ANthony Small update, warns British people

[Final round]

Ferry for Small please

[ThePaddock]

Rubber dinghy rapids, bro!

[Yes We Can]

Not the greatest public speaker is Anthony. Good comedy value mind you.

The only worthwile point in there is the fact it is a highly illegal war. But i feel there are far more educated people than himself to put this across to the wider public in a way that doesnt make muslims look like a bunch of radicalist idiots.

Actally i stand corrected he's right, the EDL are absolute scum of the earth.

Next bout rumour.....

Small vs The entire EDL

[hurlock]

u can say what you want about the west not occupying these muslim countries, and you are right in a way, we shouldn't have got involved.however does that justify c@nts like small and the rest of his g@yboy gang shouting abuse about burning poppies, that us brits are gonna get it etc? why dont they all fck off out of the country they hate so much? oh just a minute, is that cos they wouldnt be able to scrounge off the state anywhere else? fck me, if they were in Iran for example saying "death to iranians" they would be fckin publicy strung up and executed. its about time we started to grow some balls as a nation, show some pride and fcking put these tw@ts on a boat and make sure they never come back. oh better still put them on a plane and blow it up in midair like they wanna do to us. white, black, muslim, christian, whatever u are, if you consider yourself a brit these cnts are threatening you, fight back..

i didnt like the threatening.to think my child could be innocently murderd by these fukers or any family & friends the EDL just look like a bunch of chavs. it's not like everyone wants or wanted a war & him saying his brothers are being murderd by soldiers, do soldiers fire at un-armed civilians

[Coco]

u can say what you want about the west not occupying these muslim countries, and you are right in a way, we shouldn't have got involved.however does that justify c@nts like small and the rest of his g@yboy gang shouting abuse about burning poppies, that us brits are gonna get it etc? why dont they all fck off out of the country they hate so much? oh just a minute, is that cos they wouldnt be able to scrounge off the state anywhere else? fck me, if they were in Iran for example saying "death to iranians" they would be fckin publicy strung up and executed. its about time we started to grow some balls as a nation, show some pride and fcking put these tw@ts on a boat and make sure they never come back. oh better still put them on a plane and blow it up in midair like they wanna do to us. white, black, muslim, christian, whatever u are, if you consider yourself a brit these cnts are threatening you, fight back..

i didnt like the threatening.to think my child could be innocently murderd by these fukers or any family & friends the EDL just look like a bunch of chavs. it's not like everyone wants or wanted a war & him saying his brothers are being murderd by soldiers, do soldiers fire at un-armed civilians

I think that is the issue for many muslims, and many who have sympathised with the extremists, the fact is it is women and kids dying, over a milllion people have died in the region, random bombings do not discriminate against who they kill. It is also the fault of our media who tend to gloss over these facts

[reggaereggae]

u can say what you want about the west not occupying these muslim countries, and you are right in a way, we shouldn't have got involved.however does that justify c@nts like small and the rest of his g@yboy gang shouting abuse about burning poppies, that us brits are gonna get it etc? why dont they all fck off out of the country they hate so much? oh just a minute, is that cos they wouldnt be able to scrounge off the state anywhere else? fck me, if they were in Iran for example saying "death to iranians" they would be fckin publicy strung up and executed. its about time we started to grow some balls as a nation, show some pride and fcking put these tw@ts on a boat and make sure they never come back. oh better still put them on a plane and blow it up in midair like they wanna do to us. white, black, muslim, christian, whatever u are, if you consider yourself a brit these cnts are threatening you, fight back..

i didnt like the threatening.to think my child could be innocently murderd by these fukers or any family & friends the EDL just look like a bunch of chavs. it's not like everyone wants or wanted a war & him saying his brothers are being murderd by soldiers, do soldiers fire at un-armed civilians

I think that is the issue for many muslims, and many who have sympathised with the extremists, the fact is it is women and kids dying, over a milllion people have died in the region, random bombings do not discriminate against who they kill. It is also the fault of our media who tend to gloss over these facts

Very, very tenuous figures...what is your source? The Taliban news?....plus majority of civilian deaths are caused by suicide bombings.

PS I'm against the war. Wish we never went there and wish we would get out FYI.

[reggaereggae]

Here is the wife of a Taliban commander. He came home in a rage, took it out on her and cut off her nose and her ears.

I'd like to see Anthony justify the actions of his "brother" on this.

Wouldja?

Which hole? That's 4 I now have to decide over now

jesus, that is dark!

[Atom Bomb]

Most soldiers won't target innocent civilians, but as with any conflict, there's bound to be ALOT of innocent casualties caused both the coalition forces and whoever they're fighting.
This and the fact that these wars are in countries with a large muslim population is why it really gets and feels 'personal' with alot of muslims who feel they're being targetted.

The majority will quietly complain about the politics and just get on with living peacefully in any modern/western country.

Then there's people who take it into their own hands and start blowing themselves up in the name of god who'll just feul the EDL + and the rest of them fascist thugs who in turn get a response from 'muslim' fascists and so on.

Why don't people understand, regardless of religion, nationality, skin colour or background, deep down, we're all the same?

[Coco]

i didnt like the threatening.to think my child could be innocently murderd by these fukers or any family & friends the EDL just look like a bunch of chavs. it's not like everyone wants or wanted a war & him saying his brothers are being murderd by soldiers, do soldiers fire at un-armed civilians

I think that is the issue for many muslims, and many who have sympathised with the extremists, the fact is it is women and kids dying, over a milllion people have died in the region, random bombings do not discriminate against who they kill. It is also the fault of our media who tend to gloss over these facts

Very, very tenuous figures...what is your source? The Taliban news?....plus majority of civilian deaths are caused by suicide bombings.

PS I'm against the war. Wish we never went there and wish we would get out FYI.

The ORB (Opinion Research Business), an independent polling agency located in London, reckon it's over 1.2 million and thats just Iraq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_survey ... casualties

Opinion in Northern Ireland was radicalised when it was felt the balance needed to be redressed when the British Army was intensified. Since a genuine offer of peace and comprimise was made with the Good Friday Agreement and Power Sharing the war was effectively ended. You will always have extremists on either side but their opinion has been alienated as the ordinary person wants peace and stability.
In essence we just need to start being nicer to the muslim world and they will just worry about normal life and not about revenge attacks.
They will probably want to keep their oil too!

[thepocketrocket]

Interesting theory...but these people are actually British with British heritage....you can't pack them off to 'Pakiland' as that country doesn't exist.

you didnt read my statement correctly, i said they should be kicked out of the country, not to the land you mention. if they hate britain so much then surely they do not want to be classed as british, so surely they forfeit their right to be called british as well? anyway read what people really say next time, dont put words in their mouths

The point I was making is that they are British and have long since lost any links with the Arab lands from whence they came. Hence we can't kick them out as there is nowhere for them to go, not even a tenuous link to another nationality....

[Atom Bomb]

Interesting theory...but these people are actually British with British heritage....you can't pack them off to 'Pakiland' as that country doesn't exist.

you didnt read my statement correctly, i said they should be kicked out of the country, not to the land you mention. if they hate britain so much then surely they do not want to be classed as british, so surely they forfeit their right to be called british as well? anyway read what people really say next time, dont put words in their mouths

The point I was making is that they are British and have long since lost any links with the Arab lands from whence they came. Hence we can't kick them out as there is nowhere for them to go, not even a tenuous link to another nationality....

Actually, the majority - seeing a though most British muslims aren't from an Arab heritage do have a good link with their country of origin (India/Pakistan). This generation will anyway, the future generations won't, most of the kids at the moment hardly know their own native language.

[leforge]

The problem is the Fundemental Muslims they make it bad for all 98percent of normal Muslims as the ignorant judge them the same. Fundemental Muslims are as bad as the Nazi party with there beliefs.

[Coco]

http://www.countercurrents.org/polya220509.htm

[Des1]

The problem is the Fundemental Muslims they make it bad for all 98percent of normal Muslims as the ignorant judge them the same. Fundemental Muslims are as bad as the Nazi party with there beliefs.

Yet the same could be said about the Fundemental EDL but thats rarely highlighted

[Tommy Gunn13]

Im goin to have to comment....Why waste your time commenting on him?? his name&his record should be gone!!!

[Atom Bomb]

The problem is the Fundemental Muslims they make it bad for all 98percent of normal Muslims as the ignorant judge them the same. Fundemental Muslims are as bad as the Nazi party with there beliefs.

Not to get PC on the wording, but you do know the fundamentals of Islam are pretty different to what people regard as a 'fundamentalist'? That word sort of portrays the religions base teachings as something which promotes violence, death and lunatism.

I prefer the term Nutters.

[hurlock]

The problem is the Fundemental Muslims they make it bad for all 98percent of normal Muslims as the ignorant judge them the same. Fundemental Muslims are as bad as the Nazi party with there beliefs.

Not to get PC on the wording, but you do know the fundamentals of Islam are pretty different to what people regard as a 'fundamentalist'? That word sort of portrays the religions base teachings as something which promotes violence, death and lunatism.

I prefer the term Nutters.

IT'S MEANT TO BE a peace loving religion & you dont get anyone standing up & protecting it's image which imo say's alot.

[Dan Dares]

The problem is the Fundemental Muslims they make it bad for all 98 percent of normal Muslims as the ignorant judge them the same. Fundemental Muslims are as bad as the Nazi party with there beliefs.

Not to get PC on the wording, but you do know the fundamentals of Islam are pretty different to what people regard as a 'fundamentalist'? That word sort of portrays the religions base teachings as something which promotes violence, death and lunatism.

I prefer the term Nutters.

IT'S MEANT TO BE a peace loving religion & you dont get anyone standing up & protecting it's image which imo say's alot.

The Koran, just like Nostradamus, can be interpreted in many different ways, and people from all religions use bespoke interpretations of 'their book' in order to explain their actions. I heard a Church of England representative quote the bible in order to justify the organisations' investment in nuclear weapons once.

I feel sorry for Small. He was, in the main, an exciting fighter with a lot of talent, but he was never the sharpest knife in the drawer, and some perverted arsehole has got inside his head.

[freddydoesdallas]

Rubber dinghy rapids, bro!

fornicate mini babybels

[observer1]

The problem is the Fundemental Muslims they make it bad for all 98percent of normal Muslims as the ignorant judge them the same. Fundemental Muslims are as bad as the Nazi party with there beliefs.

Yet the same could be said about the Fundemental EDL but thats rarely highlighted

There is no "Fundamental" background in EDL.

It's a group of people set out with one thing in common. Hate against Muslims.

You have Jews, Sikhs, Racists, etc.

Ironically, the only thing you dont have are Nazi's.

You ever seen any of their "protests"? Bunch of hooligans pissed out of their skulls.

[Atom Bomb]

The problem is the Fundemental Muslims they make it bad for all 98percent of normal Muslims as the ignorant judge them the same. Fundemental Muslims are as bad as the Nazi party with there beliefs.

Not to get PC on the wording, but you do know the fundamentals of Islam are pretty different to what people regard as a 'fundamentalist'? That word sort of portrays the religions base teachings as something which promotes violence, death and lunatism.

I prefer the term Nutters.

IT'S MEANT TO BE a peace loving religion & you dont get anyone standing up & protecting it's image which imo say's alot.

It IS a peace loving religion, have you not noticed that there are people who speak out against it but its not good enough to headline? People would much rather read about Katie Price's new implants or the Haye, Klitchko farce than a little old mosque man making a speech against murdering people in the name of god.

Neither will people notice that in most mosques who are 'up with the time' kids are now taught about drugs, terrorism and blending religion with modern society and overall just being a good person. Its by far interesting watching the bad bits.

[reggaereggae]

Not to get PC on the wording, but you do know the fundamentals of Islam are pretty different to what people regard as a 'fundamentalist'? That word sort of portrays the religions base teachings as something which promotes violence, death and lunatism.

I prefer the term Nutters.

IT'S MEANT TO BE a peace loving religion & you dont get anyone standing up & protecting it's image which imo say's alot.

It IS a peace loving religion, have you not noticed that there are people who speak out against it but its not good enough to headline? People would much rather read about Katie Price's new implants or the Haye, Klitchko farce than a little old mosque man making a speech against murdering people in the name of god.

Neither will people notice that in most mosques who are 'up with the time' kids are now taught about drugs, terrorism and blending religion with modern society and overall just being a good person. Its by far interesting watching the bad bits.

This is possibly the silliest thing I have ever seen written about ISlam...

It is possibly a bit of a peace loving religion; but only for other Muslims and those who follow it without deviance (and even then it's not too peaceful as there are different conflicting sects and plenty of violent punishment for Muslims who have 'transgressed'.)

And if you're a non-muslim and especially Jewish (apparently turned into apes and pigs by 'allah'); then Islam is anything but peace loving. I suggest you read the Quran (supposely God's actual words) and see how peace-loving it is... no amount of rose-tinted spectacle wearing or liberal wishful thinking can hide the violence in the Qur'an and thus in Islam.

Please do not answer unless you have read the Koran in its entirety (I have - when I was going through a very tough set of personal circumstances I toyed with Islam, read the Qur'an in its entirety, and was confused that the so-called word of god was so violent, so aggressive so 'unloving'.

Also please do not post saying I need to read it in Arabic to understand it and other red herrings, there are many English translations accepted by so-called Islamic scholars.... and please don't try the old 'the people that preach or commit violence are not real muslims.... they think they are and tehy have text to justify it. Other red herrings to avoid are criticizing Christianity and citing violent verses in the Bible. I am not defending or offering any organised religion. It's all fairy-tale nonsense, one thing I learned during my 'enlightenment' as I recovered from that deep depression and soul-searching. So do your research if you seek the criticize.

PS ADMINS - please can this be moved to the 'other' forum, so a reasonable debate can be encouraged - the thread has no longer anytghing to do with boxing. Thanks

[Atom Bomb]

...don't assume that you can understand the religion by simply reading and the holy scripture as 'just a book to be taken in its literal sense' there's much more to it. Are you in some way implying that you're more accomplished in the religion than men and women who've dedicated years of their life to studying everything there is to know about it?

Besides, even if it was, logically looking at it, most muslims wouldn't go out and mistreat someone just because they're different just as any athiest, christian, jew and so on wouldn't.

...and human nature is alot more powerful than religion.

[reggaereggae]

...don't assume that you can understand the religion by simply reading and the holy scripture as 'just a book to be taken in its literal sense' there's much more to it. Are you in some way implying that you're more accomplished in the religion than men and women who've dedicated years of their life to studying everything there is to know about it?Besides, even if it was, logically looking at it, most muslims wouldn't go out and mistreat someone just because they're different just as any athiest, christian, jew and so on wouldn't.

...and human nature is alot more powerful than religion.

I don't mind what golden magical hegehog people want to misguidedly worship as log as people strive for peace and some kind of love and kindness... and there are plenty of MUslims who do. I had a great time in Jordan, Palestine and Syria - and there were very warm, friendly people there. I am not criticising peopel, just a text.

The women and men you describe study it BECAUSE they are muslims and believe it....so their word is hardly to be taken seriously, as proof of Islam's magnitude as they are delusional fools intoxicated with superstition and fear (in my less than all-knowing opinion, naturally.)

If any Muslims or indeed any other religion, wants to believe in their religion without commiting violence or tryinmg to convert others; I have no problem. Violence has been committed in the name of (I believe) most if not all religions, I realise. I am against violence, hatred of people that don't belive a certain creed and that is all.

[observer1]

You Atheist reggae?
You know there's been countless of atheists who have butchered not only Muslims but anyone with Religion?

Even today you have countless of Television shows, Websites, Literature and such mocking any form of Religion.
Dang even the system implemented in most western countries are secular atheist orientated and discriminate against those with Religion in many ways.

Point being, whatever it is you said, can be applied to you too.