Prime - JC Chavez, Meldrick Taylor, Oscar De La Hoya.....

[diddy]

....Pernell Whitaker and Felix Trinidad.

At each of their very peaks, who was the best fighter? Meaning if they all came up at the same time, all they each fought each other 10 times at the peak primes of their careers, who would win the most fights, and how would you rank them?

In my opinion, AT HIS VERY BEST, Meldrick Taylor of 1990, wins the most fights between these 5 men. I'm sure some will disagree. Obviously Taylor didnt have the career longevity of some of these guys (mainly b/c his fighting style was so grueling and he was such an offensive whirlwind that he couldnt hold up for the long haul b/c he didnt do much to defend himself in there, he just went in there to overwhelm you with wicked fast combinations), but god damn was he GOOD at his peak or what?

It's a shame, among these 5 fighters, only De La Hoya and Trinidad were able to meet each other at the apex of their careers, and we know what kind of controversial barnburner that was.

We know ODLH got Whitaker and JC Chavez at the tail ends of their careers. How would those 2 fights have turned out 3 yrs earlier?

This thread should make for interesting convo.

[T.M.K]

Interesting idea:

I am going to pass on my actual answer as I find it all a little too subjective (to do with best-fighting weights etc) for this time of the day on Boxing Day, however what I will say is, in general, even through hardcore fans, I think Trinidad will not be given enough credit in this list. When I actually think the prime 10st 7lber (before he became super-famous/popular) I think he could easily have won the entire thing - he was an absolute beast in a lot of his IBF defences.

best wishes

"T.M.K"

[mcriss]

the best in prime would easily be pernell...he pretty much beat chavez' ass...i actually thought he beat oscar...he made him look stupid at times,plus dropped'em...he would've prob had the most problems with meldrick...especially his hand speed & pressure....pernell had a fight style 4 everybody...it was silky smooth .....plus he didn't act like a ass_ hole...like pbf...who is eerily similar to sweet pea....trinidad is too big for taylor & chavez...there warriors,they'll get hit to much....taylor would frustrate tito more though.

[Idisagree]

....Pernell Whitaker and Felix Trinidad.

At each of their very peaks, who was the best fighter? Meaning if they all came up at the same time, all they each fought each other 10 times at the peak primes of their careers, who would win the most fights, and how would you rank them?

In my opinion, AT HIS VERY BEST, Meldrick Taylor of 1990, wins the most fights between these 5 men. I'm sure some will disagree. Obviously Taylor didnt have the career longevity of some of these guys (mainly b/c his fighting style was so grueling and he was such an offensive whirlwind that he couldnt hold up for the long haul b/c he didnt do much to defend himself in there, he just went in there to overwhelm you with wicked fast combinations), but god damn was he GOOD at his peak or what?

It's a shame, among these 5 fighters, only De La Hoya and Trinidad were able to meet each other at the apex of their careers, and we know what kind of controversial barnburner that was.

We know ODLH got Whitaker and JC Chavez at the tail ends of their careers. How would those 2 fights have turned out 3 yrs earlier?

This thread should make for interesting convo.

You must be joking? Taylor wins the most fights

Taylor vs Chavez we already know the answer for that
Taylor vs DLH: DLH stops Taylor in the second half of the fight. DLH was smarter than Taylor and wins this one.
Taylor vs Trinidad: Taylor was just not the smarter fighter in the ring and will definitely trade with Tito. Tito by brutal KO in the first half of the fight.
Taylor vs Whitaker: Whitaker takes him to school and wins a clear UD.

For me Trinidad and Sweet Pea wins the most.

[alexpaterson]

Whitaker

I've never seen a guy so comfterable in the ring, his defence and jab were truly amazing I don't think any of the above could deal with him, all going the distance. Trinadad's style was fairly difficult for him but I honestly believe he could of dealt with him, I could be being bias but I really think he would win a close point decision.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Whitaker . . Easy.

(This thread should be in BOTP)

No doubt. It's Whitaker, & by some distance.

You can't really compare Taylor or Chavez with Trinidad in a direct sense, only pound-for-pound. Chavez & Taylor weren't what they had been by the time they reached Trinidad's domain --- Welter.

[gilgamesh]

If Taylor/Chavez hadn't been stopped when it did. Taylor would've beaten Chavez at least once, but he was damaged enough during that fight that he would've never won a rematch over Chavez. I believe DLH would be able to beat Taylor more often than not, probably Chavez also. Chavez vs Trinidad is an interesting match-up but considering that Chavez was always at his best at 140 and below, I can't really see him being able to beat Tito. Tito would just be too strong for him.

At his best though Pernell can beat all these guys by Unanimous Decision almost every time out. So my answer would have to be Sweet Pea.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Pea loses maybe 10 rounds in 4 fights. Of course, he might only get two decisions. He schooled two of these guys already and went 0-1-1.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Pea loses maybe 10 rounds in 4 fights. Of course, he might only get two decisions. He schooled two of these guys already and went 0-1-1.

He is the best of the bunch pound-for-pound, but he's also the only guy here, IMO, where you can definitively say, "Well, he can beat all these guys at their best weights, even if it isn't his."

LW was Whitaker's best division, of course. It was also Chavez's, for mine, & Whitaker was better at 135 --- though Chavez was indeed a beast. Whitaker beats Chavez at Lightweight.

He beats De La Hoya at 135-147 (Thinking 140 was De La Hoya at his lethal best, but if someone says 147, I can understand that --- either way, the Whitaker of the early-90's, at either Jr. Welter or Welter, beats De La Hoya)

Whitaker beats Taylor in a pretty fun fight at 140. Taylor snatches a few rounds with activity & closes strongly, but Whitaker takes the rest for an 8-4 verdict.

Whitaker (early-90's) makes a fool of Trinidad at 147 & that isn't even close to being a debate for me. This is the easiest night for Whitaker of all these opponents.