Going pro advice .

[Greavesy]

Hi all , First post on here as i usually read on a friends account .

I wondered if anyone could give me advice ?
Iam 29 years old and despite not having any amateur bouts (i trained for 2 years as a teen but our club didnt do any shows as it was on its last legs) i am unbeaten in white collar , ive had 10 fights 1 drew the first one and ive won 9 on the trot since , stopping 8 opponents and im currently the EBO welterweight champion.
Im from Greater Manchester , i am an above average ticket seller and i really want a crack at the pros .
Ive sought advice from a pro manager from down south whos name i wont mention as there not supposed to have anything to do with white collar are they .
He said i should seek out a manager/promotor from my own area as he said he couldnt do a proper job with me from such a distance as id need to be training at a pro gym closer to me .
Does anyone have any advice for me ? who to contact etc , I dont know if promotors usually pay all the licensing fees etc but im willing to pay for my own license and medicals etc as ive saved the money from my white collar bouts (im aware i costs around £750), i know theres been a lot of fighters go pro from a white collar background , a couple of which im sure ive seen posting on here .
Im not claiming im the next Ricky Hatton , id love to be though but i realise at my age it may be a steep learning curve , but i dont want any what ifs , i want to have a crack at the pros , see what happens and then who knows.

[damianhucker1]

Hi all , First post on here as i usually read on a friends account .

I wondered if anyone could give me advice ?
Iam 29 years old and despite not having any amateur bouts (i trained for 2 years as a teen but our club didnt do any shows as it was on its last legs) i am unbeaten in white collar , ive had 10 fights 1 drew the first one and ive won 9 on the trot since , stopping 8 opponents and im currently the EBO welterweight champion.
Im from Greater Manchester , i am an above average ticket seller and i really want a crack at the pros .
Ive sought advice from a pro manager from down south whos name i wont mention as there not supposed to have anything to do with white collar are they .
He said i should seek out a manager/promotor from my own area as he said he couldnt do a proper job with me from such a distance as id need to be training at a pro gym closer to me .
Does anyone have any advice for me ? who to contact etc , I dont know if promotors usually pay all the licensing fees etc but im willing to pay for my own license and medicals etc as ive saved the money from my white collar bouts (im aware i costs around £750), i know theres been a lot of fighters go pro from a white collar background , a couple of which im sure ive seen posting on here .
Im not claiming im the next Ricky Hatton , id love to be though but i realise at my age it may be a steep learning curve , but i dont want any what ifs , i want to have a crack at the pros , see what happens and then who knows.

Hi pal , I reffed your fight last june at Silvestrian Sports club in Liverpool , won 2nd round stoppage if i remember rightly.

Assuming ive got the right person which from your name and being a Manc that holds an EBO title i think its you (Marvin Greaves )

[ginger_sack]

Hi all , First post on here as i usually read on a friends account .

I wondered if anyone could give me advice ?
Iam 29 years old and despite not having any amateur bouts (i trained for 2 years as a teen but our club didnt do any shows as it was on its last legs) i am unbeaten in white collar , ive had 10 fights 1 drew the first one and ive won 9 on the trot since , stopping 8 opponents and im currently the EBO welterweight champion.
Im from Greater Manchester , i am an above average ticket seller and i really want a crack at the pros .
Ive sought advice from a pro manager from down south whos name i wont mention as there not supposed to have anything to do with white collar are they .
He said i should seek out a manager/promotor from my own area as he said he couldnt do a proper job with me from such a distance as id need to be training at a pro gym closer to me .
Does anyone have any advice for me ? who to contact etc , I dont know if promotors usually pay all the licensing fees etc but im willing to pay for my own license and medicals etc as ive saved the money from my white collar bouts (im aware i costs around £750), i know theres been a lot of fighters go pro from a white collar background , a couple of which im sure ive seen posting on here .
Im not claiming im the next Ricky Hatton , id love to be though but i realise at my age it may be a steep learning curve , but i dont want any what ifs , i want to have a crack at the pros , see what happens and then who knows.

have you just fought tonight?

[johnnygreaves]

Have you tried Carl Greaves? If you sell a ticket I'm sure most will give you a go . I turned over the same age & although I'm only a journeyman I've git loads of work through Carl. The guy is straight as they come & I only have good words to say about the man. Could be worth picking up the phone ! Give it a go pal. Great name too lol!

[pyenest77]

Marvin Greaves, Carl Greaves, Johnny Greaves!

Im confused!!!

[damianhucker1]

Hi all , First post on here as i usually read on a friends account .

I wondered if anyone could give me advice ?
Iam 29 years old and despite not having any amateur bouts (i trained for 2 years as a teen but our club didnt do any shows as it was on its last legs) i am unbeaten in white collar , ive had 10 fights 1 drew the first one and ive won 9 on the trot since , stopping 8 opponents and im currently the EBO welterweight champion.
Im from Greater Manchester , i am an above average ticket seller and i really want a crack at the pros .
Ive sought advice from a pro manager from down south whos name i wont mention as there not supposed to have anything to do with white collar are they .
He said i should seek out a manager/promotor from my own area as he said he couldnt do a proper job with me from such a distance as id need to be training at a pro gym closer to me .
Does anyone have any advice for me ? who to contact etc , I dont know if promotors usually pay all the licensing fees etc but im willing to pay for my own license and medicals etc as ive saved the money from my white collar bouts (im aware i costs around £750), i know theres been a lot of fighters go pro from a white collar background , a couple of which im sure ive seen posting on here .
Im not claiming im the next Ricky Hatton , id love to be though but i realise at my age it may be a steep learning curve , but i dont want any what ifs , i want to have a crack at the pros , see what happens and then who knows.

have you just fought tonight?

i think he did , im sure i saw he was due on a show on facebook .

[johnnygreaves]

Marvin Greaves, Carl Greaves, Johnny Greaves!

Im confused!!!

Looks like my old man was a busy guy

[damianhucker1]

Marvin Greaves, Carl Greaves, Johnny Greaves!

Im confused!!!

Looks like my old man was a busy guy

If thas was the case id be really confused as this guy is Black

[johnnygreaves]

Ha ha. Looks like he weren't as busy as he likes to think

[Greavesy]

Have you tried Carl Greaves? If you sell a ticket I'm sure most will give you a go . I turned over the same age & although I'm only a journeyman I've git loads of work through Carl. The guy is straight as they come & I only have good words to say about the man. Could be worth picking up the phone ! Give it a go pal. Great name too lol!

He dont promote in my area though does he ? aint he somewhere like South Yorks ? when i sell white collar tickets there abit closer to home than that and i doubt they would travel too far to watch just yet , maybe if i was achieving something , so im sure i must need a local promotor really but ill message him.

Another thing id need advice with is im told that when i apply for a license i have to do some sort of practice fight/sparr cos of not having an amateur record and i would need my promotor /manager to attend my meeting witht the license people , would it matter if there from a different area council than me , theres loads i dont know about , ive tried to find out what i can but boxing is what i know so ill need a manager , rapid .

[Greavesy]

Hi all , First post on here as i usually read on a friends account .

I wondered if anyone could give me advice ?
Iam 29 years old and despite not having any amateur bouts (i trained for 2 years as a teen but our club didnt do any shows as it was on its last legs) i am unbeaten in white collar , ive had 10 fights 1 drew the first one and ive won 9 on the trot since , stopping 8 opponents and im currently the EBO welterweight champion.
Im from Greater Manchester , i am an above average ticket seller and i really want a crack at the pros .
Ive sought advice from a pro manager from down south whos name i wont mention as there not supposed to have anything to do with white collar are they .
He said i should seek out a manager/promotor from my own area as he said he couldnt do a proper job with me from such a distance as id need to be training at a pro gym closer to me .
Does anyone have any advice for me ? who to contact etc , I dont know if promotors usually pay all the licensing fees etc but im willing to pay for my own license and medicals etc as ive saved the money from my white collar bouts (im aware i costs around £750), i know theres been a lot of fighters go pro from a white collar background , a couple of which im sure ive seen posting on here .
Im not claiming im the next Ricky Hatton , id love to be though but i realise at my age it may be a steep learning curve , but i dont want any what ifs , i want to have a crack at the pros , see what happens and then who knows.

have you just fought tonight?

i did fight last night but its a no contest as the ref was adamant it was over after 3 rounds when it should have been 4 , he scored it a draw but the other guy was knackered and id have stopped him in the 4th im certain , got robbed really but the guys who run the show are calling it a no contest and sorting a rematch , he had me going a bit on the ropes in the 2nd but i rocked him badly in the 3rd , he was better than i was expecting him tio be .

[Spud]

Greavsey,

This might seem a bit negative - but - at your tender age - I would seriously think again about going pro - I know some white collar boxers or those that fight for the EBF that make just as much money doing it that way. For me the biggest reason why you would want to go professional is that you truly believe in yourself that you could make a mark against the very best domestic fighters in your division - unless you do and its only you that can answer that - then stay put where you are and thats coming from a boxing fan perspective.

Time and time again you see young uns coming through thinking they are going to make some money and alas they dont - a lot of the undercard boxers unless they are any good are on ticket deals anyhow and you already have that with the EBF or whatever organistation you box on.

With regards to professional promoters there are lots of good ones - some already mentioned in this thread - if you sit down with more than one of them and discuss finances you will rapidly find out that unless you are fighting for titles you might as well stay where you are.

Another thing - this white collar thing is in some ways annoying the life out of me - mainly down to I overheard a conversation that a certain fighter is fighting for the British Title - my ears went into radar mode I thought f*cking hell that one slipped through the net without me knowing until I realised it was for one of the white collar organisations - problem is some of the people really do believe the lad is fighting for the British Title and he is selling a bucket load of tickets on the back of that.

Dont get me wrong - I have seen some tremendous guttsy scraps that have brought the house down with the atmosphere etc etc - absolutely fantastic - the problem is the crowd need to take a reality check because those fights are in another world in comparison to the professional ranks.

[johnnygreaves]

Yeh, spud is right. I had 45 unlicensed bouts & was so called British champ. I earned pretty well , but turned over & wanted to go on the road from day one. It depends what you want from the game pal. It really is another planet in terms of class. I went the distance with lee purdy, tom glover so ager seeing them do well knew I could cut it. I've earned good money but truly knew after growing up watching top pros at the peacock I was not champ material

[Greavesy]

Greavsey,

This might seem a bit negative - but - at your tender age - I would seriously think again about going pro - I know some white collar boxers or those that fight for the EBF that make just as much money doing it that way. For me the biggest reason why you would want to go professional is that you truly believe in yourself that you could make a mark against the very best domestic fighters in your division - unless you do and its only you that can answer that - then stay put where you are and thats coming from a boxing fan perspective.

Time and time again you see young uns coming through thinking they are going to make some money and alas they dont - a lot of the undercard boxers unless they are any good are on ticket deals anyhow and you already have that with the EBF or whatever organistation you box on.

With regards to professional promoters there are lots of good ones - some already mentioned in this thread - if you sit down with more than one of them and discuss finances you will rapidly find out that unless you are fighting for titles you might as well stay where you are.

Another thing - this white collar thing is in some ways annoying the life out of me - mainly down to I overheard a conversation that a certain fighter is fighting for the British Title - my ears went into radar mode I thought f*cking hell that one slipped through the net without me knowing until I realised it was for one of the white collar organisations - problem is some of the people really do believe the lad is fighting for the British Title and he is selling a bucket load of tickets on the back of that.

Dont get me wrong - I have seen some tremendous guttsy scraps that have brought the house down with the atmosphere etc etc - absolutely fantastic - the problem is the crowd need to take a reality check because those fights are in another world in comparison to the professional ranks.

I appreciate your feedback but without trying to sound tit , im fully aware of what your saying and believe me i know that financially its not going to mean i can give up work or anything unless things go very well , ill gladly front up my own fees and i can sell tickets so i believe i can be a good thing to any promotor to let me have a go even if i was to get sparked in a round , its surely no skin off their nose .

Ive emailed a few promotors today so will just see what happens i suppose .

As for my ability , ive beaten one ex pro but hes EX , and old , so i dont know how good i will do as a pro , but what i dont want is to look back in a few years and think , what if id given it a go , if i dont cut the mustard then so what , at least i had a go ,

[johnnygreaves]

Good luck to you Greavsie. I was in the same boat & went over . Follow your heart. & yes Carl is based in the midlands but I'm a London boy so he might be able to help you. U mentioned him coz he really is honest & hard working & helped me no end.

[jBacca]

I appreciate your feedback but without trying to sound tit , im fully aware of what your saying and believe me i know that financially its not going to mean i can give up work or anything unless things go very well , ill gladly front up my own fees and i can sell tickets so i believe i can be a good thing to any promotor to let me have a go even if i was to get sparked in a round , its surely no skin off their nose .

Ive emailed a few promotors today so will just see what happens i suppose .

As for my ability , ive beaten one ex pro but hes EX , and old , so i dont know how good i will do as a pro , but what i dont want is to look back in a few years and think , what if id given it a go , if i dont cut the mustard then so what , at least i had a go ,

All the best.

[Greavesy]

I got in touch with Carl Greaves on his website , hopefully he will get in touch , also emailed a couple of promoters a bit closer to me and a friend contacted a pro fighter for advice who is more up my area and fights for someone local .

Fingers crossed that someone will give me the opportunity to box on their show , im fit and rearing to go and although id like to spend some time training with pros rather than the guys i have been ive got the determination and hunger , im confident ill pick up a win first time out , i dont have time on my side to hang around so really need to take the bull by the horns

[Greavesy]

had a look to see if anyone has put any of my fights on youtube , this was the only one i could find , wasnt a classic as i was a bit slow starting due to it being a shot at the title and i was the away fighter (not really a million miles from home though as you can tell by the vocal support) although my opponent was from further away than me i think.
My opponent refused to leave his stool to start round 3 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HErUh0efzk

didnt think the link would work but it has .

If i find more ill add , just in case someone watches that matters , typical though that it wasnt exactly my best performance that was on there , in fact its possibly my worst winning performance , or not far off

[Spud]

Greavsey,

This might seem a bit negative - but - at your tender age - I would seriously think again about going pro - I know some white collar boxers or those that fight for the EBF that make just as much money doing it that way. For me the biggest reason why you would want to go professional is that you truly believe in yourself that you could make a mark against the very best domestic fighters in your division - unless you do and its only you that can answer that - then stay put where you are and thats coming from a boxing fan perspective.

Time and time again you see young uns coming through thinking they are going to make some money and alas they dont - a lot of the undercard boxers unless they are any good are on ticket deals anyhow and you already have that with the EBF or whatever organistation you box on.

With regards to professional promoters there are lots of good ones - some already mentioned in this thread - if you sit down with more than one of them and discuss finances you will rapidly find out that unless you are fighting for titles you might as well stay where you are.

Another thing - this white collar thing is in some ways annoying the life out of me - mainly down to I overheard a conversation that a certain fighter is fighting for the British Title - my ears went into radar mode I thought f*cking hell that one slipped through the net without me knowing until I realised it was for one of the white collar organisations - problem is some of the people really do believe the lad is fighting for the British Title and he is selling a bucket load of tickets on the back of that.

Dont get me wrong - I have seen some tremendous guttsy scraps that have brought the house down with the atmosphere etc etc - absolutely fantastic - the problem is the crowd need to take a reality check because those fights are in another world in comparison to the professional ranks.

I appreciate your feedback but without trying to sound tit , im fully aware of what your saying and believe me i know that financially its not going to mean i can give up work or anything unless things go very well , ill gladly front up my own fees and i can sell tickets so i believe i can be a good thing to any promotor to let me have a go even if i was to get sparked in a round , its surely no skin off their nose .

Ive emailed a few promotors today so will just see what happens i suppose .

As for my ability , ive beaten one ex pro but hes EX , and old , so i dont know how good i will do as a pro , but what i dont want is to look back in a few years and think , what if id given it a go , if i dont cut the mustard then so what , at least i had a go ,

You have mentioned twice you are a ticket seller - any promoter would be interested in that aspect - however, unless you are any good you will not get in any meaningful fights.

Where as and I do not mean to be disparaging or insulting - but in the EBO, EBF etc etc - you will get title fights and you will pack the house out as people will really believe you are somebody.

By the way - I think your stance and desire to turn professional are admirable and all the very best

[rhino222]

all the best mate..give it a go, if it does not work out you can always revert to other options. would be nice to one day log onto boxrec and show your grandkids your professional record!!

if you dont give it a crack you will never know..so bon voyage, and keep us tuned on here as to how you are getting on.

[JCB123]

Good luck Greavsey!!!!

I've seen you box on a couple of shows & you are good mate, have a go and see what happens pal

[ginger_sack]

Hi all , First post on here as i usually read on a friends account .

I wondered if anyone could give me advice ?
Iam 29 years old and despite not having any amateur bouts (i trained for 2 years as a teen but our club didnt do any shows as it was on its last legs) i am unbeaten in white collar , ive had 10 fights 1 drew the first one and ive won 9 on the trot since , stopping 8 opponents and im currently the EBO welterweight champion.
Im from Greater Manchester , i am an above average ticket seller and i really want a crack at the pros .
Ive sought advice from a pro manager from down south whos name i wont mention as there not supposed to have anything to do with white collar are they .
He said i should seek out a manager/promotor from my own area as he said he couldnt do a proper job with me from such a distance as id need to be training at a pro gym closer to me .
Does anyone have any advice for me ? who to contact etc , I dont know if promotors usually pay all the licensing fees etc but im willing to pay for my own license and medicals etc as ive saved the money from my white collar bouts (im aware i costs around £750), i know theres been a lot of fighters go pro from a white collar background , a couple of which im sure ive seen posting on here .
Im not claiming im the next Ricky Hatton , id love to be though but i realise at my age it may be a steep learning curve , but i dont want any what ifs , i want to have a crack at the pros , see what happens and then who knows.

have you just fought tonight?

i did fight last night but its a no contest as the ref was adamant it was over after 3 rounds when it should have been 4 , he scored it a draw but the other guy was knackered and id have stopped him in the 4th im certain , got robbed really but the guys who run the show are calling it a no contest and sorting a rematch , he had me going a bit on the ropes in the 2nd but i rocked him badly in the 3rd , he was better than i was expecting him tio be .

i thought i remembered the name, marvalous marvin right?
i was doing the time keeping last night and to be fair to the ref i had it down on my sheet as a 3 rounder and thought the fight was very close,
firstly well done it was a top fight and the lad you boxed is very good ,you both looked a step up from most white collar fighters, and i noticed your fitness was very good and the 6x2s or 4x3s in the pros should suit you but its a big leap from white collar in terms of class as you probly already know, but from what i seen last night i see no reason why you couldnt give it a shot in the pros and if its what you wanna do why not.
steve woods might be an option for a local promoter, also think you have to spar against a pro in front of the board to gain your licence, i think if you could get in touch with any of the pro gyms from round the north west and spar with some pros that would be good for experience and you would have more of an idea what you will be up against.
let us know how you get on and good luck.

[maninthemiddle]

Why dont you try and get a few amateur fights. With your experience after a couple of "range finders" you could enter into the ABA's and get some invaluable experience against decent kids.

[Gooner123]

Why dont you try and get a few amateur fights. With your experience after a couple of "range finders" you could enter into the ABA's and get some invaluable experience against decent kids.

If the ABA knew he was a decent unlicensed boxer they wouldn't let him box as an amateur, it's not fair but that's the way the ABA are!

[Jeff Thomas]

There's a few talented lads in the ebf etc but for me they are endangering themselves and wasting their time! We've got a local lad round here- in fact we have two that could do something if they applied themselves but for whatever reason they choose to box unlicensed