WARREN STILL CONFIDENT ON WBA

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 24 May 2005, 11:18

http://www.allegedly.tv/fw4/viewArtic ... ticle=2059

No way would it be easier to deal with King than James Tomey.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 May 2005, 13:06

Are either even ranked in the WBA? I think Valuevs next in line for a mandatory anyway

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 24 May 2005, 13:09

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Are either even ranked in the WBA? I think Valuevs next in line for a mandatory anyway

It´s either Valuev or an eliminator with Valuev. Frankieboy had a nice drean these days.....Valuev-Williams would be nice, too.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 24 May 2005, 13:25

Valuev would pummel Williams easily, he couldnt reach 6'7 Klitschko's chin how on earth would he land on Valuev?

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 24 May 2005, 13:46

nickd wrote:Valuev would pummel Williams easily, he couldnt reach 6'7 Klitschko's chin how on earth would he land on Valuev?

I don´t see that much fighters who could beat Valuev.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 24 May 2005, 14:18

BubiScholz wrote:
nickd wrote:Valuev would pummel Williams easily, he couldnt reach 6'7 Klitschko's chin how on earth would he land on Valuev?
I don´t see that much fighters who could beat Valuev.

Needs to be someone who can stay in the fight for a few rounds. I doubt very much Valuev would have the stamina for a long hard fight. He's had long fights but they've been one sided. In a tough fight I think he'd run out of gas in the second half of the fight.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 25 May 2005, 16:36

Neither Williams or Skelton have really shown me they could beat either Ruiz or Valuev. For me this fight is a good domestic scrap to look forward to but not much more than that really, neither guy is likely to develop into a serious world title contender at this stage. Maybe the winner could have a legitimate crack at the EBU title once Hoffman and Sprott have sorted that one out, but should Sprott win I can't see people queuing to see Williams v Sprott III or Skelton v Sprott II.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 25 May 2005, 16:40

Chopping Right wrote:Neither Williams or Skelton have really shown me they could beat either Ruiz or Valuev. For me this fight is a good domestic scrap to look forward to but not much more than that really, neither guy is likely to develop into a serious world title contender at this stage. Maybe the winner could have a legitimate crack at the EBU title once Hoffman and Sprott have sorted that one out, but should Sprott win I can't see people queuing to see Williams v Sprott III or Skelton v Sprott II.

It would be Williams v Sprott IV!!!

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 25 May 2005, 16:44

nickd wrote:
Chopping Right wrote:Neither Williams or Skelton have really shown me they could beat either Ruiz or Valuev. For me this fight is a good domestic scrap to look forward to but not much more than that really, neither guy is likely to develop into a serious world title contender at this stage. Maybe the winner could have a legitimate crack at the EBU title once Hoffman and Sprott have sorted that one out, but should Sprott win I can't see people queuing to see Williams v Sprott III or Skelton v Sprott II.
It would be Williams v Sprott IV!!!

Oh aye it would. Even more "mouthwatering".

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 25 May 2005, 18:30

No thanks. Although that is pretty much the limit of Williams' abilities.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 26 May 2005, 08:06

BubiScholz wrote:
nickd wrote:Valuev would pummel Williams easily, he couldnt reach 6'7 Klitschko's chin how on earth would he land on Valuev?
I don´t see that much fighters who could beat Valuev.

Me either apart from the obvious one....

.....AAAAuuuuuddddldlllllllleeeeeyyyyyy

J · Post by J » 26 May 2005, 08:08

Skelton has the best style to give valuev the most problems of the brits.

plus he aint scared of anyone.

having saiud that still think valuev would win.

dve3333 · Post by **dve3333** » 26 May 2005, 08:16

BubiScholz wrote: I don´t see that much fighters who could beat Valuev.

We will find that out once he faces something other than a body

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 26 May 2005, 08:53

He's No 1 for the WBA so he can fight Ruiz.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 26 May 2005, 11:39

J wrote:Skelton has the best style to give valuev the most problems of the brits.

plus he aint scared of anyone.

having saiud that still think valuev would win.

I'd love to see Skelton-Valuev

As you say I don't think Skelton would be intimidated one bit

J · Post by J » 26 May 2005, 11:43

dont think matt woudl be intimidated if you rolled him in chicken blood and left him in a lions enclosure.

blokes just doesnt understand fear.

shame he hasnt got better boxing skills really he has everthing else, desire, work rate, chin, hunger, instinct.

would have loved to have seen what he would have done if he had been ten years younger when he tirned pro in time to learn a more refined style.

you may question his skills but the rest is there.
bit unfortunate really cos skills are pretty important.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 26 May 2005, 11:56

Max Molyneux wrote:He's No 1 for the WBA so he can fight Ruiz.

The WBA has not yet decided if Valuev has to fight an Eliminator first. Regarding the new ranking it could be interesting:

1. Valuev
2. Rahman
3. Barett
4. Colonel Sanders
5. Brock

Rahman and Barret are fighting for the WBC Interim title. So it would be the Colonel to fight Valueb in an Eliminator. And he ie IMO one of the handfull guys who could beat Valuev, provided he is fit. Bring on the Colonel and he will be the first guy for a hard chin test at least....

J · Post by J » 26 May 2005, 11:58

sanders is finished has been for some time mate.
cant see him taking on valuev myself, though ive been wrong before.

numerous times

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 26 May 2005, 12:05

J wrote:sanders is finished has been for some time mate.
cant see him taking on valuev myself, though ive been wrong before.

numerous times

Regarding some rumours UBP, where he is still under contract, has sent a fitness coach to South Africa.....

Maybe he could re-motivate and comes back in the same shape as in the Wladi-fight. I woulod like to watch how Nicolai reacts on the bombs of the Colonel.

J · Post by J » 26 May 2005, 12:07

but he would ponly be good for a few rounds, if he cant get motivated to fight Viltai i cant see him getitng jeed up for an eliminator can you.

plus another 18 months has passed he must be knocking on now.

he should stick to golf now and look back on a decent if not stellar career.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 26 May 2005, 12:32

J wrote:but he would ponly be good for a few rounds, if he cant get motivated to fight Viltai i cant see him getitng jeed up for an eliminator can you.

plus another 18 months has passed he must be knocking on now.

he should stick to golf now and look back on a decent if not stellar career.

he boxed at the end of the last year on a spotlight/UBP-event but i also doubt it. i just wonder why he is ranked so good.

Maybe Sanders is one of the most underachieved Boxers of all times........

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 26 May 2005, 15:50

Id love to see what happens when Valuev is hit clean on the jaw by a bomb.. Think the ropes could hold him up if he stumbled/fell onto them?

Or even better if it had no effect on him at all

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 26 May 2005, 15:57

Smit wrote:Id love to see what happens when Valuev is hit clean on the jaw by a bomb.. Think the ropes could hold him up if he stumbled/fell onto them?

Or even better if it had no effect on him at all

From what I've seen he does get hit on the chin plenty, elusive he ain't. So far with no effect from the assorted collection he has beaten, obviously against a really big puncher we'd have to see. Unfortunately for John Ruiz he ain't no big puncher so I think we'll see him avoid Valuev for as long as possible.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 27 May 2005, 04:36

Chopping Right wrote:
Smit wrote:Id love to see what happens when Valuev is hit clean on the jaw by a bomb.. Think the ropes could hold him up if he stumbled/fell onto them?

Or even better if it had no effect on him at all
From what I've seen he does get hit on the chin plenty, elusive he ain't. So far with no effect from the assorted collection he has beaten, obviously against a really big puncher we'd have to see. Unfortunately for John Ruiz he ain't no big puncher so I think we'll see him avoid Valuev for as long as possible.

Ruiz should wrestle with a bear as a warm-up for Valuev

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 27 May 2005, 05:15

BubiScholz wrote:
Chopping Right wrote:
Smit wrote:Id love to see what happens when Valuev is hit clean on the jaw by a bomb.. Think the ropes could hold him up if he stumbled/fell onto them?

Or even better if it had no effect on him at all
From what I've seen he does get hit on the chin plenty, elusive he ain't. So far with no effect from the assorted collection he has beaten, obviously against a really big puncher we'd have to see. Unfortunately for John Ruiz he ain't no big puncher so I think we'll see him avoid Valuev for as long as possible.
Ruiz should wrestle with a bear as a warm-up for Valuev

I'd pay to see that.