UK cruiserweights: Guess who's coming to dinner

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Jun 2005, 12:06

Maybe they could fight on a barge in the English channel, or in a hot air baloon....

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 08 Jun 2005, 13:35

J wrote:PLus i thoght the Cat had retired so why is he calling him out?

I think Carl is still active, last I heard there was talk of a rematch with Sebastian Rothmann.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 13:38

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Maybe they could fight on a barge in the English channel, or in a hot air baloon....

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 Jun 2005, 13:44

Surprised by this, so surprised that I cannot see it happening. Hide always giving me the impression that he is very confident about his abilities - moving down to Cruiser because there are some bigish domestic fights doesn't give me the image of person who is confident in his abilities.

The two biggest names on the UK Heavyweight scene (Williams and Harrison) would get him more money than the Cruisers plus if he believes (as he used to) that he has the talent beyond the UK then surely the money is in the world heavyweight scene.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:22

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Come on fellas, have a sense of humour. He is deranged but definitely good for the game. You must admit he usually makes compulsive viewing.

And yes, once he makes himself known back in the UK, he'll be arrested for failing to turn up in court for traffic offences. So he'd better hurry up and then plan a comeback fight for the New Year!

Ian,

He's already had his day in court and got community service and a fine.

Kev

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:25

Can he go back down though as he's been a Heavy for a long time?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:29

Kevin wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Come on fellas, have a sense of humour. He is deranged but definitely good for the game. You must admit he usually makes compulsive viewing.

And yes, once he makes himself known back in the UK, he'll be arrested for failing to turn up in court for traffic offences. So he'd better hurry up and then plan a comeback fight for the New Year!
Ian,

He's already had his day in court and got community service and a fine.

Kev

Are you sure Kev? I think there was another misdemeanour since then. He's not been back to the UK since his last arrest warrant was issued I dont think.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:34

nickd wrote:
Kevin wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Come on fellas, have a sense of humour. He is deranged but definitely good for the game. You must admit he usually makes compulsive viewing.

And yes, once he makes himself known back in the UK, he'll be arrested for failing to turn up in court for traffic offences. So he'd better hurry up and then plan a comeback fight for the New Year!
Ian,

He's already had his day in court and got community service and a fine.

Kev
Are you sure Kev? I think there was another misdemeanour since then. He's not been back to the UK since his last arrest warrant was issued I dont think.

That's what I thought. Last thing I remember was he went to court...and then legged it. A warrant was issued for his arrest and he went to Vegas. It could have been cleared up but I'm surprised I missed it.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:38

I know it was around the time of the Jon Thaxton fight so could well have been pushed down the local paper

http://new.edp24.co.uk/search/story.asp ... ory=search

I'm still looking for the rest of the story!!!

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:49

He was in court around the 21st April

Fined 3.5K with 28 days to pay it. Also received a 60 hours community service order.

I can't find the story though

Kev

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:52

Im looking forward to herbie showing his face again. I love the drama he brings

Imagine him against Haye

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 15:53

Fair enough.

FREE THE NORWICH 1!!!

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 08 Jun 2005, 16:19

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Maybe they could fight on a barge in the English channel, or in a hot air baloon....

...filled by the hot shit that's emitted from Hide's mouth every now and again.

I see enourmous commercial potential for a 2005 highlights package. Tyson-v-McBride and Haye-v-Hide, action packed double bill packed with the full 2 1/2 minutes from each fight. Perfect for those pressed-for-time boxing fans.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 08 Jun 2005, 18:01

How good would any of our Crusers do in Hides shoes?

Vitali - all would get ko'd quick just as Hide did
Tucker - Hide ko'd him in 2rounds 8years ago - he was old but no one else did that to him
Fisher - ko'd in 2 and took hoffman 12
Bentt - he beat Tommy Morrison
Chingagu - lost and avenged his defeat

If you look at even who some of the journeymen he ko'd and compare how they did against world class contenders/champs it speaks volumes for his power. His power is world class at HW imagine what he'd do to a Cruser

Herbies 33 and could make a big dent at world level if he gets to his best at Cruser - I dont think he would at HW unless he fought Byrd or Ruiz - I fancy his chances with those 2 because of styles.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Jun 2005, 19:28

Byrd or Ruiz would beat him easily. Come on.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 09 Jun 2005, 03:36

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:How good would any of our Crusers do in Hides shoes?

Vitali - all would get ko'd quick just as Hide did
Tucker - Hide ko'd him in 2rounds 8years ago - he was old but no one else did that to him
Fisher - ko'd in 2 and took hoffman 12
Bentt - he beat Tommy Morrison
Chingagu - lost and avenged his defeat

If you look at even who some of the journeymen he ko'd and compare how they did against world class contenders/champs it speaks volumes for his power. His power is world class at HW imagine what he'd do to a Cruser

Herbies 33 and could make a big dent at world level if he gets to his best at Cruser - I dont think he would at HW unless he fought Byrd or Ruiz - I fancy his chances with those 2 because of styles.

You're committing the cardinal sin of allowing yourself to believe in Herbie Hide old son. We've all done it, even Frankie Warren did it to the tune of a lot of money, but by now we should all know better.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 09 Jun 2005, 04:23

Herbie is Nigerian so you have to be fairly skeptical about anything he says. However, should he comeback at cruiserweight, I'll be watching. You're always guaranteed fireworks with The Dancing Destroyer.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:20

The thing is that Hide since his come back hasn't really done anything which leads one to wonder if he is still that good. Would be interesting to see if he can build something from this one though.

Chopping Right · Post by **Chopping Right** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:44

josh fg wrote:Would be interesting to see if he can build something from this one though.

You see how easy it is to start believing in Hide again? Don't do it, you know he'll get KO'ed by the firs serious opponent. JUST SAY NO AND TOGETHER WE CAN BEAT THE MISERY CAUSED BY UNFOUNDED HERBIE OPTIMISM

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:56

Chopping Right wrote:
josh fg wrote:Would be interesting to see if he can build something from this one though.
You see how easy it is to start believing in Hide again? Don't do it, you know he'll get KO'ed by the firs serious opponent. JUST SAY NO AND TOGETHER WE CAN BEAT THE MISERY CAUSED BY UNFOUNDED HERBIE OPTIMISM

lol I know but I am stuck on the fact that he has held the WBO title and been in with top fighters he must have been able to do something... but you are probably right

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 09 Jun 2005, 10:10

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ...he fought Byrd or Ruiz - I fancy his chances with those 2 because of styles.

I'd actually fancy Byrd to stop him, such is the China-Chinedness of Hide

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 09 Jun 2005, 10:19

While Hide is obviously as nutty as a fruit bar, if he does somehow make cruiserweight, I think there's no doubt his punching power could do some serious damage.
If he catches either Enzo or Haye on the chin, they'd both be exiting the ring head first I reckon.
But the Herb must avoid being hit back at all costs, even by a jab, because even a glancing jab would probably leave him taking 40 winks these days.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 09 Jun 2005, 10:35

I think Sven Ottke could knock Herbie out these days

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Jun 2005, 10:38

Neri1983 wrote:I think Sven Ottke could knock Herbie out these days

I will not have a word said against sven ottke the way he maneges to put his audiance asleep for the count is masterful people just don't understand that is his post modern style