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Hounddawg wrote:It's not a PPV and i hope the SBW thing gets stopped here......... com'n Lewis.

Maybe this is an eliminator to fight Alex :OhYes: .

Pittman vs Kanofski, i really don't know what to make of this fight, I know who will win but I'm curious as to why both parties would want it.

HD, had a call from Lewis's trainer Terry Devlin yesterday, they are well prepared and primed, he really beleives they will stop SBW, he may just outlast and be too tough for him.

I doubt he will be as aerobically fit as SBW, but he may just be too tough and have too much fight in him, well here's hoping it'll be a good fight who ever wins anyway.

While i am no rap on Williams and truly beleive he is nothing more than a circus act, he is pretty popular in his own country, We also must remember that he is still a novice, just two fights against real palooka's.

I have the feeling there will be no-one here live to watch it, he is not a Main Event draw card in anyway you wanna look at it, but like water, he will find his own level, the circus will end when he fights someone that can fight a little.

Cheers,
Brad
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N2 Shape wrote:Why does that suprise you the fight was in Aussie :box: :OhYes:

Also interesting to note Baff has only had 2 fights since his fight with Kashie whereas Kashie has had what 20+ off the top of my head!!!

I'll be in the corner of Kashie come fight night should be a decent scrap! :bag:

Craig, Good to see you back in the mix again my friend, Boxing in Kiwi is certainly a better place when you are in it, pass on my best to Kashie, he's a champion bloke, it will be a good fight with Biff (Daniel Baff) another good bloke as well.

Make sure you catch-up when here, While i won't be at the SBW v Lewis fight cos there's replays of Hogan's Heroes on that night, I'll catch you for a coffee/lunch here on the coast.

Also, I'll be in Kiwi twice in March, so i hope to catch up with you there as well, I'd love to see your gym,

Anyway, you got my contact details mate, don't forget to catch-up.

Cheers,
Brad
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kylamy wrote:
Hounddawg wrote:It's not a PPV and i hope the SBW thing gets stopped here......... com'n Lewis.

Maybe this is an eliminator to fight Alex :OhYes: .

Pittman vs Kanofski, i really don't know what to make of this fight, I know who will win but I'm curious as to why both parties would want it.

HD, had a call from Lewis's trainer Terry Devlin yesterday, they are well prepared and primed, he really beleives they will stop SBW, he may just outlast and be too tough for him.

I doubt he will be as aerobically fit as SBW, but he may just be too tough and have too much fight in him, well here's hoping it'll be a good fight who ever wins anyway.

While i am no rap on Williams and truly beleive he is nothing more than a circus act, he is pretty popular in his own country, We also must remember that he is still a novice, just two fights against real palooka's.

I have the feeling there will be no-one here live to watch it, he is not a Main Event draw card in anyway you wanna look at it, but like water, he will find his own level, the circus will end when he fights someone that can fight a little.

Cheers,
Brad
Thanks Brad, I watched The Carl Webb fight, Lewis defiantly has a chin....poor ol Carl, fitness has always been his Achilles heel, and it certainly hurt his confidence and his footy career this year.

I agree who will watch this here, SBW barely had a chance to get into his footy career before he could become a household name, he made the headlines for being the first man since Soloman Houmono to walk out on his team mates, however Solo had the love bug and the public forgave, SBW has the label of deserter, left a team who wasn't winning and took the money, in League circles that isn't a forgivable act.
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Hounddawg wrote:
kylamy wrote:
Hounddawg wrote:It's not a PPV and i hope the SBW thing gets stopped here......... com'n Lewis.

Maybe this is an eliminator to fight Alex :OhYes: .

Pittman vs Kanofski, i really don't know what to make of this fight, I know who will win but I'm curious as to why both parties would want it.

HD, had a call from Lewis's trainer Terry Devlin yesterday, they are well prepared and primed, he really beleives they will stop SBW, he may just outlast and be too tough for him.

I doubt he will be as aerobically fit as SBW, but he may just be too tough and have too much fight in him, well here's hoping it'll be a good fight who ever wins anyway.

While i am no rap on Williams and truly beleive he is nothing more than a circus act, he is pretty popular in his own country, We also must remember that he is still a novice, just two fights against real palooka's.

I have the feeling there will be no-one here live to watch it, he is not a Main Event draw card in anyway you wanna look at it, but like water, he will find his own level, the circus will end when he fights someone that can fight a little.

Cheers,
Brad
Thanks Brad, I watched The Carl Webb fight, Lewis defiantly has a chin....poor ol Carl, fitness has always been his Achilles heel, and it certainly hurt his confidence and his footy career this year.

I agree who will watch this here, SBW barely had a chance to get into his footy career before he could become a household name, he made the headlines for being the first man since Soloman Houmono to walk out on his team mates, however Solo had the love bug and the public forgave, SBW has the label of deserter, left a team who wasn't winning and took the money, in League circles that isn't a forgivable act.

HD, I agree with you 100%, but i think if you look a little deeper, you'll find it was the grubbly little manager who instigated it all, I have heard that SBW isn't a bad bloke, and the circumstances where both left their clubs are vastly different.

Solo was simply heart broken and crying out for his girl, and i can understand and maybe justify that, but i can never accept what SBW was enticed into doing, he broke all the basic and ethical rules there were, his Manager tried to destroy the very fabric of a mans word, by coersing him into breaking his contract, but it was all about Money and I am not surprised about that when you look who Manages him, I beleive sometime it's not just about the money, there are ethics and rules in place, and for the most part, every sportsperson will abide by those rules, but not this bloke, he thinks he is bigger than the sport.

I beleive, as do many other boxing people that the quicker this Manager and his two drawcards get beaten and then he get out of boxing, the better the sport will be, that is also my personal opinion, they do nothing good for the sport except rape it to death, their undercards are an embarassment because they will not pay anyone, except in tickets, this in itself is just wrong, but that's just another personal opinion.

Anyway, time will tell, chat again soon.

Brad
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The common denominator between the sagas of Solo and Sonny is of course that man Mundine.

When Solo was beguiled by the Pleasure Machine and bailed out on his club, ironically Mundine went after him to prise them apart and return him to Rugby League. But the Pleasure Machine drained Solo of his essence and he was never the same footballer again.

Next Mundine did the dirty on his club by walking out mid season leaving them in the lurch. A couple of years later Sonny did the same to the Bulldogs in his dash for cash. The same manager was involved and orchestrated both these two walkouts and was behind the back door when honor and principles were handed out.
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Beltane wrote:The common denominator between the sagas of Solo and Sonny is of course that man Mundine.

When Solo was beguiled by the Pleasure Machine and bailed out on his club, ironically Mundine went after him to prise them apart and return him to Rugby League. But the Pleasure Machine drained Solo of his essence and he was never the same footballer again.

Next Mundine did the dirty on his club by walking out mid season leaving them in the lurch. A couple of years later Sonny did the same to the Bulldogs in his dash for cash. The same manager was involved and orchestrated both these two walkouts and was behind the back door when honor and principles were handed out.

Beltane, I could not have said it better and you are 100% right regarding the two and the manner in which they departed their clubs, that same manager is the one who stood over this state by holding their own weigh-in, it was a disgraceful act, but they probably also knew the strength of the branch here in Queensland and they knew that the branch here has no real power and simply bluffs their way through, and have been for years.

I doubt the manager was around when they were handing out honor, principles and ethics when he was born Ha-ha, the high and mighty often have a long way to fall, Somehow i doubt he has no idea what he is about to hit when he does fall.

I for one will be rapt to see the rear end of him, his cronies and thugs.

Cheers
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Beltane wrote:The common denominator between the sagas of Solo and Sonny is of course that man Mundine.

When Solo was beguiled by the Pleasure Machine and bailed out on his club, ironically Mundine went after him to prise them apart and return him to Rugby League. But the Pleasure Machine drained Solo of his essence and he was never the same footballer again.

Next Mundine did the dirty on his club by walking out mid season leaving them in the lurch. A couple of years later Sonny did the same to the Bulldogs in his dash for cash. The same manager was involved and orchestrated both these two walkouts and was behind the back door when honor and principles were handed out.
Solo and choc have been close friends since they were school kids. Solo let his little head rule over his big head, all choc did was point this out.
Mundine walked away from the game. He saw his future in boxing not rugby league.
SBW walked from a club he was not happy with. He was not the first and he wont be the last.
Honor,Principles and Ethics should not be mentioned when talking about Rugby League clubs. There is a girl in Coffs Harbour who found that out. Ask Gary Hughes how much Honor, Principles and Honour the Bulldogs had when they hung him out to dry after the Coffs incident. When a Leagues club sees better value for money in a new signing they will punt a player in a heartbeat, when a player punts a club for a better deal he becomes this
traitor with no principles,honor or ethics. Go figure.
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franko1990 wrote:gee Leapai is really stepping up in this fight :)

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
American journeymen still tend to be a lot tougher than the ones from the Pacific...
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Marlin wrote:
franko1990 wrote:gee Leapai is really stepping up in this fight :)

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
American journeymen still tend to be a lot tougher than the ones from the Pacific...
yeah you are right there Marlin, i didn't look at it that way he could be fighting alot worse opposition...
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Leapai's opponent also posts on BoxRec :D
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Leapai's opponent Jason Barnett is a good bloke, i chat to him alot. Not many will no Barnett has been offered the Leapai fight on more than one occasion in the past and for whatever reasons Team Leapai pulled out. So I know Jason is chomping at the bit to get in there and finally thow some leather with Alex! Should be a decent stoush!!

Also cheers Brad, apprecate all the work you do and have done for myself recently top bloke.

Will def catch up whilst im on the coast mate and we must do the same in NZ!
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If any one is going to SBW fight,New Zealand has a Crusier weight making his pro debt in the name of David Aloua who represented NZ at 2010 Commonwealth games at heavy weight...Let as no what you boys think :bag:
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I'll be there CJ fly out Next thursday ;-)
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Caveman , to suggest Daniel Baff has been trying for an easy win on T.V. to knock a bloke who has had only one loss 2nd fight) out of thirteen is a bit stupid as he has not lost other fights on T.V. including a win on Jones undercard in the U.S. to a fighter who has fought World Champs. However due to injury has not fought since . He is not a big head and takes no fighter lightly and has respect for all his opponents. Also mate try a ring around of the Aust light heavy fighters and see how many are prepared to fight him (including McConville). I wish him all the best . :shame: :shame:



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John25 wrote:Caveman , to suggest Daniel Baff has been trying for an easy win on T.V. to knock a bloke who has had only one loss 2nd fight) out of thirteen is a bit stupid as he has not lost other fights on T.V. including a win on Jones undercard in the U.S. to a fighter who has fought World Champs. However due to injury has not fought since . He is not a big head and takes no fighter lightly and has respect for all his opponents. Also mate try a ring around of the Aust light heavy fighters and see how many are prepared to fight him (including McConville). I wish him all the best . :shame: :shame:



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Conville

Can Baff still get a fight with James Chan, that is a fight that i think Baff should pursue.
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Word from the Canterbury Bulls last weekend is that Williams still can't run. I get the impression they are not terribly happy about him fighting this weekend with their first Super 15 game on against arch rivals the Auckland Blues on February 19. Williams still hopes to be fit for that match despite his recovery being slower than he thought.

However, Williams has it in his contract that he can fight twice a year during the Rugby season. If he wrenches his knee in the fight the Bulls' fan base might start asking difficult questions.
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Brute wrote:Word from the Canterbury Bulls last weekend is that Williams still can't run. I get the impression they are not terribly happy about him fighting this weekend with their first Super 15 game on against arch rivals the Auckland Blues on February 19. Williams still hopes to be fit for that match despite his recovery being slower than he thought.

However, Williams has it in his contract that he can fight twice a year during the Rugby season. If he wrenches his knee in the fight the Bulls' fan base might start asking difficult questions.
im pretty sure he plays for the Crusaders...because the Bulls are from Pretoria in South Africa.
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Also Sonny's contract with the All Blacks runs only to the completion of the World Cup in October '11 and his contract with the Canterbury in the Super 15 is for 2011 only.

So Sonny will go after the money again after the World Cup, probably back to French Rugby as he cannot sustain a PPV boxing career just fighting stiffs. Eventually the suckers will wise up.

With his propensity for regular injuries throughout his various football career wanderings, he has been tagged a plasticine man!
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as i have said b4 john25, mcconville has agreed to fight baff twice,baff said no, now baff wants 2 jump over the fighters who have worked their arses off to get in a position to challenge for the title,he is not even rated in the top 15,if he wants a go,EARN IT, same as everyone else
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caveman wrote:as i have said b4 john25, mcconville has agreed to fight baff twice,baff said no, now baff wants 2 jump over the fighters who have worked their arses off to get in a position to challenge for the title,he is not even rated in the top 15,if he wants a go,EARN IT, same as everyone else
he hasnt fought in 13 months so hes dropped out of the ratings (boxrec ratings anyway)

in fact hes had 3 fights since december 2007 :o needs to get busy. as does kerry foley
2 good prospects who are far too inactive to be serious about a furutre in the sport
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adamheight wrote:
caveman wrote:as i have said b4 john25, mcconville has agreed to fight baff twice,baff said no, now baff wants 2 jump over the fighters who have worked their arses off to get in a position to challenge for the title,he is not even rated in the top 15,if he wants a go,EARN IT, same as everyone else
he hasnt fought in 13 months so hes dropped out of the ratings (boxrec ratings anyway)

in fact hes had 3 fights since december 2007 :o needs to get busy. as does kerry foley
2 good prospects who are far too inactive to be serious about a furutre in the sport

I know Foley has just recovered from a pretty big injury, Baff has been getting fights around the world to the detriment of inactivity.
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Just to set the record straight boys about Daniel Baff it is a load of bull to say McConville has agreed to fight Daniel on two occasions and Daniel has pulled out as I personally spoke to Nick McConville prior to the green -Jones fight he refused the fight then after we has lined up another opponent and shorty before the fight he rang and agreed to fight . As it turned out Daniels Dr brought forward an operation to his elbow thus the reason Daniel never fought on that occasion and has been sidelined recovering since.This is the only occasion except for the fight Gold Coast on 29th that an offer has neen made to McConville to fight Daniel both times McConville has refused .
As to Daniel getting fights around the World just to correct my very informed friend he has had 1 ONE fight around the WORLD which was his last fight which was in America. So serious injury and the fact that his last opponent failed to turn up to fight ( thought he arrived in Aust) is the only reason for his inactivity.

Correct me if Im wrong but I seem to remember McConville fought Phill Malley when he was rated 9, what happened to the
boys who trained their butts off in front of him but I suppose a record of 2-0-1 is pretty enticing. So if you want to post something about boxing and boxers before running off at the mouth check your facts.
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Welcome to Australian & Pacific Zoo :D
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Baff wrote:Just to set the record straight boys about Daniel Baff it is a load of bull to say McConville has agreed to fight Daniel on two occasions and Daniel has pulled out as I personally spoke to Nick McConville prior to the green -Jones fight he refused the fight then after we has lined up another opponent and shorty before the fight he rang and agreed to fight . As it turned out Daniels Dr brought forward an operation to his elbow thus the reason Daniel never fought on that occasion and has been sidelined recovering since.This is the only occasion except for the fight Gold Coast on 29th that an offer has neen made to McConville to fight Daniel both times McConville has refused .
As to Daniel getting fights around the World just to correct my very informed friend he has had 1 ONE fight around the WORLD which was his last fight which was in America. So serious injury and the fact that his last opponent failed to turn up to fight ( thought he arrived in Aust) is the only reason for his inactivity.

Correct me if Im wrong but I seem to remember McConville fought Phill Malley when he was rated 9, what happened to the
boys who trained their butts off in front of him but I suppose a record of 2-0-1 is pretty enticing. So if you want to post something about boxing and boxers before running off at the mouth check your facts.
Are you Daniel Baff?
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Da Voice wrote:Welcome to Australian & Pacific Zoo :D
Says the resident goose :neutral:
Carlos-Wigan wrote:
Are you Daniel Baff?
I was waiting for some one to ask that question :lol:
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