Respect referred to the way you address people. Not with disagreeing with them. I dont mind disagreement. Just name calling.
I leave now so you can enjoy your victory.
Bubis Heavyweight Top Ten May 2005
Oh dear and you continue to patronise me. If you lose sleep over being called 'mental' then thats your problem, not mine.jab wrote:Ok, so your second best reply is another insult. Wow. You won the argument. I cannot argue with such eloquence.
Respect referred to the way you address people. Not with disagreeing with them. I dont mind disagreement. Just name calling.
I leave now so you can enjoy your victory.
And for the record the reasoning behind your top 10 IS mental. Do you not see that it is useless to rank boxers by what might and could happen?
You should learn to take things with a pinch of salt - no use crying over spilt milk. If I really wanted to offend you, you'd know about it - but that was never my intention.
Now here, take a tissue to dry your eyes *passes Jab a tissue*
Right, all i'm trying to say is that your system of ranking heavyweights is flawed.jab wrote:I cant follow yout thought here. Help me a bit. Phoney is suspended for the next few months. So he cannot fight anybody today, nor next months, nor the next 3 months. So why should he figure in a ranking of likely results today? Toney is not even a hypothetical fight.Kevo wrote:Duh! All of this happened in the past, which, since past results isn't part of the criteria for forming your top ten, should count for nothing.jab wrote:Well Keno,
And Phoney Toney wont be a favorite because he cannot fight Ruiz for the WBA. He is banned so he doesnt count TODAY. The ratings are subject to change. In fact all federations make a new one every month. Duh!
IF you talk of the first Phoney vs Ruiz fight you would be right: he wa sa favorite. But his chaeting got him stripped.
According to your top ten, Wlad would be betting favourite IF he fought one of the boxers ranked below him. Well in that case, IF Toney fought Ruiz again he would be the betting favourite. See what i'm getting at?
ITs like saying Lewis should be a top fight. Well, yes, he could be, but the guy is not fighting due to retirement. Toney cannot fight for 3 months due to the drug ban. That is why he doesnt figure in my list. See what I mean? Ibeabuchi could probabaly whip Byrd again. Should I include him in a list of likely results today when he is i nthe loony bin?
You have Wlad in your top ten because he would be a betting favourite over the other fighters. Well using your logic, Toney would be placed above Ruiz, as he would be a betting favourite.
As for Toney being excluded from your rankings, as he won't be fighting for three months, well lets have a look at the rest of your top ten:
V. Klitschko. Last fought dec 2004. Over 5 months ago
C. Byrd. Last fought Nov 2004. Over 6 months ago
H.Rahman. Last fought Nov 2004. Over 6 months ago
S. Samil Sam. Last fought Feb 2005. 3 months ago
Why didn't you exclude these fighters from your rankings? Some aren't due to fight for another month or so, making their breaks from the sport even longer. Whats the point of having them in your rankings if they don't count 'TODAY'?
And no, Ibeabuchi shouldn't be in your rankings, because:
A) He is inactive
and
B)(according to your system) everyone would be a betting favourite over him now.