Hypothetical Match-Up Game

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bengulnaci1 wrote:Roasario starts by keeping it at range and Castillo has trouble getting inside as Rosarios fires his blockbuster right often.

Round 2-3 follow a similiar pattern but Castillo is warming up and hurting Rosario with body punches.

Rounds 4-6 continue with Castillo now the agressor and Rosarios getting a little desperate. Round 7 comes and Rosario decides either he goes for broke or just gets ground down.

After firing a few hard rights, one makes Castillo stumble and Rosario goes to town and now hurts Castillo, who tries to grab hold. With Rosario pounding hard and breathing even harder, the ref calls it with a bloody and bruised Catillo saved , on his feet.

Rosario TKO 7.

Rocky Graziano v Stanley Ketchel - 15 Rounds World Middleweight Title

Wilfredo Gomez v Tony Canzoneri - 15 Rounds World Bantamweight Title
Bringing this thread back!

Ketchel by KO in 8. Graziano would take it inside on Ketchel early, but would get picked off on the way in often. Ketchel slows him down and finds a home for a smashing right, taking Rocky out for the count.

Canzoneri by UD. He was extremely fast, especially at this weight, and would out box Gomez. Gomez may score a knockdown or two, but wouldn't be able to put Canzoneri away.

Tsuyoshi Hamada vs Arturo Gatti @ 140...
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Gatti gets the late stoppage, in thrilling fashion, while behind on the cards. Hamada decisons him in both of the subsuquent rematches.

Up next..


James Toney vs Jake Lamotta in a MW affair
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tzyuforever wrote:Gatti gets the late stoppage, in thrilling fashion, while behind on the cards. Hamada decisons him in both of the subsuquent rematches.

Up next..


James Toney vs Jake Lamotta in a MW affair
Toney --despite landing the bigger flashier shots over the first half -- just can't keep up down the stretch. Lamotta by close UD.

Juan Manuel Marquez (Pacquiao fight) vs Goyo Vargas (K. Kelley fight), 12 rounds, featherweight...
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marquez by late stoppage


aaron pryor vs manny pacquaio
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140 seems like the most reasonable weight for this, and I'll make it 15 rounds because its more epic that way :DD .
This would be back and forth action; easily FOTY material. I see it being very even throughout about 10 rounds, with Pacman wilting a little more than Pryor down the stretch and a disparity in clean shots landing developing in Pryor's favor.
I'll go with Pryor by stoppage in 14 or so grueling rounds.

Keeping it @ 140, two defensive masters:
Nicolino Locche vs Floyd Mayweather
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Mayweather on points as Locche toughness and experience prevents him scoring the knockout.

Next up

Sergio Martinez v Sugar Ray Leonard: 12 Rounds Middleweight
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Mayweather on points as Locche toughness and experience prevents him scoring the knockout.

Next up

Sergio Martinez v Sugar Ray Leonard: 12 Rounds Middleweight
Leonard by wide points margin.

Next up.

David Haye (vs Valuev) vs Earnie Shavers (vs Larry Holmes I)
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Ortiz by narrow UD.

Ricky Hatton (2007) vs. Ricardo Mayorga (2003) At WW...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Ortiz by narrow UD.

Ricky Hatton (2007) vs. Ricardo Mayorga (2003) At WW...

Mayorga's too big & strong for Ricky.

I like Hatton but he's another one of those guys whose career is distorted by modern dehydration/rehydration technology; put him against an old-time 10 stoner & he's in with a shout due to actually weighing a stone heavier than those guys once they get in the ring, but against a dude doing the same thing but naturally seven pounds bigger (particularly a big strong one like Mayorga), he's toast. He'd beat up Mayorga for six/seven rounds due to shorter punching & superior defence, until he began to tire, & then he'd get smashed up.

Mayorga in ten. Horrible, blood-soaked, foul-filled, life-shortening fight.

I shall now take a break from my normal programming (which looking back seems to feature an inordinate number of obscure Mexican lightweights, sorry about that) to bring you:-

Ray Mercer (Morrison fight) vs Ron Lyle (Foreman fight), 12 rounds.
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BarryWashington wrote:
Datsue wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Ortiz by narrow UD.

Ricky Hatton (2007) vs. Ricardo Mayorga (2003) At WW...

Mayorga's too big & strong for Ricky.

I like Hatton but he's another one of those guys whose career is distorted by modern dehydration/rehydration technology; put him against an old-time 10 stoner & he's in with a shout due to actually weighing a stone heavier than those guys once they get in the ring, but against a dude doing the same thing but naturally seven pounds bigger (particularly a big strong one like Mayorga), he's toast. He'd beat up Mayorga for six/seven rounds due to shorter punching & superior defence, until he began to tire, & then he'd get smashed up.

Mayorga in ten. Horrible, blood-soaked, foul-filled, life-shortening fight.

I shall now take a break from my normal programming (which looking back seems to feature an inordinate number of obscure Mexican lightweights, sorry about that) to bring you:-

Ray Mercer (Morrison fight) vs Ron Lyle (Foreman fight), 12 rounds.
I would rather take the Ray Mercer from the Bert Cooper fight or the Lennox Lewis fight. Morrison doesn't have the chin that Lyle has, Cooper is very close to it though.

Also, who here has watched the Lyle/Bugner fight? I would be interested to see that.

This is a great match-up (Lyle vs. Mercer). I can't call it. I think Mercer on his best night would edge it 115-113, but, I could see people going w/Lyle.

So, I'll take Mercer 115-113, but, he has to be in his best, if not then I'd take Lyle.

Match-Up (stay w/Heavyweights):

Derrick Jefferson vs. Hasim Rahman
Rahman takes on his world level experience on points.

Next out.
Sugar Shane Mosley v Roberto Duran at Lightweight, Welterweight and Light Middleweight.
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Durán --with the proviso that he trained & didn't spend camp fuckin' whores & drinking & gorging like some kind of latter-day Byzantine Emperor-- on his night, beats Mosley at any weight. Simply far better technically & so much the better boxer; & if he could hang with Barkley (close-ish loss that it should've been) at the age of forty-six thousand & 17 then he knows too much at any juncture for Aspartame Shane. I don't care what anyone says about Roid Mosley being strong, Barkley would've snapped him like a twig & Roberto still sat him on his arse.

So, you know. Durán, Durán, Durán,.


Arturo Frias vs Michael Katsidis, 12 rounds.
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Datsue wrote:Durán --with the proviso that he trained & didn't spend camp fuckin' whores & drinking & gorging like some kind of latter-day Byzantine Emperor-- on his night, beats Mosley at any weight. Simply far better technically & so much the better boxer; & if he could hang with Barkley (close-ish loss that it should've been) at the age of forty-six thousand & 17 then he knows too much at any juncture for Aspartame Shane. I don't care what anyone says about Roid Mosley being strong, Barkley would've snapped him like a twig & Roberto still sat him on his arse.

So, you know. Durán, Durán, Durán,.


Arturo Frias vs Michael Katsidis, 12 rounds.
Frias on points.

Chavez (vs Rosario) vs Mayweather (vs Hatton)
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Weren't those different divisions? I think Chavez did Rosario in at LW, & Mayweather definitely fought Hatton at WW.

In any event, Chavez beats Mayweather via a late stoppage in a great fight.

To lower the tone considerably...

Tommy Morrison (1993) vs. Hasim Rahman (2001)...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Weren't those different divisions? I think Chavez did Rosario in at LW, & Mayweather definitely fought Hatton at WW.

In any event, Chavez beats Mayweather via a late stoppage in a great fight.

To lower the tone considerably...

Tommy Morrison (1993) vs. Hasim Rahman (2001)...
Rahman is up on points using his jab but gets careless in the middle rounds and Morrison wins with via left hook in the 8th.

Next up:
Middleweights
Sam Langford (1908) vs. Marvin Hagler (1983)
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perrycarter wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Weren't those different divisions? I think Chavez did Rosario in at LW, & Mayweather definitely fought Hatton at WW.

In any event, Chavez beats Mayweather via a late stoppage in a great fight.

To lower the tone considerably...

Tommy Morrison (1993) vs. Hasim Rahman (2001)...
Rahman is up on points using his jab but gets careless in the middle rounds and Morrison wins with via left hook in the 8th.

Next up:
Middleweights
Sam Langford (1908) vs. Marvin Hagler (1983)
I'll take Hagler on points with his constant pressure and workrate. How about.

Roberto Duran v Sugar Shane Mosley..... At Lightweight, Welterweight and Light Middle.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:
perrycarter wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Weren't those different divisions? I think Chavez did Rosario in at LW, & Mayweather definitely fought Hatton at WW.

In any event, Chavez beats Mayweather via a late stoppage in a great fight.

To lower the tone considerably...

Tommy Morrison (1993) vs. Hasim Rahman (2001)...
Rahman is up on points using his jab but gets careless in the middle rounds and Morrison wins with via left hook in the 8th.

Next up:
Middleweights
Sam Langford (1908) vs. Marvin Hagler (1983)
I'll take Hagler on points with his constant pressure and workrate. How about.

Roberto Duran v Sugar Shane Mosley..... At Lightweight, Welterweight and Light Middle.
Light: Prime Duran by late stoppage - ealy rounds are close, but DUran comes on strong down the stretch.

Welter: The Duran who beat Leonard wins by UD15. Any other Duran loses by UD15.

Light Middle. Mosley wins a very close decision over an unmotivated Duran.

Next.

Livingstone Bramble (vs Ray Mancini) vs Ricky Hatton (vs Kostya Tszyu)
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I suppose I'll take Bramble by a decision.

Not sure if these have been done, but...

Ike Quartey (of the Oscar fight) vs. Cotto (of the Margarito fight) at 147 in 12 rounds

Rafael Marquez circa 2005-2007 at Bantamweight vs. Nonito Donaire of the present... I think I know what the answer will be, but... at 118 in 12 rounds

And the main event... Jerry Quarry vs. David Haye at Heavyweight, 12 rounds...
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BarryWashington wrote:I'll go w/:

Quartey by Decision
Donaire by Decision
Quarry by KO/TKO

My matchup:

Gerald McClellan vs. Chris Eubank (12 Rounds)
McClellan rocks Eubank several times but is unable to put him down so has to take a 12 round decision.

Next up

Eubank v Alan Minter 12 rounds.
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Minter for me keeping the jab in Eubank's face all night long not letting him get set to through his bog shots, if Minter doesn't get involved in a messy fight then he takes a wide UD

Napoles vs Leonard
15 Welterweight rounds

Hopkins vs Hagler MW
12 rounds
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alexpaterson wrote:Minter for me keeping the jab in Eubank's face all night long not letting him get set to through his bog shots, if Minter doesn't get involved in a messy fight then he takes a wide UD

Napoles vs Leonard
15 Welterweight rounds

Hopkins vs Hagler MW
12 rounds
I will go for Leonard to defeat Mantequila for me as he has the better chin and footwork. As for Hopkins v Hagler hmm much touger Hopkins has got the reach etc, but Hagler has got the power in his punches so I reckon Hagler on a contraversal split in a thrilling fight of the year candidate.

Next up.
Thomas Hearns v Bernard Hopkins: 12 rounds Middleweight.
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I feel Hopkins would set traps for his overhand right and land it a few times but he isn't that big a puncher so I'm not sure it would hurt Hearns to bad, Hearns could dictate the pace with his straight shots and back B-Hop up. Tough fight to call but Hearns close, competitive UD

Buchanan vs J.M Marquez
Lightweight 15 rounds

Bratton vs Mosley
Welterweight 15 rounds
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Bumped. Get the thread going again. :TU:
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Opener
Willie Meehan (vs Dempsey) V Butterbean (vs Holmes) 10 rds

Support
Harry Greb V Joe Calzaghe 15 rds

Main Event
Carmen Basilio V Pacquiao
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Ketchel wrote:Opener
Willie Meehan (vs Dempsey) V Butterbean (vs Holmes) 10 rds

Support
Harry Greb V Joe Calzaghe 15 rds

Main Event
Carmen Basilio V Pacquiao
For me

Meehan's movement will see him take a wide points over a slow butter bean.
Calzaghe's southpaw stance high workrate style and handspeed will beat Greb in the early rounds but through rounds 13-15 runs out of gas but still holds out for a points decision win.

and finally
Pacquiao's speed and aggression will see Bassilo's face get busted up with which results in a cuts stoppage loss in the middle rounds.

Next up using the three fight bill
Roy Jones v Lucian Bute: 12 Rounds Super Middleweight
Kelly Pavlik v Arthur Abraham 12 rounds Middleweight
John Conteh v Nathan Cleverly 15 rounds Light Heavyweight
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Bute doesn't have the reflexes to avoid Jones pot shots, Bute won't be able to counter as Jones will throw his punches and get out not giving Bute room to throw, eventually stopping him in a one sided beat down around the 8th

Battle of the one dimensional Middleweights, I see Abraham struggling with Pavlik's high workrate and aggression not letting AA get off with his big shots, I also think Kelly's body shots would have a big effect on this fight, Pavlik UD for me.

Conteh is a class above Clev at this stage anyway. Conteh's jab wouldn't let Clev into range and wouldn't let him use his workrate! Conteh's superior boxing skills sees him win a very wide UD with Nathan's gameness seeing him through to a decision.

Toney vs Zale
15 rounds Middleweight
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