Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

Frank, speaking of Kid Galahad, was it Orlando De La Fuentes that played Sugar Boy Romero in the movie or his brother?

No, it was his brother Ray...

[Randyman]

Frank, speaking of Kid Galahad, was it Orlando De La Fuentes that played Sugar Boy Romero in the movie or his brother?

No, it was his brother Ray...

Thanks Frank. During the end of one of the sparring sessions, one of the trainers, It might have been Charles Bronson, says to the fighter "Thanks Orlando", I'm guessing that was Orlando De la Fuentes.

[kikibalt]

Frank, speaking of Kid Galahad, was it Orlando De La Fuentes that played Sugar Boy Romero in the movie or his brother?

No, it was his brother Ray...

Thanks Frank. During the end of one of the sparring sessions, one of the trainers, It might have been Charles Bronson, says to the fighter "Thanks Orlando", I'm guessing that was Orlando De la Fuentes.

Yes, Orlando also worked on the set of Kid Galahad. I have some photos of the De La Fuentes's with the King....

[Randyman]

No, it was his brother Ray...

Thanks Frank. During the end of one of the sparring sessions, one of the trainers, It might have been Charles Bronson, says to the fighter "Thanks Orlando", I'm guessing that was Orlando De la Fuentes.

Yes, Orlando also worked on the set of Kid Galahad. I have some photos of the De La Fuentes's with the King....

Post'em! DD

[kikibalt]

Thanks Frank. During the end of one of the sparring sessions, one of the trainers, It might have been Charles Bronson, says to the fighter "Thanks Orlando", I'm guessing that was Orlando De la Fuentes.

Yes, Orlando also worked on the set of Kid Galahad. I have some photos of the De La Fuentes's with the King....

Post'em! DD

I have to find them first....

[bennie]

You guys think Naz is bad; check out this prick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPesST- ... r_embedded

Question is-did he learn anything from this ?

This was in January last year and he was out until the December, when he lost on points in a six-rounder in Belfast. The Derby man has ability but clearly lost it in front of the cameras. I remember a lanky American fighter dancing like that prior to a fight with Jimmy Paul on the Heans-Duran bill in Vegas in June 1984 and then getting poleaxed.

[Randyman]

You guys think Naz is bad; check out this prick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPesST- ... r_embedded

Question is-did he learn anything from this ?

This was in January last year and he was out until the December, when he lost on points in a six-rounder in Belfast. The Derby man has ability but clearly lost it in front of the cameras. I remember a lanky American fighter dancing like that prior to a fight with Jimmy Paul on the Heans-Duran bill in Vegas in June 1984 and then getting poleaxed.

Bennie, I remember that fight well, Jmmy Paul vs Alan Hayes, good memory. Just goes to show, no country holds the patent on boxing fools.

Just thinking about the main event sends me into a depression, Duran being my main man and all.

[bennie]

Question is-did he learn anything from this ?

This was in January last year and he was out until the December, when he lost on points in a six-rounder in Belfast. The Derby man has ability but clearly lost it in front of the cameras. I remember a lanky American fighter dancing like that prior to a fight with Jimmy Paul on the Heans-Duran bill in Vegas in June 1984 and then getting poleaxed.

Bennie, I remember that fight well, Jmmy Paul vs Alan Hayes, good memory. Just goes to show, no country holds the patent of boxing fools.

Just thinking about the main event sends me into a depression, Duran being my main man and all.

Duran should never have fought Hearns, who was too big and quick for the former lightweight. However, Roberto got his revenge (of sorts) when he beat Barkley just after Iran had flattened Tommy.

[bennie]

Left to right: Tommy Hart (referee), Bill Schroeder, Willie Pep, unknown woman, Mushy Callahan & Braven Dyer Jr..

Great photo Frank. I met Mushy Callahan in 1977 at Howie Steindlers funeral. Spent a few minutes talking with him. He worked as a boxing consultant and trainer for boxing scenes in the movies. He trained Elvis Presley for his role as Kid Galahad. He once said that he felt Elvis could have been a real boxer.

I'm always impressed with the demeanour and the behaviour of American people seated round a table like this. In Britain, seat a group round a table and it rapidly descends into a blurry eyed beer-fest.

[Randyman]

This was in January last year and he was out until the December, when he lost on points in a six-rounder in Belfast. The Derby man has ability but clearly lost it in front of the cameras. I remember a lanky American fighter dancing like that prior to a fight with Jimmy Paul on the Heans-Duran bill in Vegas in June 1984 and then getting poleaxed.

Bennie, I remember that fight well, Jmmy Paul vs Alan Hayes, good memory. Just goes to show, no country holds the patent of boxing fools.

Just thinking about the main event sends me into a depression, Duran being my main man and all.

Duran should never have fought Hearns, who was too big and quick for the former lightweight. However, Roberto got his revenge (of sorts) when he bet Barkley just after Iran had flattened Tommy.

Bennie, I took great comfort in that very fact!

[kikibalt]

The De La Fuentes



Orlando



Ray



Orlando with the King, Elvis Presley

I also have a picture with Ray and the king during their movie fight, but I can't find it.

[Randyman]

Left to right: Tommy Hart (referee), Bill Schroeder, Willie Pep, unknown woman, Mushy Callahan & Braven Dyer Jr..

Great photo Frank. I met Mushy Callahan in 1977 at Howie Steindlers funeral. Spent a few minutes talking with him. He worked as a boxing consultant and trainer for boxing scenes in the movies. He trained Elvis Presley for his role as Kid Galahad. He once said that he felt Elvis could have been a real boxer.

I'm always impressed with the demeanour and the behaviour of American people seated round a table like this. In Britain, seat a group round a table and it rapidly descends into a blurry eyed beer-fest.

Yeah, but you should have seen them all about an hour or two later. The woman was doing a table dance with a bottle in each hand, Pep and Callahan were swinging away and the rest of guys were all swinging from the chandeliers. Never the less, they enjoyed themselves.

[kikibalt]

Orlando De La Fuentes real name is Ernest, he also answers to Roy and of course Orlando....

[Randyman]

The De La Fuentes



Orlando



Ray



Orlando with the King, Elvis Presley

I also have a picture with Ray and the king during their movie fight, but I can't find it.

Great pictures Frank, I like Orlando. A very quiet and unassuming man. Thanks for posting them.

[bennie]

Lennox Lewis was at Gary Mason's funeral today, along with many, many others.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... crowd.html

[Randyman]

Tribute To Gary Mason R.I.P. (1962-2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrLno4LwLT4

Lots of good names on his record.

R.I.P. Gary Mason

[raylawpc]

Left to right: Tommy Hart (referee), Bill Schroeder, Willie Pep, unknown woman, Mushy Callahan & Braven Dyer Jr..

Great photo Frank. I met Mushy Callahan in 1977 at Howie Steindlers funeral. Spent a few minutes talking with him. He worked as a boxing consultant and trainer for boxing scenes in the movies. He trained Elvis Presley for his role as Kid Galahad. He once said that he felt Elvis could have been a real boxer.

I'm always impressed with the demeanour and the behaviour of American people seated round a table like this. In Britain, seat a group round a table and it rapidly descends into a blurry eyed beer-fest.

Bennie, the beer-fest began AFTER the photo was taken.

[kikibalt]

Great photo Frank. I met Mushy Callahan in 1977 at Howie Steindlers funeral. Spent a few minutes talking with him. He worked as a boxing consultant and trainer for boxing scenes in the movies. He trained Elvis Presley for his role as Kid Galahad. He once said that he felt Elvis could have been a real boxer.

I'm always impressed with the demeanour and the behaviour of American people seated round a table like this. In Britain, seat a group round a table and it rapidly descends into a blurry eyed beer-fest.

Bennie, the beer-fest began AFTER the photo was taken.

Good thing Art Aragon and Lauro Salas were not there....

[Randyman]

1. "If you screw things up in tennis, it's 15-love. If you screw up in boxing, it's your ass." - Randall Cobb

2. "I'm scared every time I go into the ring, but it's how you handle it. What you have to do is plant your feet, bite down on your mouthpiece and say, 'Let's go.' " - Mike Tyson


3. "A champion shows who he is by what he does when he's tested. When a person gets up and says 'I can still do it', he's a champion." - Evander Holyfield

4. "To me, boxing is like a ballet - except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handy

5. "Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious." - Alan Minter

6. "You have to know you can win. You have to think you can win. You have to feel you can win." - Sugar Ray Leonard

7. "That's my gift. I let that negativity roll off me like water off a duck's back. If it's not positive, I didn't hear it. If you can overcome that, fights are easy." - George Foreman

8. "Fighting, to me, seems barbaric. I don't really like it. I enjoy out-thinking another man and out-maneuvering him, but I still don't like to fight." - Sugar Ray Robinson

9. "I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." - Rocky Marciano

10. "All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

11. "I wanted to do in boxing what Bruce Lee was able to do in karate. Lee was an artist, and, like him, I try to get beyond the fundamentals of my sport. I want my fights to be seen as plays." - Sugar Ray Leonard

12. "When you're in a relationship, you're always surrounded by a ring of circumstances... joined together by a wedding ring, or in a boxing ring." - Bob Seger

13. "Boxing purists, quite naturally, question Tyson's appetite for victory. Mills Lane should have stopped the fight before Tyson took a second helping." - Fred Mitchell

14. "A boxing match is like a cowboy movie. There's got to be good guys and there's got to be bad guys. And that's what people pay for - to see the bad guys get beat." - Sonny Liston

15. "Boxing is the only sport you can get your brain shook, your money took and your name in the undertaker book." - Joe Frazier

16. "I'm not much for talking. You know what I do. I put guys in body bags when I'm right". - Mike Tyson

17. "As a West Side kid fooling around with boxing gloves, I had been, for some reason of temperament, more interested in dodging a blow than in striking one." - Gene Tunney

18. "There are a lot of things and in order to be at the top and maintain your focus you have to have something that motivates you. For me, it was what I perceived as a lack of respect from the boxing world as well as the media, which made me want to work so hard and be great." - Marvin Hagler

19. "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to Lennox Lewis. I want to kill people. I want to rip their stomachs out and eat their children." - Mike Tyson

20. "I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm." - Mike Tyson

21. "The three toughest fighters I've ever been up against were Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Sugar Ray Robinson. I fought Sugar so many times, I'm surprised I'm not diabetic! But I did have him off the canvas once...when he stepped over my body to leave the ring." - Jake LaMotta

22. "I consider myself blessed. I consider you blessed. We've all been blessed with God-given talents. Mine just happens to be beating people up." - Sugar Ray Leonard

23. "My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." - Mike Tyson

24. "I respect boxing because it has given me so much and that's why I will never allow anyone to mistreat the sport of boxing if I can help it." - Alexis Arguello

25. "When we started, it was based on lies. It's changing now. There are no secrets in the business. You've got to come with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It's becoming very confusing." - Don King

[Randyman]

A guy named Joe receives a free ticket to the SuperBowl from his company. Unfortunately, when Joe arrives at the stadium, he realizes the seat is in the last row in the corner of the stadium, he's closer to the Goodyear Blimp than the field. About halfway through the first quarter, Joe sees through his binoculars an empty seat 10 rows off the field right on the 50 yardline.

He decides to take a chance and makes his way through the stadium and around the security guards to the empty seat. As he sits down, Joe asks the gentleman sitting next to him, "Excuse me, is anyone sitting here?"

The man says "No."

Now, very excited to be in such a great seat for the game, Joe again inquires of the man next to him, "This is incredible! Who in their right mind would have a seat like this at the SuperBowl and not use it?!"

The man replies, "Well, actually, the seat belongs to me. I was supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first SuperBowl we haven't been together at since we got married in 1967."

"Well, that's really sad," said Joe, "but still, you couldn't find anyone to take the seat? A friend or close relative?" "No," the man replies, "They're all at the funeral."

[kikibalt]

A guy named Joe receives a free ticket to the SuperBowl from his company. Unfortunately, when Joe arrives at the stadium, he realizes the seat is in the last row in the corner of the stadium, he's closer to the Goodyear Blimp than the field. About halfway through the first quarter, Joe sees through his binoculars an empty seat 10 rows off the field right on the 50 yardline.

He decides to take a chance and makes his way through the stadium and around the security guards to the empty seat. As he sits down, Joe asks the gentleman sitting next to him, "Excuse me, is anyone sitting here?"

The man says "No."

Now, very excited to be in such a great seat for the game, Joe again inquires of the man next to him, "This is incredible! Who in their right mind would have a seat like this at the SuperBowl and not use it?!"

The man replies, "Well, actually, the seat belongs to me. I was supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first SuperBowl we haven't been together at since we got married in 1967."

"Well, that's really sad," said Joe, "but still, you couldn't find anyone to take the seat? A friend or close relative?" "No," the man replies, "They're all at the funeral."

[Rick Farris]

You guys think Naz is bad; check out this prick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPesST- ... r_embedded

Bennie, since I pointed out that I thought Naz was weak of heart compared to L.A. based Latinos, I had to remind myself that not all Southern Cal Mexican-Americans exhibit courage in a prize fight. The most cowardly act I ever saw in a boxing ring happened not that long ago when Victor Ortiz literally quit after flooring Marcos Maidana twice and was unable to put him away. When the heavy underdog continued to battle, and started to score, the Southern Cal boxer (one of Oscar's favorites) said "No Mas!". He explained that he didn't come with the intention of risking injury, and it best he quit and hope to do better another day. I'll never consider Hamed anything more than a joke in the ring, but the worst joke of all was played out by an L.A. boxer. As for the guy in the video, I couldn't stop laughing as I played it for several members of the Spider Man crew on stage today. Thanks for some good entertainment, the guys loved it!

[Randyman]

You guys think Naz is bad; check out this prick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPesST- ... r_embedded

Bennie, since I pointed out that I thought Naz was weak of heart compared to L.A. based Latinos, I had to remind myself that not all Southern Cal Mexican-Americans exhibit courage in a prize fight. The most cowardly act I ever saw in a boxing ring happened not that long ago when Victor Ortiz literally quit after flooring Marcos Maidana twice and was unable to put him away. When the heavy underdog continued to battle, and started to score, the Southern Cal boxer (one of Oscar's favorites) said "No Mas!". He explained that he didn't come with the intention of risking injury, and it best he quit and hope to do better another day. I'll never consider Hamed anything more than a joke in the ring, but the worst joke of all was played out by an L.A. boxer. As for the guy in the video, I couldn't stop laughing as I played it for several members of the Spider Man crew on stage today. Thanks for some good entertainment, the guys loved it!

Victor Ortiz vs Marcos Maidana. A dark day for boxing and an even darker day for "West Coast Boxing".

[bennie]

This guy quit right in the ring but only after one of the most courageous efforts ever seen in this country. Arthur Mercante Junior is simply a spectator as the fighters referee themselves. Don't miss it, round 10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Q0KqEZ4Ro

[THEHAMMER321]

You guys think Naz is bad; check out this prick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPesST- ... r_embedded

Question is-did he learn anything from this ?

This was in January last year and he was out until the December, when he lost on points in a six-rounder in Belfast. The Derby man has ability but clearly lost it in front of the cameras. I remember a lanky American fighter dancing like that prior to a fight with Jimmy Paul on the Heans-Duran bill in Vegas in June 1984 and then getting poleaxed.

Bennie I saw that fight live, Alvin ''too sweet'' Hayes came out break dancing with a mask on and his friends carried a boom box the size of a station wagon into the ring and then he proceeded to get drilled by Jimmy Paul.