UK cruiserweights: Guess who's coming to dinner

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 08 Jun 2005, 07:57

Hide promises cruiserweight explosion

8 June 2005
Former two-times WBO heavyweight champion Herbie Hide has a shock in store for the cruiserweights of the world.
The 33-year-old from Norwich – who has recently recovered from a hand injury – is planning an excursion into the division.

“My promoter Mickey Hennessy is letting me loose on all the cruiserweights out there,” said Hide. “All he needs to do is wind me up and let me go.
“As a heavyweight he sometimes had to guide me in the right direction, but as a cruiserweight he needn’t have any worries.
“I could beat all the cruiserweight champions in the world on the same night.
“My team tells me that Mark Hobson and David Haye are about to fight for the British and Commonwealth titles.
“Can you imagine me in with guys like that? I would swot them like flies. If they saw me staring across the ring at them their shorts would turn brown.
“All the cruiserweights will be scared of me – I am going to bring the heat on all of them - but they will be pleased I am moving down.

“It means more money for all of them. It means the cruiserweight division has suddenly become exciting now.

“It has me; I am a personality. When I talk, people listen.

Hide added: “For my first fight, I want Carl Thompson. I am personally putting out a challenge to him to fight me in September. All he has to do is speak to my promoter Mick Hennessy.
“There is no need for him to mess about in small fights with small names; I’m here now. There isn’t a bigger fight out there for him.
“I don’t want him to put his IBO title on the line, he can keep that. We can just have a 12-round contest. Carl is a gentleman, but I will knock him out.

“Then after I have taken out Thompson in style, I want WBO champ Johnny Nelson. I don’t like many people, but I like Johnny Nelson, he is my friend.
“But unfortunately for him - I want to fight him and will take him out in style as well. He is going to be happy I am here though. Why? Because like I say, it means dollars.”

Hide’s decision to fight at Cruiser was sealed following the increase in the weight limit for the division to 14 stone 4 lbs.
Hide added: “My promotional team at Hennessy Sports have been suggesting that I move down for some time now.
“I could have done it at the old limit, but the change meant I just had to do it now that my hand has healed.
“It won’t take any effort at all. I am now walking around at 206 lbs, only 6 pounds over the cruiserweight limit. I can lose that in one training session.

“I have never been a heavyweight, people only need to look at me to realise that.
“I have just always been able to knock heavyweights out easily.
“When I fought Riddick Bowe my natural weight was only 14 stone 7 lbs, but I forced myself to eat 6 times a day and drink protein drink after protein drink.
“It never felt right to bulk up like that.
I just campaigned in the heavyweight division for the dollars and exposure and I got both, but its time for something different now.

Hide added: “I am going to wreak havoc. As a heavyweight I chinned 34 of my 35 victims, can you imagine what I am going to do as a cruiser? No one will be able to live with me.

“I am going to be massive at the weight; the others are going to be terrified at the sight of me. “I really can’t see how I can fail to become a world champion for a third time.”

J · Post by J » 08 Jun 2005, 08:02

will this man not just go away?

he is like an eggy fart on a packed train, unwanted, unnecessary and leaves a bad taste in the back of your throat..

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:05

You can never have too many china chinned bangers in the game -
Even more so when they're all in the same division

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:06

Unless he's had a metal plate inserted in his jaw I don't see how he's going to be world champion at Cruiser.

Chingangu knocked him out for fucks sake. HA!

J · Post by J » 08 Jun 2005, 08:06

i suppose i think hide has poissed his chance up the wall though and at 33 is struggling to train properly etc with his dodgy dosciplinary record.

PLus i thoght the Cat had retired so why is he calling him out?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:07

he is walking around at 206???

cruiser isnt a bad division at the moment, Mormeck will take some moving and Nelson is pretty elusive too

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:07

MightyWarrior wrote:You can never have too many china chinned bangers in the game -
Even more so when they're all in the same division

Amen to that.

J · Post by J » 08 Jun 2005, 08:08

knockout wrote:he is walking around at 206???

wouldnt belive a word he says mate to be honest.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:09

Hide should never have left the cruiserweight division in the first place really, although the recent raising of the limit to 200lb will have helped him. He'll still perform just the same though, bullying the easy opponents and making lots of noise, but when he meets a determined and capable opponent it's his own shorts that will "turn brown".

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:09

And he'll be banged up as soon as he sets foot back in the UK wont he?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:12

J wrote:
knockout wrote:he is walking around at 206???
wouldnt belive a word he says mate to be honest.

i dont!!!! he was 225 for his last few fights...i find it hard to believe he is that light, maybe after several weeks training!!!
but not "walking around"

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:36

I have to say I am glad he is coming back, the thought of seeing Hide being sparked again gives me a nice feeling.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Jun 2005, 08:38

Unless of course he was doing loads of weights to bulk up, which looking at his physique recently, seems plausible.

If Hide's punch resistance wasn't so bad, you'd give him a good chance at Cruiserweight, but the bigger punchers will surely just take him out.

Wouldn't mind having a ticket for Hide against Haye though, edge of the seat stuff.

J · Post by J » 08 Jun 2005, 08:48

or enzo

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 09:02

I think Enzo would knock his block off.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Jun 2005, 09:47

Hide looked to have lost a lot of speed and against the smaller guys that'll mean they hit him first ... get the dustpan and brush guys

dookus · Post by **dookus** » 08 Jun 2005, 09:49

One thing I guess you can't deny is how much of a thoroughly murderous punch he's going to have on him in this division.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Jun 2005, 09:51

dookus wrote:One thing I guess you can't deny is how much of a thoroughly murderous punch he's going to have on him in this division.

not entirely convinced... it was his speed that made him the sharp shooter he was... the smaller guys are more agile themselves and therefore harder to hit.... it will be interesting for sure

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 08 Jun 2005, 10:08

Modest as ever..."my name means dollars" who does he think he is the Robin Hood of Boxing? His name means the opponent will get more mone or something? He's a glass chinned, obnoxious never was not the next Sugar Ray Leonard.

LightCruiser · Post by **LightCruiser** » 08 Jun 2005, 10:36

Prediction: Herbie defeats Johnny Nelson and/or Carl Thompson then loses to Frenchman JMM.
After that IBF/WBA/WBC designate a new 182lb "Light-Cruiser" division,
they love more titles and cruiserweight is getting crowded!
And I finally get to justify my "handle" !

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 11:00

LightCruiser wrote:Prediction: Herbie defeats Johnny Nelson and/or Carl Thompson then loses to Frenchman JMM.
After that IBF/WBA/WBC designate a new 182lb "Light-Cruiser" division,
they love more titles and cruiserweight is getting crowded!
And I finally get to justify my "handle" !

Prediction, Hide loses in his first half decent test at Cruiser and disappears for 18 months.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 08 Jun 2005, 11:02

Love him or hate him, people will still pay to see him.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 08 Jun 2005, 11:06

nickd wrote:
LightCruiser wrote:Prediction: Herbie defeats Johnny Nelson and/or Carl Thompson then loses to Frenchman JMM.
After that IBF/WBA/WBC designate a new 182lb "Light-Cruiser" division,
they love more titles and cruiserweight is getting crowded!
And I finally get to justify my "handle" !
Prediction, Hide loses in his first half decent test at Cruiser and disappears for 18 months.

And then returns ready to swot the Light Heavies like flies?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 08 Jun 2005, 11:55

Come on fellas, have a sense of humour. He is deranged but definitely good for the game. You must admit he usually makes compulsive viewing.

And yes, once he makes himself known back in the UK, he'll be arrested for failing to turn up in court for traffic offences. So he'd better hurry up and then plan a comeback fight for the New Year!

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 08 Jun 2005, 12:05

MightyWarrior wrote:You can never have too many china chinned bangers in the game -
Even more so when they're all in the same division

Too true, many a nine-knockdown-fest awaits...