Brian London-British HW Champ 1958-59 thread

[Brutu]

For the European Heavyweight title.check out the ending of the fight.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=41599

[jimglen]

his brother looked pretty tidy there, was he a fighter too, must have been!

[bennie]

The infamous "Brawl at Porthcawl."

[BoxBuzz]

at least it was all kept in the ring, unlike the the Bowe, Golata incident.

[Brutu]

It would have been cool tho to have seen Andrew Golata been able to take a few swings at that thug/imbecile who was beating him over the head with that walkie talkie.But at least the a-hole had to buy another walkie talkie afterward.

[funso banjo baby]

check out one of the marx brothers getting milled :P can you spot it

[Brutu]

Here is Patterson vrs London(1959)

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=64266

[Brutu]

link to a recent interview(2008)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7457725.stm

[Brutu]

Muhammad Ali vrs Brian London August.6.1966 Earl's Court London England.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWnt4Z2Z9N0

[Darling]

Muhammad Ali vrs Brian London August.6.1966 Earl's Court London England.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWnt4Z2Z9N0

Did Gran have that one as an Ali loss?

How about Gran Jnr?

[Brutu]

Muhammad Ali vrs Brian London August.6.1966 Earl's Court London England.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWnt4Z2Z9N0

Curiously all the years I have watched ESPN CLASSIC,I have never seen this fight shown on it.
Even though
Muhammad Ali was at his peak around 1966-1967.

[Flump]

London had a very healthy (or unhealthy) amount of names on his record, on his day he was a dangerous fighter, others he was cannon fodder but look at the names:

Ali, Patterson, Johannson, Nino Valdes Quarry, Machen, Bugner, Walker, Richardson, Pastrano, Cooper, Folley, Spencer, Henry Clark, McNeeley, Rademacher, Joe Erskine, that's a slew of champions and contenders, and he kept his marbles and did well after he retired.

[palooka]

his brother looked pretty tidy there, was he a fighter too, must have been!

I'm pretty sure he was in 2 Para with my father in law. Apparently he was a nice fella and a real hard nut.

[Brutu]

Does anyone here have any information concerning a book that was published about 2 years ago about Brian London?
Was it an autobiography,or a biography that Brian London cooperated with the author?

[Bladder]

[Ambling Alp]

The fight that London had that always intrigued me is his fight with Johansson. He knocked Ing cold in the last round. The bell rang before the 10-count. Ingo got the decison.
At the very least that was a very strange ending.
Also, London claimed that the bell rang early in order to save Johannson.
It's funny that you almost never hear about this fight. Would love to see it; the last round in particular.

[Brutu]

Thanks for the information.I never knew this book was even published.
Here is a link to the publisher.

http://www.trafford.com/Bookstore/BookD ... -000166402

[Brutu]

Was this fight an actual boxing match?

http://books.google.com/books?id=X70DAA ... pg=PA55&dq

[Woller]

Ampling Alp why are you saying this crap??

The last round of that fight are to be found everywhere, I have had it myself for over 25 years.
There is nothing to it. Ingo is knocked down/stumbling down - takes a short count - rises before the bell using a very slack rope that makes it look like he is in trouble, and the bell ends the fight. Ingo won a huge decision.
If Brian claimed victory sometimes then write it of as a drunken journalist stuff or Henry Cooper claiming that Cassius Clay got a five minutes rest after he knocked him down.

Woller

[Ambling Alp]

As I said I have never seen the fight.
I have always heard that Johannson was still down when the bell rang.
You are saying that Johannson did get up before the bell?

In the book Facing Ali London said" It was a hell of a fight. It was a good fight,but I can't say that I was out in front. Anyway,the last round comes up and I hit him ion the chin and knock him spark out. He was out. And they cut the bell short. Two minutes. I could not defend meself because I had no manger. That's what you want a manager for".

Maybe London is making this up, I don't know. I had not heard that round was supposedly cut short before.

Has anyone else seen this fight?

[Brutu]

Here is a link to a real interesting photograph of the 12th round of
Ingemar Johansson vs Brian London April.1963.

http://www.antekprizering.com/johansssonlondon9830.html

[sweetsci]

I too have always heard that Johansson was still out, like cold, when the final bell rang, and that he was saved by the final bell and won the decision.

A Google News Archive search confirms Woller's description. Here's the story: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=nk ... ndon&hl=en

[Brutu]

Johansson may not have been technically knocked out in the the last minute of the round,
He was back on his feet when the the ref was still counting, but out of it when the bell rang.
He was barred for a month from the ring after it until a through examination proved he was okay to fight again.
In the meantime he announced his retirement from the ring at age 32.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yD ... 3714920&dq

[Ambling Alp]

Have you actaully seen the fight? From what I am reading, it sounds like he had not got up when the bell rang, though it's not 100% clear. I have read in several books that he was still down.

For example, in the Boxing Register (3rd Edition p. 395) it says that johannson was "literally saved by the bell".
The Encyclopedia of Boxing" says that Ingo was "apparently out when the final bell rang."

Thanks Brutu and sweet sci for posting those newspaper articles.

[Brutu]

Have you actaully seen the fight? From what I am reading, it sounds like he had not got up when the bell rang, though it's not 100% clear. I have read in several books that he was still down.

For example, in the Boxing Register (3rd Edition p. 395) it says that johannson was "literally saved by the bell".
The Encyclopedia of Boxing" says that Ingo was "apparently out when the final bell rang."

Thanks Brutu and sweet sci for posting those newspaper articles.

No, I haven't seen the film of the fight either.
But neither of those quotes you gave said he was unconcious on the canvas when the bell rang.
However,that the bell rang at 2 minutes is a new one to me.
Sort of sounds like the ending of the Ken Norton vs Scott Ledoux fight