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Thanks charlie it was me that asked, we are hoping to get over in June to NY & your list will certainly some of the leg work, Maybe if we do make the trip we can get together & I can buy you a pint or twoCNorkusJr wrote:Not to long ago,someone asked me to list some NY gyms to visit if in town.
I came across this website that might have an interest to all here:
http://WWW.Boxinghelp.com
click on "gym directory"
I cant speak for the other states- but as far as NY goes, its looks fairly up-to-date.
Since hard times are hitting some gyms,some fold as others open.
If in NY I can recommend by Boros:
Bronx- Worldwide boxing Gym
Also, Juan Laporte's gym.(goes by same name as his).
BKLY- Atlas NYC on Foster Ave. (Teddy is assoc. with this place, whether he is there are not depends on his schedule on the road).
Of course Gleasons Gym- probably your best bet out of them all. Easy to get to from anywhere.
Starrett City- located near housing projects the gym is named after. Mark Breland is there often I am told.
In Manhattan (New York County), Kingsway Intl Boxing. (used to be on 8th Ave for years now relocated. Duran trained there as well as Gleasons when it moved to Manhattan.
Downtown Manhattan: Church Street Boxing.
Queens NY: Irish Ropes Boxing. Was Duddy's new spot, but who knows now.
As usual, please call ahead to find out if gym is still open, and who's in training if there is.
Until mid-March- NY Golden Gloves are currently active and each club has a full slate of young kids training now.

Judging by the photo alone, Phil Kim looks like one of those life and death battlers that would go out on his shield. A crowd pleaser....kikibalt wrote:
Phil Kim
telboy66 wrote:Thanks charlie it was me that asked, we are hoping to get over in June to NY & your list will certainly some of the leg work, Maybe if we do make the trip we can get together & I can buy you a pint or twoCNorkusJr wrote:Not to long ago,someone asked me to list some NY gyms to visit if in town.
I came across this website that might have an interest to all here:
http://WWW.Boxinghelp.com
click on "gym directory"
I cant speak for the other states- but as far as NY goes, its looks fairly up-to-date.
Since hard times are hitting some gyms,some fold as others open.
If in NY I can recommend by Boros:
Bronx- Worldwide boxing Gym
Also, Juan Laporte's gym.(goes by same name as his).
BKLY- Atlas NYC on Foster Ave. (Teddy is assoc. with this place, whether he is there are not depends on his schedule on the road).
Of course Gleasons Gym- probably your best bet out of them all. Easy to get to from anywhere.
Starrett City- located near housing projects the gym is named after. Mark Breland is there often I am told.
In Manhattan (New York County), Kingsway Intl Boxing. (used to be on 8th Ave for years now relocated. Duran trained there as well as Gleasons when it moved to Manhattan.
Downtown Manhattan: Church Street Boxing.
Queens NY: Irish Ropes Boxing. Was Duddy's new spot, but who knows now.
As usual, please call ahead to find out if gym is still open, and who's in training if there is.
Until mid-March- NY Golden Gloves are currently active and each club has a full slate of young kids training now.
You said it all Ram. That's how he was....Panzerfaust wrote:Judging by the photo alone, Phil Kim looks like one of those life and death battlers that would go out on his shield. A crowd pleaser....kikibalt wrote:
Phil Kim
Its one of those photos that really fires up my imagination and curiosity...
How was he Frank?
I would love that Charlie I will let you know as soon as we get our date fixedCNorkusJr wrote:telboy66 wrote:Thanks charlie it was me that asked, we are hoping to get over in June to NY & your list will certainly some of the leg work, Maybe if we do make the trip we can get together & I can buy you a pint or twoCNorkusJr wrote:Not to long ago,someone asked me to list some NY gyms to visit if in town.
I came across this website that might have an interest to all here:
http://WWW.Boxinghelp.com
click on "gym directory"
I cant speak for the other states- but as far as NY goes, its looks fairly up-to-date.
Since hard times are hitting some gyms,some fold as others open.
If in NY I can recommend by Boros:
Bronx- Worldwide boxing Gym
Also, Juan Laporte's gym.(goes by same name as his).
BKLY- Atlas NYC on Foster Ave. (Teddy is assoc. with this place, whether he is there are not depends on his schedule on the road).
Of course Gleasons Gym- probably your best bet out of them all. Easy to get to from anywhere.
Starrett City- located near housing projects the gym is named after. Mark Breland is there often I am told.
In Manhattan (New York County), Kingsway Intl Boxing. (used to be on 8th Ave for years now relocated. Duran trained there as well as Gleasons when it moved to Manhattan.
Downtown Manhattan: Church Street Boxing.
Queens NY: Irish Ropes Boxing. Was Duddy's new spot, but who knows now.
As usual, please call ahead to find out if gym is still open, and who's in training if there is.
Until mid-March- NY Golden Gloves are currently active and each club has a full slate of young kids training now.
Or three .Only kidding. Would like to hoist a few with you though. Let me know,if you can, when you are coming ahead of time and maybe there is something on the schedule we can attend. (fights,meetings,etc etc).
I also want to add to the list above a great place to visit if you are in Manhattan's Time Square area. Famed boxing trainer and former owner of the 42st Street Gym in NYC (now defunct) is Jimmy Glenn. He trained Monte Barrett and a host of others.
Jimmy owns a bar- "Jimmy's Corner" on 44th Street between 6th Ave and Broadway a block off of Times Square. It's not an overly large place and no food is served but the place is festooned with Boxing pictures and things, and is most definetly a "Boxing" bar. Jimmy's usually in at night after 8 pm unless he's out of town working in a corner.He now trains down at the Gramercy Park Gym by day. I'll get the address for that place . Its not on the list. The man has a huge career behind him and has a treasure trove of stories.Great place for those pints.
Kim was beatable, but you had to work your ass off to beat him....Panzerfaust wrote:I found this of Phil Kim on youtube. This guy was as tough as they come!!
Carmine Fiore vs Phil Kim round 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-6Pt_tTmSY
You lucky, lucky guykikibalt wrote:
I was at the Olympic for his fight with Art Aragon....
Great photos Bennie, thanks for sharing....bennie wrote:
Me in Ireland a few years ago.
No, Charlie, the boys never fought in S.F., by the time Frankie and Tony started their pro careers boxing was dead in S.F. Frankie had most of his fights in the L.A. area, he did fight once in Miami and had a few fights in Las Vegas. Tony too fought mostly in L.A, though, he did fight a few fights in Las Vegas and one in Reno, one in New Mexico and three back East, Atlantic City, up state New York (Swan Lake) and Philly.CNorkusJr wrote:When I visited San Francisco in late 1980's, my wife at the time and I were taking in all the tourist sites the city had to offer. We worked our way over to city hall area and I was astonished to see the old SF City Auditorium that housed my fathers bouts as well as countless others. I didnt do any previous check to see if it was still standing prior to visit.Rick Farris wrote:Art & Audie Aragon . . .
Art Aragon's oldest son, Audie, and I have been friends for more than thirty years.
Audie was named after Art's best friend, WW2 hero Audie Murphy. Murphy was decorated with the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Art had a role in the feature film on Murphy's life, "To Hell & Back", in the early 50's
Audie is a grip in the film industry and occasionally we will work together on a major feature film.
We are currently working together on the fourth Spider Man feature.
Audie wanted me to thank Frank for posting the recent pics of his dad, and he mentioned that the photos Frank posted were ones that he had not yet seen.
Audie has several huge scrap books of his father's career, and his mother recently gave him a bag that was filled with Art's boxing gloves, the ones he wore in some of his most memorable fights, such as the Jimmy Carter title bout, Carmen Basileo, etc.
Audie said that shortly before his father's death, he had his dad autograph each pair of gloves with a special gold marker. They were signed, "The Golden Boy, Art Aragon".
Audie has promised to share photos of his dads memorabelia, including one of Art's Pacific Coast Championship belt.
When we speak of Classic American West Coast Boxing legends, none is bigger than Art Aragon.
Audie may also post on this site himself, and he has a lot of great memories of his legendary father, and I told him he has a great audience here fro anything he might wish to share.
-Rick Farris
When we walked over to the entrance doors, I found a pair that were unlocked and walked in. The place was clean and used for events at the time, but not that particular week.
There was nobody around. No guard or employee around. I figured maybe a maintenance man was in the actual auditorium (we were in the lobby) and walked over to check it out.
Basically, thats all I wanted to do there anyway-take a look inside.
I did the same thing only a few years ago at the Miami Beach auditorium.
All of the interior doors were locked in SF Aud.
Just then a suited man walked in and asked us what are business was there.I told him I just wanted to see the interior and mentioned my fathers career briefly.
He said " Oh-you want to see the boxing museum on the second floor" and pointed up some stairs at the end of lobby. I was in shock. We thanked the man and quickly found ourselves on the 2nd floor. A very nice display of California Boxing history.Mostly pictures with descriptions, it did contain some boxing gloves,speed bags and shoes and a bell. but only 1 or 2 items of each. No plaques or such. It was sparse, but a very legit collection. It had Jeffries, Moore, a few things on Powell and others I did not connect with until I started coming here to CAWCB.
Frank, I did not note any Baltazar photos,as most of the items were pre 1960 or so. No Chacon either. I dont know when the SF Aud was used last as a boxing venue but I imagine the items were from that early time period. Did your boys ever fight in San Francisco, Frank ?
But far and away from all the items, Art Aragon pieces and pictures were the featured lot. I remember noting that Art Aragon was possibly 50% to 60 % of the museum. I was familiar with Mr Aragon as my father told me about him and his movie career as well. Well worth the time to visit though dont expect a tidal wave of items. If it exists at all. I did notice that the Auditorium in recent years has changed to Bill Graham (rock music promoter) Theatre.
The Miami Bch. Auditorium is now known as "The Jackie Gleason Theatre at the Miami Bch Auditorium". <full name used. There is no boxing items there and the seating area is totally rehabbed to a concert only venue.
Panzerfaust wrote:You lucky, lucky guykikibalt wrote:
I was at the Olympic for his fight with Art Aragon....
Panzerfaust wrote:I took a test they had in the newspaper today..... where if you answered yes to two or more questions you were at risk of getting alzheimers.... i had it yes on 7 out of 8Im 24 godammit!!!!
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raylawpc wrote:Any chance you could twist his arm to bring those scrapbooks to the CBHOF banquet?Rick Farris wrote:Art & Audie Aragon . . .
Art Aragon's oldest son, Audie, and I have been friends for more than thirty years.
Audie was named after Art's best friend, WW2 hero Audie Murphy. Murphy was decorated with the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Art had a role in the feature film on Murphy's life, "To Hell & Back", in the early 50's
Audie is a grip in the film industry and occasionally we will work together on a major feature film.
We are currently working together on the fourth Spider Man feature.
Audie wanted me to thank Frank for posting the recent pics of his dad, and he mentioned that the photos Frank posted were ones that he had not yet seen.
Audie has several huge scrap books of his father's career, and his mother recently gave him a bag that was filled with Art's boxing gloves, the ones he wore in some of his most memorable fights, such as the Jimmy Carter title bout, Carmen Basileo, etc.
Audie said that shortly before his father's death, he had his dad autograph each pair of gloves with a special gold marker. They were signed, "The Golden Boy, Art Aragon".
Audie has promised to share photos of his dads memorabelia, including one of Art's Pacific Coast Championship belt.
When we speak of Classic American West Coast Boxing legends, none is bigger than Art Aragon.
Audie may also post on this site himself, and he has a lot of great memories of his legendary father, and I told him he has a great audience here fro anything he might wish to share.
-Rick FarrisI know you and I will be buying tables, so there will certainly be a spot there for him!