Classic American West Coast Boxing

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CNorkusJr wrote:Randy, I'm taking notes. Langers. MacArthur Park area.

Thanks for posting parking lot pictures where Main St. Gym was. As sad as it is, New York has the same view in many places of old boxing sites.
When I first entered my firehouse on 8th Ave in 1985, diagonally across the street from me was the worlds biggest parking lot. A whole city block- length and width.
It was where the famous Madison Sq. Garden stood from the 1930's-60's. My mind wandered all the time I looked over there. As I stated earlier-a huge NY highrise now stands there; as Manhattan property that big is too valuable to remain a parking lot.
Great food at Langer's Deli and also at Canter's in the Fairfax district near the Farmer's Market.

Charlie, MacArthur Park and the surrounding WestLake area is not what it used to be. What I said in an earlier post about being on full scale fight alert would apply here. However it does seem to be getting better. The nearby area has turned into a third world country. That Langer's has not only survived but has thrived is a testimony to it's good eats. In the day there would be no problem but don't be there when the lights go out.
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Expug wrote:Looking forward to seeing you two also Randy, :TU:
:TU: :TU:
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Expug wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Hey Brian . . .

I've been following the Black Hawks from a distance.
Hope things are going well for you.
Thanks Rick,
Fighting for a playoff spot. We play Pittsburgh at home tomorrow. After the game we fly to St.Louis. Wish us luck. :TU:
Brian, Take a close up look at the Penguins noses. If they look a little bent out of shape,its from the Islander game last week.
Usually 2 or 3 times a year I go to an Islander game now. Down from my prime, years ago of about 12 games a year.
I was at the Islander- Pittsburg game last week with all the fist-a-cuffs. My friend treated me to front row next to Islanders penalty box. Like my friend said, we went to the fights and a hockey game broke out. I been going to Islanders games since 1972 and never saw anything like it. I was also at Bruins game in 1970's when Terry OReilly went over boards into stands to fight a fan. The Penguin game took the cake though.
Isles are on a roll, but I'm afraid its too little, too late this year.
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Yep Charley, I saw the fights in that game with The Pens also.
We were in Dallas playing The Stars and between periods I strolled intro one of the training rooms in the lockeroom area and the game was on. I thought I was watching a repeat of The Seventies. :lol:
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Nonito Donaire doing his best to become the number one Filipino fighter in the world. He just might have stolen some of Pacquiao's fans. Congrats to Donaire for his quick work on Montiel.

You could tell right from the start that Donaire was the quicker,sharper puncher. Montiel had his chin up and his hands low. After throwing a right hand and bringing it back way too low, Doniare caught him with a counter left hook. Montiel's legs were flailing. I don't know why the ref let it go on. The light was already out.
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A crosswalk in Ireland. :P
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Randyman wrote:Nonito Donaire doing his best to become the number one Filipino fighter in the world. He just might have stolen some of Pacquiao's fans. Congrats to Donaire for his quick work on Montiel.

You could tell right from the start that Donaire was the quicker,sharper puncher. Montiel had his chin up and his hands low. After throwing a right hand and bringing it back way too low, Doniare caught him with a counter left hook. Montiel's legs were flailing. I don't know why the ref let it go on. The light was already out.
Randy, I agree with everything you wrote, damn ref!!!.... :shame: . I had seen Montiel fight before, had never been sold on him.....
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Stole this from a Facebook friend, had to do it!!

Life is traveled only once..Today's moment becomes tomorrow's memory..Enjoy every moment; good, bad, happy, or sad;because the gift of life is LIFE itself....to all my friends today... laugh a little louder, smile a little larger, dream a little further, love a little extra and live a little happier!
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kikibalt wrote:Stole this from a Facebook friend, had to do it!!

Life is traveled only once..Today's moment becomes tomorrow's memory..Enjoy every moment; good, bad, happy, or sad;because the gift of life is LIFE itself....to all my friends today... laugh a little louder, smile a little larger, dream a little further, love a little extra and live a little happier!
That was great advice Frank and something we all need to be reminded about from time to time. :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Nonito Donaire doing his best to become the number one Filipino fighter in the world. He just might have stolen some of Pacquiao's fans. Congrats to Donaire for his quick work on Montiel.

You could tell right from the start that Donaire was the quicker,sharper puncher. Montiel had his chin up and his hands low. After throwing a right hand and bringing it back way too low, Doniare caught him with a counter left hook. Montiel's legs were flailing. I don't know why the ref let it go on. The light was already out.
Randy, I agree with everything you wrote, damn ref!!!.... :shame: . I had seen Montiel fight before, had never been sold on him.....
Montiel took a couple of shots from Donaire after he got up. It should have never happened. The referee was Russell Mora. What was he thinking?
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The coffee is on the stove right now brewing. A few more minutes. :DDD
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Randyman wrote:The coffee is on the stove right now brewing. A few more minutes. :DDD
I'm having mine right now, a bit late for me.... :witzend:
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Nonito Donaire doing his best to become the number one Filipino fighter in the world. He just might have stolen some of Pacquiao's fans. Congrats to Donaire for his quick work on Montiel.

You could tell right from the start that Donaire was the quicker,sharper puncher. Montiel had his chin up and his hands low. After throwing a right hand and bringing it back way too low, Doniare caught him with a counter left hook. Montiel's legs were flailing. I don't know why the ref let it go on. The light was already out.
Randy, I agree with everything you wrote, damn ref!!!.... :shame: . I had seen Montiel fight before, had never been sold on him.....
Montiel took a couple of shots from Donaire after he got up. It should have never happened. The referee was Russell Mora. What was he thinking?
Mora needs to go to referee school. I can't believe the way Montiel fights, with his hands low, chin up in the air, who in his right mind would teach a kid to fight like that???
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Randy, I agree with everything you wrote, damn ref!!!.... :shame: . I had seen Montiel fight before, had never been sold on him.....
Montiel took a couple of shots from Donaire after he got up. It should have never happened. The referee was Russell Mora. What was he thinking?
Mora needs to go to referee school. I can't believe the way Montiel fights, with his hands low, chin up in the air, who in his right mind would teach a kid to fight like that???
Someone that doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground!
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A few weeks ago Jeri and I went to Philippe in downtown L.A. for lunch. Philippe is famous for their French Dip sandwiches. They’re also famous for being the creators of the French Dip sandwiches. They have a long running dispute with Cole’s from over on 6th street as to who actually created it but the general consensus as far as I can tell has always been Philippe. Langer’s and Cantor’s have a similar rivalry with their pastrami sandwiches. Here are a few photos from Philippe.

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Jeri attacking her beef dip sandwich.

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Two beef dips, one pork dip, macaroni salad, pickles and lemonade.
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I'm enjoying my first cup of coffee right now. Got some pancakes and sausages coming up for breakfast later on this morning. It's how I keep my youthful figure. :OhYes:
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Randyman wrote:A few weeks ago Jeri and I went to Philippe in downtown L.A. for lunch. Philippe is famous for their French Dip sandwiches. They’re also famous for being the creators of the French Dip sandwiches. They have a long running dispute with Cole’s from over on 6th street as to who actually created it but the general consensus as far as I cant ell has always been Philippe. Langer’s and Cantor’s have a similar rivalry with their pastrami sandwiches. Here are a few photos from Philippe.

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Jeri attacking her beef dip sandwich.

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Two beef dips, one pork dip, macaroni salad, pickles and lemonade.
The food looks great, but the tray looks like its been around since, well!, 1908.... :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:A few weeks ago Jeri and I went to Philippe in downtown L.A. for lunch. Philippe is famous for their French Dip sandwiches. They’re also famous for being the creators of the French Dip sandwiches. They have a long running dispute with Cole’s from over on 6th street as to who actually created it but the general consensus as far as I cant ell has always been Philippe. Langer’s and Cantor’s have a similar rivalry with their pastrami sandwiches. Here are a few photos from Philippe.

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Jeri attacking her beef dip sandwich.

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Two beef dips, one pork dip, macaroni salad, pickles and lemonade.
The food looks great, but the tray looks like its been around since, well!, 1908.... :lol:
They do look pretty raggedy don't they :roll: When we got there it was about noon,the lines were backed up almost to the wall. They move quickly. They have such a high turnover rate that makes me think they must go through a lot of trays during the year. That tray may actually be a week or two old. :lol:
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I saw one of my favorite old westerns on the western channel last night, Winchester 73 with Jimmy Stewart and Shelley Winters. These old westerns are the types of movies my father and I used to enjoy watching on a Saturday or Sunday morning. They really don't make them like this anymore.

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Jimmy Stewart and Charles Drake
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Randyman wrote:I saw one of my favorite old westerns on the western channel last night, Winchester 73 with Jimmy Stewart and Shelley Winters. These old westerns are the types of movies my father and I used to enjoy watching on a Saturday or Sunday morning. They really don't make them like this anymore.

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Jimmy Stewart and Charles Drake
You seen a classic Randy.... :bow: :bow:
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Randyman wrote:I saw one of my favorite old westerns on the western channel last night, Winchester 73 with Jimmy Stewart and Shelley Winters. These old westerns are the types of movies my father and I used to enjoy watching on a Saturday or Sunday morning. They really don't make them like this anymore.

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Jimmy Stewart and Charles Drake
The original "True Grit" . . .

Randy . . . I was thinking of you and Frank last night as I watched the original "True Grit" on AMC.
As I've mentioned, one of my uncles worked on that film as well as it's sequal. Rooster Cogburn.
My uncle was not the lighting director on that one, but the assistant to one of the best feature LD's in Hollywood history, Earl Gilbert.
My Uncle traveled the world with Earl during the 60's and early 70's, and they made some all-time classic films. I recall when I was a kid my cousin was always on the road with his dad & mom, that is when school was out. My uncle worked with Earl Gilbert thruout Europe, and here in the States they did films such as the two I mentioned above, as well as "The Graduate", "Catch-22" which wasfilmed here at Paramount Studios as well as Guaymos, Mexico (spelling?).
As I watched True Grit, which they made in the late 60's, I enjoyed the beautiful photography and the brilliant lighting. In those days, the film was a bit slower and this gave it a rich brilliant look when the lighting was balanced correctly. The slower the film emulsion, the more light necessary to illuminate the subjects. On those daytime exterior shots, earl would use quite a few "Arc Lights" which required a lot of power to energize. Instead of a light bulb, and arc light burns carbon like the old search lights you's see on the street at super market openings when we were kids. They would color correct the lights to match the scene and when I saw The Duke lit so nicely, artistically back lit in every shot by the sun it literally gave me goose bumps. Kim Darby looked great. Eastman always made the best film stock,. The Japanese came in during the 70's and tried to push Fuji film, but it didn't measure up to the Eastman stock. Sorry for all the technical dialogue, I got a little carried away by such a beautiful image on the screen. Those images were a lot more difficult to create back in the day, no computers to "fix" things on the screen. Westerns were great to work on, and I'm glad I learned to light them the "old school" way thru my family and Michael LAndon. I'm sure the new "True Grit" looks great, as well. And a part of me wishes I could have lit that film myself, with Michael Landon's legendary cinematographer, the late Ted Voitlander calling the shots from behind the lens. Sometimes it's fun to dream. By the way, I would later have a chance to work with Earl Gilbert myself, as one of his lighting tech's on the moview Zanadu at Universal in 1978. Earl was one of my mentors, the best of the best of Hollywood LD's in the years after my grandfather had retired. Cinematographers would kiss his arse trying to get him to light there big films, he commanded such respect on his big films. The Duke insisted that Earl Gilbert light "True Grit", and the film was delayed until Earl Gilbert had finished a previous film and available for the True Grit production. This came from the top offices at Paramount, who produced the western classic.
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Randyman wrote:A few weeks ago Jeri and I went to Philippe in downtown L.A. for lunch. Philippe is famous for their French Dip sandwiches. They’re also famous for being the creators of the French Dip sandwiches. They have a long running dispute with Cole’s from over on 6th street as to who actually created it but the general consensus as far as I can tell has always been Philippe. Langer’s and Cantor’s have a similar rivalry with their pastrami sandwiches. Here are a few photos from Philippe.

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Jeri attacking her beef dip sandwich.

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Two beef dips, one pork dip, macaroni salad, pickles and lemonade.

Randy, my grandmother (my dad's mother) worked as a cashier at Philippe's for more than thirty years.
On saturday mornings, during the mid-60's, my grandfather (my mom's father) and I would have lunch at Philippe's after I finished my workout at the Main St. Gym. Sometimes we'd see Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez eating there. By the way, my grandmother lived to the age of 103!
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Randyman wrote:Jeri and I had pastrami on our minds today. We were thinking about Grinder Haven in Ontario but switched gears and decided to head to L.A.. We headed for Langer's Deli just west of downtown L.A. in the MacArthur Park area. Langer's is famous for their pastrami sandwiches. Langer's has been around since the 1940's and judging by the look of it it is probably the only hold over from Los Angeles' glory days.

Jeri ordered the number 19 or as they like to call it "The Legendary number 19", a pastrami sandwich on rye with swiss cheese, cole slaw and Russian dressing. Jeri asked for her sandwich to be served with toasted sourdough.The slaw is served in the sandwich. Jeri looked like she was enjoying it so I asked " How's the sandwich? All she could say was "Hmmm!" It's good? I asked again. "Very good" she said. So I said "Better than Grinder Haven"? "Just as good but different.

I ordered a half pastrami on rye with swiss cheese and Russian dressing along with the chicken matzo ball soup with noodles. Everything was outstanding. It amazes me how pastrami could be so good and so different from restaurant to restaurant. I've had both the corned beef sandwich and pastrami sandwich at Carnigies in New York, when it comes to quantity Carnigies has it over on Langer's but Langer's holds it's own in quality and taste. Also, the pickles at Carnigies were the best I've ever had.

After we ate we drove over to Main Street. I wanted to look at the spot where the old gym once stood. It has been gone for years but this time I wanted to get a picture. I was amazed at how the area has changed. Downtown has been trying to rebuild and reinvent itself for years. No more bums in the street. Frank and Rick will remember stepping over and around the poor souls that littered Main Street near the gym, many of them former fighters. Across the street where Johnnie's Shrimp Boat once stood is a new building. Nothing stays the same.

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Langer's Deli on the corner of 7th and Alvarado.

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The Legendary number 19

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My half pastrami sandwich above and

Matzo Ball and Noodle soup below. (Good Stuff)
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Two views of the empty space where the Main Street Gym once stood
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Randy, I just showed Monica that little sandwich and tiny bowl of Matza ball soup. She laughed.
I see you have coleslaw on your sandwich and that's what I like as well.
Monica says the photo above is comparable to a "half-order" at Art's.
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Don Fraser . . .

Just spoke with Don, he'll meet me at Art's Deli tomorrow for lunch.
This will be a good chance for me to ask a few more questions for a story I've been attempting to finish.
I'll take a couple pictures. Anybody care to join me for lunch at Art's sometime, just let me know and it's on me. :TU:
There is good Deli food thruout L.A., Art's is one of the best.
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33,000 posts!!!!

The last post passed the 33,000 mark.
We are exactly three years old, and have averaged 11,000 posts per year.
Nothing on the web can compare. :bow: :bow:
We've come a long way from Pug's original post relating to Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez.
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