steelcity 65 wrote:My opinion that's all, I hope he proves me wrong but if he saw liam in sparin and thinks he's a slow starter that's great,but sparrin is for learning tryin different things so u can't go on sparing especially when its sparin a top fighter like kel ,liam is still learning the pro game and is only just 20 ,spars with everyone to help them out and takkes a lot out of it himself,and as had a couple of tests already like dee mitchell and kev mcauley ,but like I said liam fights who the promoters get ,but he never slags or brags about anything
You seem to be very vocal on all aspects of Sheffield boxing, yet never commented on the attacks on Richard Poxon's house.
Surely you would like the chance to condemn these cowardly attacks ?
Well beagle boy the subject is about one of my fighters so I will comment,and if u want to know my opinion on richard poxons situation,well I do hope they catch up with who did it as its sad,and uncalled for.and totally wrong so y mention that on this topic that's what I'd like to know
canonball1234 wrote:i will get back to this after i deal with lester walsh on 22nd of jan keep my focus on him first,but its free publicity lee calling me out am greatfull, noble will be a good stepping stone he is from the ingles gym other end off town i would be happy to fight him, i fink them who come to fight and dont go into a shell will suits me.
boxingfarmer30 wrote:Half my fights i won and half i lost,reaching an area final in aba's made me open class so i believe.
so what does reaching a national final class you as then? Just curious....
I Know it used to be get past your regonial stage you classed as open class.... for example say a boxer won his norfolk county title,then went thru to next stage regoinal finals with boxers from norfolk,suffolk,essex&cambridgeshire&won that he would be classed as open class....thats how it used to work years back,its prob all changed now...
boxingfarmer30 wrote:Half my fights i won and half i lost,reaching an area final in aba's made me open class so i believe.
so what does reaching a national final class you as then? Just curious....
I Know it used to be get past your regonial stage you classed as open class.... for example say a boxer won his norfolk county title,then went thru to next stage regoinal finals with boxers from norfolk,suffolk,essex&cambridgeshire&won that he would be classed as open class....thats how it used to work years back,its prob all changed now...
if u win ur region u r classed an intermediate if u get to a senior national final u r classed as open
gmanji wrote:
so what does reaching a national final class you as then? Just curious....
I Know it used to be get past your regonial stage you classed as open class.... for example say a boxer won his norfolk county title,then went thru to next stage regoinal finals with boxers from norfolk,suffolk,essex&cambridgeshire&won that he would be classed as open class....thats how it used to work years back,its prob all changed now...
if u win ur region u r classed an intermediate if u get to a senior national final u r classed as open
Cheers for clearing that up
so if you are intermediate you can box 3x3s on a club show??
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
I Know it used to be get past your regonial stage you classed as open class.... for example say a boxer won his norfolk county title,then went thru to next stage regoinal finals with boxers from norfolk,suffolk,essex&cambridgeshire&won that he would be classed as open class....thats how it used to work years back,its prob all changed now...
if u win ur region u r classed an intermediate if u get to a senior national final u r classed as open
Cheers for clearing that up
so if you are intermediate you can box 3x3s on a club show??
yes he can,any senior can box 3x3s but a novice can't box an open class unless in a championships but an intermediate can box both
steelcity 65 wrote:if u win ur region u r classed an intermediate if u get to a senior national final u r classed as open
Cheers for clearing that up
so if you are intermediate you can box 3x3s on a club show??
yes he can,any senior can box 3x3s but a novice can't box an open class unless in a championships but an intermediate can box both
Bloody hell we digressed there,that wasn't my point my point was noble has far to much to say.I beat him fair and square as will liam.That im sure.And i was an inter and not a open class,now i believe
Well like I said its good that noble called liam out asd it got boxing in the newspaper,I only buy sheffield star if there is anything about boxin in it, but liam is focused on next saturday and hopefully put in a good performance, his training as gone well his condition is good thanks to mark willie puttin him through his stuff and its another 6x3s he's boxin so alls well. Good piece in boxing news this week about our gym in the amateur section
Lee Noble is a top bloke - but he is a step back for Liam Cameron - for me Cameron needs to be match toughly from now on and I am 100% certain he will produce the goods.
The tougher the fights the better Cameron will be - going through a list of journeymen in my view will do no good whatsoever.
Spud wrote:Lee Noble is a top bloke - but he is a step back for Liam Cameron - for me Cameron needs to be match toughly from now on and I am 100% certain he will produce the goods.
The tougher the fights the better Cameron will be - going through a list of journeymen in my view will do no good whatsoever.
Good to see you back, Spud.
Cameron's next opponent has won 2, lost 12.
His last opponent won 2, lost 7.
The one before won 1, lost 17.
To say Lee Noble would be a step back from these is ridiculous.
Spud wrote:Lee Noble is a top bloke - but he is a step back for Liam Cameron - for me Cameron needs to be match toughly from now on and I am 100% certain he will produce the goods.
The tougher the fights the better Cameron will be - going through a list of journeymen in my view will do no good whatsoever.
Good to see you back, Spud.
Cameron's next opponent has won 2, lost 12.
His last opponent won 2, lost 7.
The one before won 1, lost 17.
To say Lee Noble would be a step back from these is ridiculous.
i have to agree with Pugilist here - Lee is a very good yardstick for any prospect and a very dangerous opponent on his day. Would be a crackling little fight when you add in the Sheffield rivalry.
allegedly matched Billy Joe Saunders with Lee at a similar stage of career to where Cameron is now. Makes sense, if you ask me ...
Spud wrote:Lee Noble is a top bloke - but he is a step back for Liam Cameron - for me Cameron needs to be match toughly from now on and I am 100% certain he will produce the goods.
The tougher the fights the better Cameron will be - going through a list of journeymen in my view will do no good whatsoever.
Good to see you back, Spud.
Cameron's next opponent has won 2, lost 12.
His last opponent won 2, lost 7.
The one before won 1, lost 17.
To say Lee Noble would be a step back from these is ridiculous.
i have to agree with Pugilist here - Lee is a very good yardstick for any prospect and a very dangerous opponent on his day. Would be a crackling little fight when you add in the Sheffield rivalry.
allegedly matched Billy Joe Saunders with Lee at a similar stage of career to where Cameron is now. Makes sense, if you ask me ...
Ughhh???????????
Like I have stated in a previous post Lee Noble is a top man - but in now way is he any form of yardstick for a fighter of Cameron's calibre - I have seen Noble is some fights which have stunk the place out - yes he is very evasive and very hard to pin down but I am not sure what fight it was but I heard Brendan shouting at his man to fight!!!! or he would lose - so how can he be a yardstick for Cameron?? Surely you fight fans want to see Cameron in real tests rather than propaganda b*llocks which have risen from the "local rag".
In my view if Cameron v Noble is made it will be a step back for Cameron and its only a fight purely for ticket sales and right now Cameron needs the right fights rather than "seat fillers"
Pugilist-specialist wrote:
Good to see you back, Spud.
Cameron's next opponent has won 2, lost 12.
His last opponent won 2, lost 7.
The one before won 1, lost 17.
To say Lee Noble would be a step back from these is ridiculous.
i have to agree with Pugilist here - Lee is a very good yardstick for any prospect and a very dangerous opponent on his day. Would be a crackling little fight when you add in the Sheffield rivalry.
allegedly matched Billy Joe Saunders with Lee at a similar stage of career to where Cameron is now. Makes sense, if you ask me ...
Ughhh???????????
Like I have stated in a previous post Lee Noble is a top man - but in now way is he any form of yardstick for a fighter of Cameron's calibre - I have seen Noble is some fights which have stunk the place out - yes he is very evasive and very hard to pin down but I am not sure what fight it was but I heard Brendan shouting at his man to fight!!!! or he would lose - so how can he be a yardstick for Cameron?? Surely you fight fans want to see Cameron in real tests rather than propaganda b*llocks which have risen from the "local rag".
In my view if Cameron v Noble is made it will be a step back for Cameron and its only a fight purely for ticket sales and right now Cameron needs the right fights rather than "seat fillers"
i think the point that is being made here mate is that Noble is significantly better than Liam's current level of opposition. So therefore he definitely would not be a step back as you are arguing - in fact, he would be a step forward
danfoster wrote:
i have to agree with Pugilist here - Lee is a very good yardstick for any prospect and a very dangerous opponent on his day. Would be a crackling little fight when you add in the Sheffield rivalry.
allegedly matched Billy Joe Saunders with Lee at a similar stage of career to where Cameron is now. Makes sense, if you ask me ...
Ughhh???????????
Like I have stated in a previous post Lee Noble is a top man - but in now way is he any form of yardstick for a fighter of Cameron's calibre - I have seen Noble is some fights which have stunk the place out - yes he is very evasive and very hard to pin down but I am not sure what fight it was but I heard Brendan shouting at his man to fight!!!! or he would lose - so how can he be a yardstick for Cameron?? Surely you fight fans want to see Cameron in real tests rather than propaganda b*llocks which have risen from the "local rag".
In my view if Cameron v Noble is made it will be a step back for Cameron and its only a fight purely for ticket sales and right now Cameron needs the right fights rather than "seat fillers"
i think the point that is being made here mate is that Noble is significantly better than Liam's current level of opposition. So therefore he definitely would not be a step back as you are arguing - in fact, he would be a step forward
Can't fault that logic. Spud, I think what you mean is that he's not enough of a step forward, but there's no way on earth it can be a step back.
Lee Noble is a step forward as an opponent for Liam. He is tough, fit, game and has bags of experience against some very good lads. I think Liam would win but on points; Lee Noble does not look for an easy way out. Liam Cameron is a very good boxer and has his feet firmly on the floor. He'll do well.
;) my next fight is on the radar now, I would like to fight for a title soon no mater who it is I would like to fight the names with less lossers I fink am one of the dedicated fighters out there wich chris and mark will tell u I want these titles very very bad!! Thanks for coments!!
danfoster wrote:
i have to agree with Pugilist here - Lee is a very good yardstick for any prospect and a very dangerous opponent on his day. Would be a crackling little fight when you add in the Sheffield rivalry.
allegedly matched Billy Joe Saunders with Lee at a similar stage of career to where Cameron is now. Makes sense, if you ask me ...
Ughhh???????????
Like I have stated in a previous post Lee Noble is a top man - but in now way is he any form of yardstick for a fighter of Cameron's calibre - I have seen Noble is some fights which have stunk the place out - yes he is very evasive and very hard to pin down but I am not sure what fight it was but I heard Brendan shouting at his man to fight!!!! or he would lose - so how can he be a yardstick for Cameron?? Surely you fight fans want to see Cameron in real tests rather than propaganda b*llocks which have risen from the "local rag".
In my view if Cameron v Noble is made it will be a step back for Cameron and its only a fight purely for ticket sales and right now Cameron needs the right fights rather than "seat fillers"
i think the point that is being made here mate is that Noble is significantly better than Liam's current level of opposition. So therefore he definitely would not be a step back as you are arguing - in fact, he would be a step forward
A couple of fights we will be lookin at after this are the likes of paul burns or lee Edwards which if u check their records have only one loss each,a positive step if u ask me,lee has a losing record as a spoilers style and at this stage is not benificial to what we are doing, liam is now on his second 6x3s so we want him to adapt. To longer rounds shortly goin to 8 rounds as we think liam will like the more rounds,Lee Noble should make is own path if he wants to be a name,he had a chance with the english title and lost also lost to stu brooks for a title,
steelcity 65 wrote:A couple of fights we will be lookin at after this are the likes of paul burns or lee Edwards which if u check their records have only one loss each,a positive step if u ask me,lee has a losing record as a spoilers style and at this stage is not benificial to what we are doing, liam is now on his second 6x3s so we want him to adapt. To longer rounds shortly goin to 8 rounds as we think liam will like the more rounds,Lee Noble should make is own path if he wants to be a name,he had a chance with the english title and lost also lost to stu brooks for a title,
There's logic there, hope Liam gets regular bouts to keep it all moving; think I'll be at the Dome next Saturday.
Like I have stated in a previous post Lee Noble is a top man - but in now way is he any form of yardstick for a fighter of Cameron's calibre - I have seen Noble is some fights which have stunk the place out - yes he is very evasive and very hard to pin down but I am not sure what fight it was but I heard Brendan shouting at his man to fight!!!! or he would lose - so how can he be a yardstick for Cameron?? Surely you fight fans want to see Cameron in real tests rather than propaganda b*llocks which have risen from the "local rag".
In my view if Cameron v Noble is made it will be a step back for Cameron and its only a fight purely for ticket sales and right now Cameron needs the right fights rather than "seat fillers"
i think the point that is being made here mate is that Noble is significantly better than Liam's current level of opposition. So therefore he definitely would not be a step back as you are arguing - in fact, he would be a step forward
Spud in flawed argument shocker.
Aghhh bless your cotton socks!!!!
When I surface you are not far behind - how are things in the gym - have you put on anymore timber?
With regards to my argument being flawed - a points win against Lee Noble is hardly going to set the world alight anymore than his debut performance against Matt Scriven is it - and thus if you or anyone else agrees theres hardly any point in fighting him is there.
Once met Lee Noble in at The Town Hall in Middlesbrough
steelcity 65 wrote:A couple of fights we will be lookin at after this are the likes of paul burns or lee Edwards which if u check their records have only one loss each,a positive step if u ask me,lee has a losing record as a spoilers style and at this stage is not benificial to what we are doing, liam is now on his second 6x3s so we want him to adapt. To longer rounds shortly goin to 8 rounds as we think liam will like the more rounds,Lee Noble should make is own path if he wants to be a name,he had a chance with the english title and lost also lost to stu brooks for a title,
Lee Edwards has lost twice, but that would be a very interesting fight.
Burns has never boxed outside Scotland and boxrec rate him no.27 at welterweight.
steelcity 65 wrote:A couple of fights we will be lookin at after this are the likes of paul burns or lee Edwards which if u check their records have only one loss each,a positive step if u ask me,lee has a losing record as a spoilers style and at this stage is not benificial to what we are doing, liam is now on his second 6x3s so we want him to adapt. To longer rounds shortly goin to 8 rounds as we think liam will like the more rounds,Lee Noble should make is own path if he wants to be a name,he had a chance with the english title and lost also lost to stu brooks for a title,
Lee Edwards has lost twice, but that would be a very interesting fight.
Burns has never boxed outside Scotland and boxrec rate him no.27 at welterweight.
thing is we were told liam is boxing lester walsh by the same matchmaker who said liam was boxing Dee Mitchell 3 fights ago so we just get on with it,but edwards and burns are the fights we want,as for burns not boxing out of scotland doesn't mean nothing he still holds a good record
