Lucian Bute's next fight, the first on his new deal with Showtime @ShoSports, is supposed to be March 19. Possible opponent: Brian Magee.
marcianofan wrote:Ew I hope this isn't made, or Bute might not be ranked in the top 2 after the Super Six...the losing finalist will probably surpass him in terms of resume. I know a lot of the top guys are out of the picture, but this guy is like #21 in my opinion (unproven prospects excluded). Bute should try to fight a Stieglitz or Bika He makes the Brinkley mismatch look like an ideal match-up, at least from an accomplishment perspective. I've never seen Magee fight to know how he actually stacks up in terms of ability, but I can say with certainty that his record leaves him wholly undeserving of the shot at this time.
If I got to pick his next opponent from among the available choices within the division, my choices in order would be Stieglitz, Sartison, and Bika.
see above.dohboy wrote:Can't see this happening. Magee was offered Bute last summer in Romania and it was turned down. Mageee is the mandatory cahllenger for Sartison's WBA belt and that has to be contested by the end of January so this is the most likely scenario, but then again with this game you just never know
I believe the Ring removed him after Johnson debuted. But seriously- am I missing something? Who has the guy beat at 168 in the last 5 years? Mads Larsen. That's it. That's the only significant win he has. He did some business in the early 2000s, but can we really count that? I mean if that stuff hasn't expired, Hasim Rahman is probably still a top 5 heavyweight because he KO'd Lennox Lewis way back when. And Evander Holyfield...wow.IRLangmaid25 wrote:Boxrec has Brian Magee at 15, with Ring Magazine has him at 10 in the latest edition.
As for the soups.
WBC has him at 2
IBF has him at 8
WBO has him at 13
And as he is the European Champion he has deserved his shot and has got the class and experience to give Lucian Bute a few problems, but I think Bute will take it either on a late stoppage or points.
G0mez wrote:I'm happy for Magee for getting a big fight and hopefully decent money.
Good pro and a nice guy. He will rightly be the underdog - but is miles ahead of Jesse Brinkley.
I have rechecked the Ring ratings you are right, following the Carl Froch-Arthur Abraham and Andre Ward and Sakio Bika clashes they have been major shake ups and he has dropped out of the top 10 with Glen Johnson at 9 and Abraham at 10 therefore forcing at Brian Magee out of the top 10.marcianofan wrote:I believe the Ring removed him after Johnson debuted. But seriously- am I missing something? Who has the guy beat at 168 in the last 5 years? Mads Larsen. That's it. That's the only significant win he has. He did some business in the early 2000s, but can we really count that? I mean if that stuff hasn't expired, Hasim Rahman is probably still a top 5 heavyweight because he KO'd Lennox Lewis way back when. And Evander Holyfield...wow.IRLangmaid25 wrote:Boxrec has Brian Magee at 15, with Ring Magazine has him at 10 in the latest edition.
As for the soups.
WBC has him at 2
IBF has him at 8
WBO has him at 13
And as he is the European Champion he has deserved his shot and has got the class and experience to give Lucian Bute a few problems, but I think Bute will take it either on a late stoppage or points.
I have nothing against Magee, but how anyone (even the alphabets) can rank him top 15 right now is beyond me.
If that shower of sh*t Jesse Brinkley is passed off as a contender to a world title, along with William Joppy and so forth - then being completely honest Magee is a monster step up in class !marcianofan wrote:
I have nothing against Magee, but how anyone (even the alphabets) can rank him top 15 right now is beyond me.
Well Brinkley beat Curtis Stevens at least, which with all due respect is more impressive than Mads Larsen. And I guess I agree with statements above to the effect that Bute hasn't beaten any elite fighters, though he's beaten at least a couple top 10 guys that maybe fall short of that level- but at the same time he's consistently beaten the 2nd tier guys to the point where the sheer volume overwhelms you. I think you could make a case for rating Froch, Kessler, and maybe Dirrell ahead of him, but I still call him #2 though.G0mez wrote:If that shower of sh*t Jesse Brinkley is passed off as a contender to a world title, along with William Joppy and so forth - then being completely honest Magee is a monster step up in class !marcianofan wrote:
I have nothing against Magee, but how anyone (even the alphabets) can rank him top 15 right now is beyond me.
How the hell Bute gets away with fighting such a crock year in, year out and get so many plaudits I'll never know.
He went life and death with Andrade and if it wasn't for Marlon B Wright, he'd have a stoppage defeat on his slate.
Bute is slicker than froch though and probably hits just as hard.bennie wrote:Belfast's Brian Magee finally gets a world title chance when he challenges Canada's Lucian Bute for the IBF super-middleweight title in Montreal on March 19.
In 2005, Magee lost a WBO title shot at Joe Calzaghe in horrid circumstances, politically, when the fight was called off with just a day to go, perversely on St Patrick's Day. A year later, he looked out of the running when Carl Froch overwhelmed him in 11 rounds but Magee kept plugging away and really shook up the European boxing scene earlier this year against Denmark's Mads Larsen in Denmark.
Normally a clever if unspectacular southpaw, Magee destroyed Larsen in seven rounds with body shots and looked just as aggressive against Germany's Roman Aramian last time out, hammering him in eight one-sided rounds. The upshot is this trip to Canada for 35-year-old Brian.
To Bute, a slick, quick, sharp-hitting southpaw who has toyed with recent opposition and enjoys huge support in his home city of Montreal. Yes, Magee proved he could travel against Larsen, but Bute is an altogether different proposition, close to his peak at 30, with a perfect record of 27-0 (22). The only real blip in Bute's career to date came against California's Librado Andrade in 2008 but that blip is firmly behind him now. Bute despatched Andrade in four rounds in a rematch last year.
Ironically, Bute fights very much like Calzaghe did, throwing punches in bunches and proving hard to tag. He ran out of steam in the 12th and last round against Andrade in Montreal and was put down, after which the referee saved him, which only goes to show how difficult it will be for Magee to get a result. If Brian can go 11 rounds with the strong, rugged Froch, he can take Bute the full 12 rounds. However, Bute takes the points.