Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

Whew, for a minute there I thought the universe was out of alignment. Sorry I doubted you Frank.

I still have some bullshit left in me Randy....

I always liked that old saying "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit". lol

Quoting Cannonball Green, "I don't out smart them, I out dumb them"...

[Rick Farris]

I still have some bullshit left in me Randy....

I always liked that old saying "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit". lol

Quoting Cannonball Green, "I don't out smart them, I out dumb them"...

Once again, Frank is showing us the subtle art of Kept Man supremecy.
He is so good at feinting, he feints us out and we know what he is doing?
On several occasions I felt Frank was popping his own balloon. Now I realize he was showing by example.
Just when you think the punch is going to land, a slight turn of the head, and the danger flys by.

[Rick Farris]

You gotta water the grass now and then Rick....
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I've got that one covered, Frank.
My building has a gardner!

[kikibalt]

You gotta water the grass now and then Rick....
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I can do that, Frank.
My building has a gardner!

So do I, years ago my lawn mower broke so I hire a gardener...

[Rick Farris]

You gotta water the grass now and then Rick....
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I can do that, Frank.
My building has a gardner!

So do I, years ago my lawn mower broke so I hire a gardener... [/quote

Frank, I cut so many lawns when I was a kid, I hope I never see another lawn mower.

[kikibalt]

You gotta water the grass now and then Rick....
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I can do that, Frank.
My building has a gardner!

So do I, years ago my lawn mower broke so I hire a gardener...

Frank, when I was a kid I cut so many lawns I hope I never see a lawn mower again.

When I was in Jr high I had 3 house that I would cut the grass on the weekends....

[Rick Farris]

Cutting the grass . . .

Speaking of gardners, as you know, Jose Pimentel (Jesus's twin) had his own gardening business back when he was fighting.
A couple years ago when I was speaking with Jesus, I asked him how his brother was doing?
He told me that Joe still worked his gardening business and doing well.

[kikibalt]

You gotta water the grass now and then Rick....
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I can do that, Frank.
My building has a gardner!

So do I, years ago my lawn mower broke so I hire a gardener...

Frank, when I was a kid I cut so many lawns I hope I never see a lawn mower again.
Cutting Grass . . .

Speaking of gardners, as you know, Jose Pimentel (Jesus's twin) had his own gardening business back when he was fighting.
A couple years ago when I was speaking with Jesus, I asked him how his brother was doing?
He told me that Joe still worked his gardening business and doing well.

Yeah, but he is not in California, he is in Indiana...too fu*king cold for me in Indiana....

[BOXERJOSH]

Thanks Joshua, yes, the boys were fighters alright....

Tough boys in the ring.

forgot to mention a few more of my favorites from back in the day-
Oscar Albarado
Armando Muniz
and the beloved, Mando Ramos whose fights I'll never forget and lost my voice screaming for him to knock the guy out!

Joshua . . . Frank & I are both close with Armando Muniz. In fact, Frank is the V.P. of the California Boxing Hall of Fame.
I don't know where you live, but on Saturday June 25th, many of us are going to meet at the CBHOF luncheon.
If you can make it, I'll save you a seat at one of our tables. Muniz, Bobby Chacon, Danny Lopez, Rodolfo Gonzalez, Carlos Palomino, just about everybody shows up. It goes from 11am-2pm. Good food, lots of fun.

I've got it marked on my calendar; thanks for teh invite, I'll keep a look out for more information as the daqte gets closer. Thanks again.

[Rick Farris]

So do I, years ago my lawn mower broke so I hire a gardener...

Frank, when I was a kid I cut so many lawns I hope I never see a lawn mower again.
Cutting Grass . . .

Speaking of gardners, as you know, Jose Pimentel (Jesus's twin) had his own gardening business back when he was fighting.
A couple years ago when I was speaking with Jesus, I asked him how his brother was doing?
He told me that Joe still worked his gardening business and doing well.

Yeah, but he is not in California, he is in Indiana...too fu*king cold for me in Indiana....

He didn't say anything to me about Indiana.
Damn, I guess he's also shoveling snow.

[kikibalt]

Frank, when I was a kid I cut so many lawns I hope I never see a lawn mower again.
Cutting Grass . . .

Speaking of gardners, as you know, Jose Pimentel (Jesus's twin) had his own gardening business back when he was fighting.
A couple years ago when I was speaking with Jesus, I asked him how his brother was doing?
He told me that Joe still worked his gardening business and doing well.

Yeah, but he is not in California, he is in Indiana...too fu*king cold for me in Indiana....

He didn't say anything to me about Indiana.
Damn, I guess he's also shoveling snow.

I guess he can make more money if he does both...

[Rick Farris]

Yeah, but he is not in California, he is in Indiana...too fu*king cold for me in Indiana....

He didn't say anything to me about Indiana.
Damn, I guess he's also shoveling snow.

I guess he can make more money if he does both...

Yeah, and it will keep him fit.
That's one thing about both of these explosive punching brothers, they were in shape!
To this day, Jesus is trim, and I bet Joe is the same.

[Rick Farris]

A Stronger Fighter - Manuel Labor and Boxers . . .


When I was 19-years-old, my trainer Mel Epstein used to look at me and say-
"Your growing, but you need more strength, you need to do some hard work."
"I'm going to send you to work on a ranch in Montana for the summer. You'll comeback stronger!" Mel announced.

I told Mel he wasn't sending me anywhere.
I had a hot girlfriend and there was no way I was going to blow a perfect California summer with the perfect California blonde.
"I can work hard here, I can get a labor job and use the money, too."

So I went to work with a friend who was a Flores stablemate of mine years ago.
I installed irrigation pipes one day, then we picked them up the next day and took them somewhere else.
Then a buddy knew a guy who needed some laborers to dig into decomposed granite, picks and shovels for a ceptic tank at a mobile home park.
Then we picked up scrap at construction sites, carrying bags of concrete, etc.

Working at that made me much stronger, because unlike conventional weight training, you move into awkward postitions when you are swinging a pick, lifting a shovel, wrangling a bag of sand, or whatever.
In boxing you can get bent into a lot of strange positions, and this builds strength to deal with it.
You learn to lift properly, not a bar-bell, but something that creates a true working muscle.
When you are in close in the ring with mature pros, these guys are strong, and you can't let them bull you around.
You need to be able to pick the guy up and slam him to the ground, although that is something you would never do in a boxing match.
Still, if you are strong enough to do that, you'll be strong enough to over power, or prevent yourself from being over-powered.
Regardless of how slick you can box, you have to be strong when you need to be.

Mel was right, and had I gone to Montana I'd have come back stronger.
However, I'm glad I didn't go. That was one helluva summer!

[THEHAMMER321]

Frank you talk about Indiana being cold, how bout Montana, Rick if you would have went there you would have been shoveling snow not to mention mule sh-t if Epstien had his way.

[kikibalt]

A Stronger Fighter - Manuel Labor and Boxers . . .


When I was 19-years-old, my trainer Mel Epstein used to look at me and say-
"Your growing, but you need more strength, you need to do some hard work."
"I'm going to send you to work on a ranch in Montana for the summer. You'll comeback stronger!" Mel announced.

I told Mel he wasn't sending me anywhere.
I had a hot girlfriend and there was no way I was going to blow a perfect California summer with the perfect California blonde.
"I can work hard here, I can get a labor job and use the money, too."

So I went to work with a friend who was a Flores stablemate of mine years ago.
I installed irrigation pipes one day, then we picked them up the next day and took them somewhere else.
Then a buddy knew a guy who needed some laborers to dig into decomposed granite, picks and shovels for a ceptic tank at a mobile home park.
Then we picked up scrap at construction sites, carrying bags of concrete, etc.

Working at that made me much stronger, because unlike conventional weight training, you move into awkward postitions when you are swinging a pick, lifting a shovel, wrangling a bag of sand, or whatever.
In boxing you can get bent into a lot of strange positions, and this builds strength to deal with it.
You learn to lift properly, not a bar-bell, but something that creates a true working muscle.
When you are in close in the ring with mature pros, these guys are strong, and you can't let them bull you around.
You need to be able to pick the guy up and slam him to the ground, although that is something you would never do in a boxing match.
Still, if you are strong enough to do that, you'll be strong enough to over power, or prevent yourself from being over-powered.
Regardless of how slick you can box, you have to be strong when you need to be.

Mel was right, and had I gone to Montana I'd have come back stronger.
However, I'm glad I didn't go. That was one helluva summer!

[kikibalt]

Frank you talk about Indiana being cold, how bout Montana, Rick if you would have went there you would have been shoveling snow not to mention mule sh-t if Epstien had his way.

[THEHAMMER321]

The New York jets are a 9 point underdog vs New England next week, jets are gonna have to bring there A game, don't think the last minute heroics bailout is gonna work, need to jump out on top and stay there, go jets

[kikibalt]

The New York jets are a 9 point underdog vs New England next week, jets are gonna have to bring there A game, don't think the last minute heroics bailout is gonna work, need to jump out on top and stay there, go jets

GB just won.....

As much as I love the Jets, I don't think they can win at NE....

[THEHAMMER321]

The New York jets are a 9 point underdog vs New England next week, jets are gonna have to bring there A game, don't think the last minute heroics bailout is gonna work, need to jump out on top and stay there, go jets

GB just won.....

As much as I love the Jets, I don't think they can win at NE....

Anytime I think someone can't win, I think of Buster Douglas, anything can happen.

[Rick Farris]

The New York jets are a 9 point underdog vs New England next week, jets are gonna have to bring there A game, don't think the last minute heroics bailout is gonna work, need to jump out on top and stay there, go jets

GB just won.....

As much as I love the Jets, I don't think they can win at NE....

Anytime I think someone can't win, I think of Buster Douglas, anything can happen.

Good point, Paul.
I believe next week the toughest fight the Jets could possibly have.
But who knows? I want the Jets to win.
You know, three more wins means ALL THE MARBLES!
But like Frank, I think . . .

[CNorkusJr]

GB just won.....

As much as I love the Jets, I don't think they can win at NE....

Anytime I think someone can't win, I think of Buster Douglas, anything can happen.

Good point, Paul.
I believe next week the toughest fight the Jets could possibly have.
But who knows? I want the Jets to win.
You know, three more wins means ALL THE MARBLES!
But like Frank, I think . . .

I agree, anything can happen. I only wished the game was in New Jersey instead. NE is tough to beat at home, but they can be beat if Brady gets frustrated. If any team can do that its the JETS.I didnt like Sanchez's passing game. Way too long which he tried to overcompensate for his under-passing for the last half of regular season.

I am still holding out hope for the Jets. If they get by NE then the Super Bowl might just be there for the taking.Sunday 4pm here in NY.One feeling that I can never get over was visiting San Fran in the 1980's. I remember watching NY Mets night games from Shea at 4pm on the West Coast. Very different. Even eerier was watching NY Mets night games in Hawaii
at noon or 1pm. So much for time zones through out the Country.
I still enjoy getting up at 5am (NY time) to watch the British Open Golf every year too.

Rick, I found your story about watching the football game at a sports bar when Monica was shopping a great story. A 2 story mall by me had a Chinese Restaurant in it back in the 70's & 80's.
It had a small bar inside which had about 6 stools. I remember going shopping with our friends and the men folk headed right to the place while the ladies spent the afternoon shopping. There had to be 25 husbands and non-married men drinking in the place each time when one by one the wives would come in to pick up their spouses to leave.I met more new friends there and would see each other time after time when we would go shopping.
Unfortunely for us, the food end of it didnt pay the bills (they made money on the bar though), and the place closed up on us after a long time. Now a food court has replaced the restaurants and my shopping days with wife are few and far between.

[Expug]

A Stronger Fighter - Manuel Labor and Boxers . . .


When I was 19-years-old, my trainer Mel Epstein used to look at me and say-
"Your growing, but you need more strength, you need to do some hard work."
"I'm going to send you to work on a ranch in Montana for the summer. You'll comeback stronger!" Mel announced.

I told Mel he wasn't sending me anywhere.
I had a hot girlfriend and there was no way I was going to blow a perfect California summer with the perfect California blonde.
"I can work hard here, I can get a labor job and use the money, too."

So I went to work with a friend who was a Flores stablemate of mine years ago.
I installed irrigation pipes one day, then we picked them up the next day and took them somewhere else.
Then a buddy knew a guy who needed some laborers to dig into decomposed granite, picks and shovels for a ceptic tank at a mobile home park.
Then we picked up scrap at construction sites, carrying bags of concrete, etc.

Working at that made me much stronger, because unlike conventional weight training, you move into awkward postitions when you are swinging a pick, lifting a shovel, wrangling a bag of sand, or whatever.
In boxing you can get bent into a lot of strange positions, and this builds strength to deal with it.
You learn to lift properly, not a bar-bell, but something that creates a true working muscle.
When you are in close in the ring with mature pros, these guys are strong, and you can't let them bull you around.
You need to be able to pick the guy up and slam him to the ground, although that is something you would never do in a boxing match.
Still, if you are strong enough to do that, you'll be strong enough to over power, or prevent yourself from being over-powered.
Regardless of how slick you can box, you have to be strong when you need to be.

Mel was right, and had I gone to Montana I'd have come back stronger.
However, I'm glad I didn't go. That was one helluva summer!

Yep Rick. Your right about building strength.
Years ago I was a union construction laborer. Man I worked like a mule.Did everything. I liked it though and it did keep me in shape.
The only problem is, you gotta make sure your working with a good crew of guys who arent yahoos. I almost got killed a couple times. Once an insulation instaler dropped his knife about five stories and hit me in the neck. Thank God it hit on the handle side not the blade side or I would have been a shish kabob. Another time a guy was swinging an axe hitting a plaster wall to take it down on a demolition crew I was working on. The thing flew out of his hands.(the dude was missing a freakin thumb)and hit me right in the side.Again I caught the blunt side not the blade. Guys name was Sergio. I dont think I'll ever forget that guy.

[Expug]

Sharron Angle, Michelle Buckman, Sarah Palin, Rush, Beck and other crazy right-wingers irresponsible statements are coming to fruition....

Do we have evidence that he was motivated by the individuals you mentioned Frank? I know all about the political rhetoric coming from both sides. Do we have proof he was motivated or encouraged by any of it? I dont think so. He looks to be a lunatic.

[kikibalt]

4:00 AM

Getting coffee ready, anybody for a cup?

[bennie]

Internet sources are reporting that Matthew Hatton, brother of the now retired Ricky, will face hot Mexican prospect Saul Alvarez in the States in March.
Hatton holds the European welterweight title and has impressed in recent fights but the same can be said of the unbeaten Alvarez, a red-haired Mexican who looks like Paddy McGinty's goat and certainly fights like a short-tempered Irishman as he wades into his opponents throwing hard shots to head and body.
At just 20 years of age, the stocky Alvarez is nine years younger than Hatton and hits harder than the Manchester stylist, although he failed to stop tough Aussie veteran Lovemore Ndou last time out, settling for a unanimous 12-round decision. However, Hatton faced the same Ndou in 2009 and was held to a draw, which does separate the two fighters.
Matthew is a nice boxer who puts his punches together well but he lacks the snap in his punches to really deter a fighter like Alvarez, who is likely to force a late stoppage.