Nicolay Valuev on Eurosport.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Jun 2005, 14:08

Tomorrow (Tuesday) 8pm Eurosport

Nicolay Valuev V Clifford Etienne.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 06 Jun 2005, 14:39

Do we not yet if this Valuev/Akinwande/Golota love traingle has been sorted out yet?

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 06 Jun 2005, 14:50

KOJOE90 wrote:Tomorrow (Tuesday) 8pm Eurosport

Nicolay Valuev V Clifford Etienne.

Good spot.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 06 Jun 2005, 15:11

jomothepure wrote:Do we not yet if this Valuev/Akinwande/Golota love traingle has been sorted out yet?

Valuev will not meet Akinwande. From yesterdays news by Per Aake Persson on http://www.knock-out.dk :
Russian heavy Nikolai Valuev will not be on Sauerland Event´s July 16 show and the planned showdown with Henry Akinwande is off. Valuev, the WBA # 1 will instead concentrate on a possible interim titlefight in September or go straight for John Ruiz.

From todays news: Valuev will by the way not, repeat not, take part in an "interim" titlefight as indicated in yesterday´s report but possible in an eliminator before challenging WBA heavy champ John Ruiz.

jab · Post by **jab** » 06 Jun 2005, 16:45

Eliminator? Do you know agaisnt whom?

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 06 Jun 2005, 17:13

jab wrote:Eliminator? Do you know agaisnt whom?

Golota if Dick Kon gets him grubby little way. That actually made me sick, the way he spoke about giving Golota another crack at the WBA like that as if he owned it. (Yeah, I know he does pretty much, but to be so blatent and open about how he basically controls WBA title fights and all the rest is an absolute joke.)

jab · Post by **jab** » 06 Jun 2005, 19:03

Yeah, Golota seems to have more chances given than anyone else in recent memory.
Would be a good practice for Valuev, but frankly Golota does not deserve to have an eliminatory for yet another Title fight. He should win a few fights before given this chance.

And also Valuev should have one or two fights before being given a shot at Ruiz. I think that Valuev will beat Ruiz anyway, but still he should earn his title shot.
IT would help him too, because Ruiz is a veteran and knows many tricks Valuev does not yet know.

But a Golota fight probably wont help Valuev in terms of learning any new techniques, because Golota seems mentally not into boxing anymore. The Brewster fight was just shameful. Golota should know better than come dry for a titel fight. IT is not like he is an amator who doesnt know any better. Seems more like he didnt care anymore.

Latuch! · Post by **Latuch!** » 06 Jun 2005, 21:05

jab wrote:Golota should know better than come dry for a titel fight. IT is not like he is an amator who doesnt know any better. Seems more like he didnt care anymore.

Reportedly Golota didn't want anyone else but Colonna to wrap his hands with tapes (sorry my english here, I hope you know what i mean). And Colonna was in Adamek's corner of course. So Golota got his hand's wrapped only 10-15 minutes before the fight.

Is Colonna a poor trainer or Golota dumb, i don't know, but it is something wrong here.

jab · Post by **jab** » 06 Jun 2005, 22:00

Your English is ok. Far better than mine.

But the fact Golota was wrapped only 10-15 minutes before the fight doesnt mean he should have come bone dry. You can still break a sweat, shadow box, stretch etc, even if your hands arent wrapped.

Golota should have known better, after all he is pro and already had two title fights! Its not like a he was a green guy who had the excuse of not knowing any better.

He was dry and was caught before he could get into his rhythm.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 07 Jun 2005, 03:05

I'll just add in - WBA April rankings, Golota not in the top 15. (these created 24th May, after the Brewster fight.) So if Golota/Valuev becomes an official eliminator, that is an absolute crock of corrupt and puppetry shit. There's 8 or 9 guys who now deserve a shot. Nothing against Golota, of course.

Also, said this before, but that is shit how Valuev's camp drag Akinwande out of semi-retirement and then drop him.

Sod the lot of them, I tell you. The WBF is the sanctioning body for me, and alledgedly is a squeeky clean pussy cat

jab · Post by **jab** » 07 Jun 2005, 08:58

Jomo,

I agree, it was rotten.

But it was not Valuevs fault. It the promoting outfit that employs him that dragged the old Akinwande into the ring hoping to give Valuev some experience against a tall guy with long reach and good experience.
Akinwande though will get a few fights, regardless if Valuev goes on to fight Ruiz or fights Akinwande first. Henry will make some money, but he is going to retire soon. I dont think he entertained any long term plans.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 07 Jun 2005, 13:09

jab wrote:Jomo,

I agree, it was rotten. But it was not Valuevs fault. It the promoting outfit that employs him that dragged the old Akinwande into the ring hoping to give Valuev some experience against a tall guy with long reach and good experience.
Akinwande though will get a few fights, regardless if Valuev goes on to fight Ruiz or fights Akinwande first. Henry will make some money, but he is going to retire soon. I dont think he entertained any long term plans.

I'm not saying it's Valuev's fight at all (fight? FAULT) at all, and I'm sure uncle Henry won't be suicidle at the news or anything. I also think Valuev has earned, or is at least blaringly obviously primed up for a WBA shot. Just grumbling at the general scum politics of it all.

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 07 Jun 2005, 15:05

KOJOE90 wrote:Tomorrow (Tuesday) 8pm Eurosport

Nicolay Valuev V Clifford Etienne.

Damn Eurosport. I'm tuned in and all I'm seeing is Rally Cars.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 07 Jun 2005, 15:08

Blame Tennis

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 07 Jun 2005, 17:10

If Valuev does ever challenge Ruiz for the WBA title that is going to be one ugly fight, on all kinds of levels.

rook · Post by **rook** » 07 Jun 2005, 18:38

Well I'm in Holland and it was on Eurosport over here.. :P
Anyway this Valuev guy is something else!!!

First time I've seen him fight and it was bizarre

So much so my housemate who's not into boxing whatsoever watched the whole thing with an open jaw! Etienne was 6ft 2" (according to the commentator) has beat Lamon Brewster, and is considered a solid heavyweight gatekeeper, but he looked like a flyweight tackling a Cruiserweight!!

Valuev was tossing him around the ring, pushing him over, and even knocked him on his arse when Etienne tried to run into him!! He looks mean as well, maybe he can create waves in the heavyweight division?
Not a great spectacle but worth tuning into..

Anyway as a side note who else thinks the Eurosport Boxing commentator is quality?!

Has to be the best in the business!
Sarcastic bastard, the guy seems to revel in the fact he commentates on crap, one-sided, corrupt fights every chance he gets..
Favourite quote earlier... "The lighter regarded the belt is (WBA Intercontinental Heavyweight Title), the bigger the organisation seems to make it.. jesus.... Valuev still can't get this one round his waist!"

split_decision · Post by **split_decision** » 08 Jun 2005, 04:42

That fight last night was hilarious, i couldnt stop laughing when Ettienne ran into the Beast and got knocked on his arse.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 08 Jun 2005, 06:04

The Valuev ring entrance was bizzare in itself

the singing and then stepping over the ropes.

The fight gets funnier everytime I watch it

J · Post by J » 08 Jun 2005, 06:08

yeha i thought that very strange.

it was was almost keystone kops stuff in there.

when i watched the fight last night i did howeve rthink to myself anyone who can reach valuev's chin is goinng kick the shit out of him.

Ive totally changed me mind Vitali would make him cry by the 5th.

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 08 Jun 2005, 06:53

J wrote:yeha i thought that very strange.

it was was almost keystone kops stuff in there.

when i watched the fight last night i did howeve rthink to myself anyone who can reach valuev's chin is goinng kick the shit out of him.

Ive totally changed me mind Vitali would make him cry by the 5th.

I think next tier down of big heavyweights would take him out too. Hasim Rahman for example should be able to waste him.

It's the first time i've seen him and it was enjoyable (in a circus type of way).

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 07:46

I think he'll definitely beat Ruiz. It's amazing watching him fight when you see how much bigger he is.

Here's my favourite Valuev pic.

I thought it was a fake at first but that is for real....

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 08 Jun 2005, 07:55

nickd wrote:I think he'll definitely beat Ruiz..

I'm not quite so sure about that. In theory he should do, because he fights a lot like Ruiz and should beat him at his own game. But Ruiz has a nasty habit of being able to negate all but the best boxers and Nikolay is very easy to hit. If Valuev can get him good shape for a change and pressure him hard throughout he has a great chance, but I don't see it as a foregone conclusion.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:03

Chopping Right wrote:
nickd wrote:I think he'll definitely beat Ruiz..
I'm not quite so sure about that. In theory he should do, because he fights a lot like Ruiz and should beat him at his own game. But Ruiz has a nasty habit of being able to negate all but the best boxers and Nikolay is very easy to hit. If Valuev can get him good shape for a change and pressure him hard throughout he has a great chance, but I don't see it as a foregone conclusion.

How on earth is Ruiz going to jab and grab a guy that big? Valuev will throw him all over the place.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:10

you can get the highlights of Valuev v Etienne at http://www.boxen.com

it aint pretty but its effective.... last shot was a rabbit punch mind you

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:10

nickd wrote:
Chopping Right wrote:
nickd wrote:I think he'll definitely beat Ruiz..
I'm not quite so sure about that. In theory he should do, because he fights a lot like Ruiz and should beat him at his own game. But Ruiz has a nasty habit of being able to negate all but the best boxers and Nikolay is very easy to hit. If Valuev can get him good shape for a change and pressure him hard throughout he has a great chance, but I don't see it as a foregone conclusion.
How on earth is Ruiz going to jab and grab a guy that big? Valuev will throw him all over the place.

Yeah, I think grabing and leaning is not gonna do anything but tire Ruiz out.

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