Luan Krasniqi vs Lance Whitaker (WBO-Eliminator) Who`ll win?

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 29 May 2005, 04:52

red_archerv wrote:DRAW

Eh?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 29 May 2005, 09:08

Great win by the German, don't think anyone had knocked out Whitaker previously?
Krasniqi showed a good jab from the off, outboxing the taller American, and flashed a dangerous looking right hand cross a few times early on.
Whenever Lance opened up ( rarely ) Krasniqi would just back off and let the pressure subside - then just start pumping out that acurate jab again.

Don't think anyone expected the sudden ending, right after the bell to start the round. The German stepped in with one of those big right hands and caught Whitake high on the head - almost a temple shot- sending him crashing onto his back by the ropes. He tried to get up, but was OUT....

Krasniqi looks like he can more than hold his own against Brewer ( September is it? ) might even be favorite if it's happening in Germany.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 29 May 2005, 09:27

MightyWarrior wrote:Krasniqi looks like he can more than hold his own against Brewer ( September is it? ) might even be favorite if it's happening in Germany.

Brewster mate, don't think even the Germans would make a mismatch of that scale - shot supermiddleweight faces heavyweight contender

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 29 May 2005, 16:04

Well Brewer has been getting a bit of work in Germany lately so who knows? I dont really know what to make of Krasniqi he seems a bit inconsistent, maybe it's a confidence thing.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 29 May 2005, 16:08

I've probably always under-rated Krasniqi because he didn't seem to have the size and power to make much noise at the top. But if he's going to go around knocking out giant punchers who have never even been on the canvas before then maybe I need to rethink my position.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 30 May 2005, 05:11

MightyWarrior wrote:Great win by the German, don't think anyone had knocked out Whitaker previously?
Krasniqi showed a good jab from the off, outboxing the taller American, and flashed a dangerous looking right hand cross a few times early on.
Whenever Lance opened up ( rarely ) Krasniqi would just back off and let the pressure subside - then just start pumping out that acurate jab again.

Don't think anyone expected the sudden ending, right after the bell to start the round. The German stepped in with one of those big right hands and caught Whitake high on the head - almost a temple shot- sending him crashing onto his back by the ropes. He tried to get up, but was OUT....

Krasniqi looks like he can more than hold his own against Brewer ( September is it? ) might even be favorite if it's happening in Germany.

YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He will beat Brewster and will be the new WBO World Champion !!!!!!!!!!!

This fight was just so brilliant, he gave Whitaker no chance and even punched him out. Luan is improving and improving.........

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 30 May 2005, 08:16

Luan has one of the best jabs in the division...
what is nice to see that in this day of "giant" heavyweights
Toney, Brewster, Byrd and Krasniqi seem to be right up at the top... and they are certainly no giants.... just decent sized guys with good skill

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 30 May 2005, 08:25

What are the chances of Brewster v Krasniqi getting made? Luan has Universum behind him who can provide the kind of cash that gets US fighters over to Germany but Brewster is with Don King, who prefers his heavyweights to fight each other. Wouldn't surprise me if the WBO end up stripping Brewster in time for a failure to fight Krasniqi, Universum promote a lot of WBO fights and I'm sure they would be sympathetic to the German camp if Brewster started prevaricating, say if he had a fight with another King champion coming up. Until Lamon KO'ed Wladimir the WBO heavy title had been virtually a fixture on the Universum mantlepiece for years. Wouldn't surprise me if Krasniqi ending up fighting Wladimir for a vacant WBO title before the end of the year.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 30 May 2005, 09:29

Chopping Right wrote:What are the chances of Brewster v Krasniqi getting made? Luan has Universum behind him who can provide the kind of cash that gets US fighters over to Germany but Brewster is with Don King, who prefers his heavyweights to fight each other. Wouldn't surprise me if the WBO end up stripping Brewster in time for a failure to fight Krasniqi, Universum promote a lot of WBO fights and I'm sure they would be sympathetic to the German camp if Brewster started prevaricating, say if he had a fight with another King champion coming up. Until Lamon KO'ed Wladimir the WBO heavy title had been virtually a fixture on the Universum mantlepiece for years. Wouldn't surprise me if Krasniqi ending up fighting Wladimir for a vacant WBO title before the end of the year.

IMO Kohl and King agreed in the fight date, September 28th in Hamburg (100th Birthday of Max Schmeling) with Adamek vs Ulrich on the Undercard. Kohl was in Chicago for the Brewster fight. Brewster has to make a mandatory next vs the #1, Luan. Wladi won´t fight Luan. That scares the shit out of him, imaging that he could lose vs his former "underachieving" team mate and knowing that he lost vs Luan at the 1995 World Championships (Amateur), where Luan only lost vs legendary Felix Savon.

Maybe the performance of Luan changed Kings mind because he thought Luan is no problem for Brewster......Kohl has the power and the money to bring this fight to Germany on this historical day. It will be Brewsters biggest payday of course. he will get at least 2 Mio. $. Whitaker even got almost a milion Euros.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 30 May 2005, 09:42

BubiScholz wrote:Kohl has the power and the money to bring this fight to Germany on this historical day. It will be Brewsters biggest payday of course. he will get at least 2 Mio. $. Whitaker even got almost a milion Euros.

There certainly are some big, big paydays to be had in Germany at the moment. I think Calzaghe got a helluva bundle considering he was facing a guy he had already beaten in the past.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 30 May 2005, 10:12

Chopping Right wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:Kohl has the power and the money to bring this fight to Germany on this historical day. It will be Brewsters biggest payday of course. he will get at least 2 Mio. $. Whitaker even got almost a milion Euros.
There certainly are some big, big paydays to be had in Germany at the moment. I think Calzaghe got a helluva bundle considering he was facing a guy he had already beaten in the past.

We´ll have the bigest purses in Super Middle and Heavy actually, more than in the States. Byrd was offered 4 Mio. Euros to fight Wladi in Dortmund.......

Calzaghe got 1.4 Mio. $, Veit not the half. It was Calzaghes biggest payday. It´s a good example to see what "Europes biggest Promoter" has done the last ten years for his best boxer........

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 30 May 2005, 20:06

dont be fooled into thinking the US is the home of big purses.... Golata got 5 figure purse (dollars) for his fight with ruiz or byrd cannot remember which...... he could have got a lot more fighting for the EBU title...

didnt see the purse brewster got versus Golata but you can bet he'll get a lot more fighting Krasniqi

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 31 May 2005, 04:35

knockout wrote:dont be fooled into thinking the US is the home of big purses.... Golata got 5 figure purse (dollars) for his fight with ruiz or byrd cannot remember which...... he could have got a lot more fighting for the EBU title...

didnt see the purse brewster got versus Golata but you can bet he'll get a lot more fighting Krasniqi

you are right, only Vitali got 7 figures purse in the US, about 3 Mio. $, but it is not more than he could get here. The other 3 champions don´t get a million. You only earn fornicating much money when the crowd goes crazy and you sell a lot of PPV´s.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 31 May 2005, 10:08

I didn't realise Whitaker picked up so much, that's a lot of cash for a lanky waste of time like him...i might try and wangle a fight in Germany

Latuch! · Post by **Latuch!** » 31 May 2005, 17:50

It was reported in polish press Brewster got 650.000 and Golota 150.000.

Golota should have fought in Germany...

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 01 Jun 2005, 04:46

Latuch! wrote:It was reported in polish press Brewster got 650.000 and Golota 150.000.

Golota should have fought in Germany...

so for 3 world title challenges i reckon Golota earned about $350000... about euro 275000.....would have got about that for one EBU fight i reckon

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 01 Jun 2005, 05:33

knockout wrote:
Latuch! wrote:It was reported in polish press Brewster got 650.000 and Golota 150.000.

Golota should have fought in Germany...
so for 3 world title challenges i reckon Golota earned about $350000... about euro 275000.....would have got about that for one EBU fight i reckon

But you have to consider he came from absolutely nowhere to get those 3 title shots. The most undeserving heavyweight title shots I can rememeber in a long time.

Before anyone jumps all over me saying he nearly won the first two, I am not on about the fights themselves but what he'd actually done previously to get them which was fook all.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 01 Jun 2005, 05:43

nickd wrote:....what he'd actually done previously to get them which was fook all.

He signed with Don King, what more should a guy do?

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 01 Jun 2005, 17:26

3.54 mill watched the Krasniqi vs Whittaker fight live on ZDF.
Other fights to compare it with:
4.28 mill saw Valuev vs Etienne live on ARD
3.42 mill saw Calzaghe vs Veit live on ARD
8.9 mill saw Wladimir Klitschko vs Castillo live on ARD
7 mill saw Regina Halmich vs Hollie Dunaway live on ZDF

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 22 Jun 2005, 18:25

BubiScholz wrote:
knockout wrote:dont be fooled into thinking the US is the home of big purses.... Golata got 5 figure purse (dollars) for his fight with ruiz or byrd cannot remember which...... he could have got a lot more fighting for the EBU title...

didnt see the purse brewster got versus Golata but you can bet he'll get a lot more fighting Krasniqi
you are right, only Vitali got 7 figures purse in the US, about 3 Mio. $, but it is not more than he could get here. The other 3 champions don´t get a million. You only earn fornicating much money when the crowd goes crazy and you sell a lot of PPV´s.

I just read that Scott Pembertons promotor offered Markus Beyer $500K for fighting Pemberton in the US, I wondered how much Sauerland laughed when he got that "offer".

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 23 Jun 2005, 05:09

Freiheit wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
knockout wrote:dont be fooled into thinking the US is the home of big purses.... Golata got 5 figure purse (dollars) for his fight with ruiz or byrd cannot remember which...... he could have got a lot more fighting for the EBU title...

didnt see the purse brewster got versus Golata but you can bet he'll get a lot more fighting Krasniqi
you are right, only Vitali got 7 figures purse in the US, about 3 Mio. $, but it is not more than he could get here. The other 3 champions don´t get a million. You only earn fornicating much money when the crowd goes crazy and you sell a lot of PPV´s.
I just read that Scott Pembertons promotor offered Markus Beyer $500K for fighting Pemberton in the US, I wondered how much Sauerland laughed when he got that "offer".

Even Anti-Boxer Hoffmann got that money.........

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 23 Jun 2005, 13:49

I thought Pemberton, himself at least, was stoney broke, and needed fights wherever and wherever he got them. Is he not WBC #1, and was he not due to face Lacy a few months back too?

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 23 Jun 2005, 15:00

jomothepure wrote:I thought Pemberton, himself at least, was stoney broke, and needed fights wherever and wherever he got them. Is he not WBC #1, and was he not due to face Lacy a few months back too?

I think he priced himself out of a Lacy left, he want a big purse for a world title fight.

Pemberton might be #1 but he is not the mandatory. The mandatory challenger is determined in a box-off between Pemberton, Lucas, Grant and Sanavia (Allthough Sanavia will fight Haussler next so Haussler might take his spot?).

Luan Krasniqi vs Lance Whitaker (WBO-Eliminator) Who`ll win?

Krasniqi or Whitaker