Most Overrated Fighters

[bollox]

Regarding Chavez being over-rated, I find it difficult to come up with a single name that he didn't fight. During his (long) prime I'd look at the ratings for names that would give him a decent fight, and invariably he'd already beaten them or would go on to beat them. Usually with ease. A lot of those names were considered some of the cream of boxing at the time

The guy's certainly not over-rated and as time goes by and there's now 16 division 'champs' etc etc his accomplishments are infact starting to become under-rated if anything

[elmersalsa]

None of the fighters mentioned were overrated. They paid their dues.

[SUGARRAYSMELEE]

Manny Pacquiao.

[Scottrf]

To make an overrated list you should show, preferably with examples, where people rate them. Also, who overrates them; Historians, the general public or boxing fans? All very different to the extent of rendering most overrated lists pointless.

Nethertheless a weak WUM article.

[yiddle]

vinny pazienza

[Duran Fan]

Holyfield
Tua
Bowe
Julian Jackson
Ricky Hatton
Andre Ward

[boxingandmmarocks]

ricky hatton and PBF

[Ilya Muromets]

...........

[Ilya Muromets]

Muhammad Ali

Larry Holmes

Sugar Ray Leonard

Roberto Duran

Evander Holyfield

Ali.

[Scottrf]

Right. Foreman, Frazier, Liston, Quarry, Shavers, Young, Patterson, Chuvalo, Folley, Williams, can't understand how some clueless fans rank him highly.

[Ilya Muromets]

Right. Foreman, Frazier, Liston, Quarry, Shavers, Young, Patterson, Chuvalo, Folley, Williams, can't understand how some clueless fans rank him highly.

Don't get me started. Ali nee Clay is probably the most overrated fighter in history right now. The US media has made him into some kind of demi-god. Ironically, in his own time he was very widely hated. Aside from all his crooked fights and criminal organizations, he was probably the single person most responsible for the demise of good sportsmanship in this so-called sport of ours.

[Scottrf]

I'm more than happy to not get you started as you are obviously clueless.

[Ezzard]

Roy Jones is the most overrated fighter on the internet.

[Diamond WEAPON]

Roy Jones is the most overrated fighter on the internet.

No, Manny Pacquiao is. Just look around youtube or news articles and see what happens anytime somebody says something even remotely critical of Pacquiao. Writers for Yahoo! and Ring Magazine have been called racist by those jackass fans for merely stating the truth.

[Ezzard]

Roy Jones is the most overrated fighter on the internet.

No, Manny Pacquiao is. Just look around youtube or news articles and see what happens anytime somebody says something even remotely critical of Pacquiao. Writers for Yahoo! and Ring Magazine have been called racist by those jackass fans for merely stating the truth.

eh?

What's the truth?

[Diamond WEAPON]

Roy Jones is the most overrated fighter on the internet.

No, Manny Pacquiao is. Just look around youtube or news articles and see what happens anytime somebody says something even remotely critical of Pacquiao. Writers for Yahoo! and Ring Magazine have been called racist by those jackass fans for merely stating the truth.

eh?

What's the truth?

They might say something like "Manny's great, but calm down with the "Greatest of All Time, better than Ali" talk" and then the Pactards will come out in droves with their nonsensical arguments.

[NazNaci1]

Muhammad Ali

Larry Holmes

Sugar Ray Leonard

Roberto Duran

Evander Holyfield

Lies...The real Granberry would have started with the oft under used comments like 'deity'....'shrill'.....'worship'......

[Collins2000]

Muhammad Ali

Larry Holmes

Sugar Ray Leonard

Roberto Duran

Evander Holyfield

Lies...The real Granberry would have started with the oft under used comments like 'deity'....'shrill'.....'worship'......

I'm proud to have been called "a homosexually-fixated sicko" by the great man.

That idiot AntonS and his lap dog Buzz should never have conspired to have granberry banned.

[Goodnight, Irene]

No, Manny Pacquiao is. Just look around youtube or news articles and see what happens anytime somebody says something even remotely critical of Pacquiao. Writers for Yahoo! and Ring Magazine have been called racist by those jackass fans for merely stating the truth.

eh?

What's the truth?

They might say something like "Manny's great, but calm down with the "Greatest of All Time, better than Ali" talk" and then the Pactards will come out in droves with their nonsensical arguments.

You may be reviled by this, but purely looking at resumes, I think Pacquiao has a pretty fair argument for being ranked above Ali.

[Diamond WEAPON]

eh?

What's the truth?

They might say something like "Manny's great, but calm down with the "Greatest of All Time, better than Ali" talk" and then the Pactards will come out in droves with their nonsensical arguments.

You may be reviled by this, but purely looking at resumes, I think Pacquiao has a pretty fair argument for being ranked above Ali.

I don't think so at all, and when I say they say he's "better than Ali", they're talking head-to-head, NOT pound-for-pound, they're as delusional as they come, likely because their entire national significance has become tied up in him singularly. It's not like Americans, or Mexicans, or Puerto Ricans who can usually bring up any number of fighters from "home" who give them pride, Filipinos seem largely ignorant to many of their own greats like Penalosa and are completely wrapped up in Pacquiao as though any criticism of him is like some shot at their entire culture. It's insane.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Fair enough, WEAPON.

I must admit, I often hear about Pacquiao's rabid fans, but never seem to encounter them. Lucky me, I guess.

[Diamond WEAPON]

Fair enough, WEAPON.

I must admit, I often hear about Pacquiao's rabid fans, but never seem to encounter them. Lucky me, I guess.

There aren't many of them around here honestly. If you ever check out the comments of youtube videos of fighters such as Barrera, Morales, Valero, Mayweather, Cotto etc. you see all kinds of ridiculous statements. Same for other Filipino fighters like Bautista, Bobby Pac, Concepcion, etc. who all get praised until they lose, upon which they get insulted like they banged everyone's girlfriend. Gorres got that treatment as well until that fight with Melendez, when people finally backed off. It's really sad.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I've seen enough YouTube comments on all sorts of videos to know not to take that sh!t seriously

In all honesty & said without exaggeration, I could throw a dart at a random Boxing board anywhere on the web, & I would expect the level of discussion to be a hundred-fold better than YouTube comments. They are the lowest of the low, for whatever reason.

[Diamond WEAPON]

I've seen enough YouTube comments on all sorts of videos to know not to take that sh!t seriously

In all honesty & said without exaggeration, I could throw a dart at a random Boxing board anywhere on the web, & I would expect the level of discussion to be a hundred-fold better than YouTube comments. They are the lowest of the low, for whatever reason.

True, but they go further than that even, check out some news articles or mailbags by Kevin Iole, Dan Rafael, or Doug Fischer and you'll see about the same level of intellectual thought when it comes to Pacquiao.

Hell, just look at the poll ringtv.com did for FOTY for 2010, Manny won that shit running away but nobody with any kind of rationale could possibly pick him over not just Martinez, but Montiel and Lopez too for God's sake.

[Ezzard]

Diamond, don't get upset about it. Don't read the comments.

ALL nations overrate their own people.