 10th (I think it was), and I gave him another somewhere else, winning it 7-5.Trojans44 wrote:'So you think Simpson will be satisfied with being number 2 in the country? That's what he is whilst Swifty has that win over him.'
The thing is I cant think of many rounds in that fight Smith won clearly. Simpson was the boss that night even though he looked sluggish. The majority of people think Simpson won, including the entire Sky team. The perception is that Simpson won that fight (which he did) and he has nothing to prove. With one Smith having been beaten I would suggest sending John up to the Echo to finish the job would be a very risky move for Warren. Likewise I dont actually like that fight for Simpson beacause a) it would be in Liverpool and b) Smith does have the skill to beat him.
I'd like to see him take a straightforward defence at the next Burns card and then have a pop at the European. If there is any fighter who deserves to be thoughtfully matched and treated like a commodity rather than an opponent its John Simpson.
One last point on Smith- I find him and his attitude impressive. But sending him to Belfast would have been a bad, bad piece of match-making at that stage of his career. Still cant believe they sent Appelby over there! The first thing I said after Smith-Simpson was that John would be getting the Lindsay fight: it was clear Smith would not be risked again after such a fortunate victory, especially when you consider that Lindsay was being veiwed as a world level fighter.
Surely a fight at the Echo would be better for John, with him looking more impressive away from home? I fancy Smith for the win again, and by a better margin, providing both hands hold up (something people seem to forget from the first fight).
Smith would have fought Lindsay tonight if it weren't for the hand, fella. No chance Warren would have stopped Ste from travelling - Swifty had earn't it.
Good point about Simpson being just an opponent. I do feel he's been hard done by in the past and wouldn't resent him getting a shot at a higher accolade, despite believe there's a score to settle domestically. Simpson is the type of fighter that appeals to all boxing fans (bit like Martin Power). He's a warrior, and despite having been unlucky in the past, he gets on with it and has achieved the position he's in now through hard work. All the best to him.
-
slapbangwhallop
- Cruiserweight
- Posts: 2031
- Joined: 13 Dec 2010, 08:27
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Lindsay drops to first defeat
http://boxing-ireland.com/20101215_mart ... on_62.html
I scored it 115-113 to Simpson

http://boxing-ireland.com/20101215_mart ... on_62.html
I scored it 115-113 to Simpson
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Lindsay shouldn't let the head fall. He needs 3 or 4 good wins next year and he'll be on the European title track.
But ti shjas to stay busy, all this 9 months for a fight just isn't enough.![[icon_shame.gif] :shame:](./images/smilies/icon_shame.gif)
But ti shjas to stay busy, all this 9 months for a fight just isn't enough.
-
Old bones Ian
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 11805
- Joined: 13 Jul 2004, 07:33
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Well done Simpson, he just keeps on going.
In his career he's had 29 fights, facing 10 boxers who had unbeaten records, and only faced 6 opponents with losing records.
Shows that he hasn't had it easy.
In his career he's had 29 fights, facing 10 boxers who had unbeaten records, and only faced 6 opponents with losing records.
Shows that he hasn't had it easy.
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Simpson is the best domestic fighter since the days of Clinton McKenzie.
-
el_grande_mauro_mina
- Lightweight
- Posts: 11215
- Joined: 24 Dec 2017, 11:54
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
He is a domestic version of Julio Cesar Chavez - Ricky Burns got a world title shot on less - why not John Simpson? He may not win but he will go out on his shield - unlike that twat parcel force! ![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
I was delighted for John: I feel he's been on the wrong end of several dubious decisions over the years. But as others have said, you have to have a lot of time for his attitude: he just gets on with it, and doesn't give an inch.
Martin had the number 1 EBU spot before last night, so presumably John will take this. Martin also had a number 6 ranking with the IBF. But I would imagine an EBU final eliminator would now be relatively easy to make, and would be the route to take, unless John's pride tells him to go in with Smith again.
Whatever, it's impossible to imagine John in a boring fight! Hats off to him!
Martin had the number 1 EBU spot before last night, so presumably John will take this. Martin also had a number 6 ranking with the IBF. But I would imagine an EBU final eliminator would now be relatively easy to make, and would be the route to take, unless John's pride tells him to go in with Smith again.
Whatever, it's impossible to imagine John in a boring fight! Hats off to him!
Last edited by nh1 on 16 Dec 2010, 08:03, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
Great fight last night! Simpson's probably my favourite domestic level fighter, he always puts it on the line and he always gives great value for money. Really pleased for John.
Judges always get a bashing on here and quite rightly so in alot of instances, but I think they should all be commended for last nights work. It was a close fight that Simpson definitely won (narrowly) and despite him being on away turf the judges all got the right result. Howard Davies, John Keane and Richie Davies..... I salute you on last nights work
John's always gonna struggle with a boxer-mover type, but very few in the world will beat him at the weight if they're gonna stand in front of him, rock solid, iron will and fantastic engine. Respect!
Judges always get a bashing on here and quite rightly so in alot of instances, but I think they should all be commended for last nights work. It was a close fight that Simpson definitely won (narrowly) and despite him being on away turf the judges all got the right result. Howard Davies, John Keane and Richie Davies..... I salute you on last nights work
John's always gonna struggle with a boxer-mover type, but very few in the world will beat him at the weight if they're gonna stand in front of him, rock solid, iron will and fantastic engine. Respect!
Re: Lindsay/Simpson
I thought he was always going to be just shy of domestic title class when he lost pretty comprehensively to Steven Foster Jnr - my word he has comeback from that.
Hats off to Lindsay also in an outstanding effort in defeat. I thought Simpson was a clear deserving winner - glad justice has been done. He could count himself possibly unlucky in 4 other decision losses.
Hats off to Lindsay also in an outstanding effort in defeat. I thought Simpson was a clear deserving winner - glad justice has been done. He could count himself possibly unlucky in 4 other decision losses.