Barnes stripped of British title

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 09 Jun 2005, 08:06

Following his defeat on Saturday David Barnes has been stripped of the British title.

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Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 09 Jun 2005, 08:07

Maybe Michael Jennings will fight for the vacant title

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 09 Jun 2005, 08:09

Read the article you might be happy

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:10

I'm lazy and can't find the article :P Why has he been stripped of the British title after losing in a Commonwealth title challenge?

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:15

And surely, its double standards if Graham Earl was allowed to keep his belt particularly as he lost it to a British fighter.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:16

Not being able to defend it in a certain time because he was stopped.

How is he, anyone know?

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:20

Only saw this yesterday on my return from the US.

He really did look shocking and I can only assume that something was wrong.

while I hope he is OK medically, part of me did feel a certain schadenfreude in his defeat particularly following the gift versus Vincent and the temper tantrums last time out

Was watching Million Dollar Baby on the plane on the way home and Morgan Freeman described a gym bully as having " all the skills but the heart of a split pea"

Thought of that as I watched the Barnes fight.

slapsie

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:27

steve689 wrote:I'm lazy and can't find the article :P Why has he been stripped of the British title after losing in a Commonwealth title challenge?

Lazy git!!

He was due to fight a mandatory defence against Vincent, he is now suspended for 45 days following the stoppage. He was stripped because he is unable to make the mandatory defence.

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:29

OK, does that mean Vincent versus XX are guaranteed to fight for the vacant title?

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:30

Yes Jennings and Vincent will now fight for the Vacant title

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:49

I (like many many others no doubt) hope Vincent can take this chance. Hopefully he can reclaim the form from the first Barnes fight which was an exception performance for him.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:55

Is Barnes slotted in as first defence?

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 09 Jun 2005, 09:59

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Jun 2005, 10:35

How does Barnes lose his title but Earl keeps his?

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 09 Jun 2005, 10:43

Earl lost on points and therefore wasn't suspended.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 09 Jun 2005, 11:02

mmmm.....so the stoppage defeat means he loses the title?

the fact Earl got humilated by a novice fellow Brit doesn't?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 09 Jun 2005, 11:22

DavidPayne wrote:mmmm.....so the stoppage defeat means he loses the title?

the fact Earl got humilated by a novice fellow Brit doesn't?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Stoppage means he's banned from sparring dun't it. 60 days or something?
Therefore, he's Ineligable for the defense.
Not a matter of who was 'humiliated', but that he is unable to make a mandatory defence.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 09 Jun 2005, 11:39

Slapsie - I reckon that is the first time someone has used the word "schadenfreude" on this site (unless Bubi has had a go)

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 09 Jun 2005, 11:43

I live to inform

well knowing me, I am told, is an education because, every time I go out on a first date, the woman always leaves me saying " well that taught me a lesson"

S

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 09 Jun 2005, 11:46

DavidPayne wrote:mmmm.....so the stoppage defeat means he loses the title?

the fact Earl got humilated by a novice fellow Brit doesn't?

Doesn't make sense to me.

A stoppage or KO means he is automatically for 28 days, Barnes was upped to 45 days by the ringside doctor.

Therefore he can not fulfil his mandatory with Vincent.

Here is the ruling from the BBBoC rulebook.

22.12 - A Champion shall forfeit his title in the following circumstances

(e) If a Champion is for any reason unable or unwilling to defend his title when required by the Board to do so.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 09 Jun 2005, 12:18

This is all from the latest releases by the Commonwealth committee Kev? Did they say anything about the vacant Heavyweight title, or are they going to wait for Skelton/Williams?

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 09 Jun 2005, 12:21

This is the latest release from the British Boxing Board of Control, nothing about the Heavyweight title, I thought Skelton/Williams was also for the Commonwealth title or did they not sanction it?

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 09 Jun 2005, 12:26

Kevin wrote:This is the latest release from the British Boxing Board of Control, nothing about the Heavyweight title, I thought Skelton/Williams was also for the Commonwealth title or did they not sanction it?

It all passed me by too this one. Apparently those clever aussies stripped Skelton as soon as he fought Moli for the WBU. I saw a pool of about 9 or 10 who were in line to fight for the now vacant title ie. any two. Skelton and Williams were in there (so I don't know why they won't be fighting for it) as was Sprott.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Jun 2005, 13:15

A bit of bad luck for Vincent, Jennings is a much tougher prospect than Barnes. Always thought he was the better fighter.

I wanted to see Jennings fight for the Commonwealth belt cause that fighter is well beatable - perhaps Jennings' other stable mate Tony Doherty can go that route.