Nathan Cleverly-Matthew Hatton

[Londonirish]

There's some Boxers with Early Record's that i would'nt imagine that they'd get that far.. Nathan Cleverly only beating Ernie Smith 39-38 on his debut, and Darren Gethin 39-38 in his second fight.. Matthew Hatton getting beat by David Kirk twice Ashley Theophane was 7-0 after his 1st lose to a guy 0-1-3, then a 5-4-0 and drawing with Daniel Thorpe... Any other's you know?

[stujones]

Johnny Nelson

Carl Thompson (losing to Ashley, getting stopped by Davis).

[Coco]

Michael Gomez lost to Danny Ruegg

[Coco]

Scott Harrison lost to Miguel Matthews

[ed robinson]

Bernard Hopkins losing his pro debut and then not boxing for a couple of years.

[Londonirish]

Johnny Nelson

Carl Thompson (losing to Ashley, getting stopped by Davis).

Great calls

Michael Gomez lost to Danny Ruegg

Didnt know that after looking he won 5 of he's 1st 8 losing to a 7-6-1, 2-8-0, 0-1-0

[Scottrf]

Loads. Henry Armstrong lost his first fight by knockout and 3 of his first 4, one of the greatest of all time. Hopkins, Conn, Arguello etc all lost their first bout.

[palooka]

Wilfredo Gomez drew against Jacinto Fuentes who was 2-1-0 in his debut; he went 32 straight knock outs including Fuentes in a rematch.

[Deserter]

And this thread alone proves the fallacy of the 'unbeaten record' somehow equalling a superior boxer.

[lefty]

Hagler dropped two in Philly and had a draw against Seales. He went onto become the best fighter of all time (in my eyes).

no thats charlie zelenoff

[Tommy Gunn13]

On a lesser level,didnt Richard Williams&Jason Cook lose early on in there careers...

[taffytoon]

Hagler dropped two in Philly and had a draw against Seales. He went onto become the best fighter of all time (in my eyes).

You need to get your eyes checked

[Coco]

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

This fella turned his career around!

[Tommy Gunn13]

Steve Robinson lost plenty of early fights&went on to be world champion

[Tommy Gunn13]

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

This fella turned his career around!

That was a bad start to his pro career

[Londonirish]

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

This fella turned his career around!

That was a bad start to his pro career

You aint wrong.... Also Chris Edwards has done well for him self considering he was a journey man...

[palooka]

On a lesser level,didnt Richard Williams&Jason Cook lose early on in there careers...

Williams dropped a points decision to Michael Alexander. The stuff he produced was so mind bogglingly ahead of its time that the ref didn't know how to score it. A post-fight examination of his scored card showed that in Williams's round-by-round column the official had scrawled the word 'Wibble', this led to Alexander winning it despite not rising above a 9 in every single round.

A mate of mine was a stablemate of Alexanders' and was absolutely sure that it was a 6 x 2 mins and that Richard was stopped. I am aware that the boxrec records have it differently but can someone please check in Boxing News (2nd September 1997). There's a quid on it :)

[Poncey]

I still think Nathan lost to Joey Vegas on the Kessler undercard.

[Tommy Gunn13]

On a lesser level,didnt Richard Williams&Jason Cook lose early on in there careers...

Williams dropped a points decision to Michael Alexander. The stuff he produced was so mind bogglingly ahead of its time that the ref didn't know how to score it. A post-fight examination of his scored card showed that in Williams's round-by-round column the official had scrawled the word 'Wibble', this led to Alexander winning it despite not rising above a 9 in every single round.

A mate of mine was a stablemate of Alexanders' and was absolutely sure that it was a 6 x 2 mins and that Richard was stopped. I am aware that the boxrec records have it differently but can someone please check in Boxing News (2nd September 1997). There's a quid on it :)

Im sure your won a quid

[palooka]

I hope so, times are hard but he'll owe me for a year or 2; he's a right tight b*stard, if he's right though i'll have to pay straight up

[ChristoDuran]

Didn't Margarito lose his first contest? Just before he found some quick set cement from B&Q

[Tomasino]

Harry Greb went 4-1-2 in his first seven including being KO'd by one of the Chip brothers.

[Andy]

There's some Boxers with Early Record's that i would'nt imagine that they'd get that far.. Nathan Cleverly only beating Ernie Smith 39-38 on his debut, and Darren Gethin 39-38 in his second fight.. Matthew Hatton getting beat by David Kirk twice Ashley Theophane was 7-0 after his 1st lose to a guy 0-1-3, then a 5-4-0 and drawing with Daniel Thorpe... Any other's you know?

Hi Martin,
One of those losses you have down as being to Kirky was against David Keir and if I remember rightly was down to Matthew being cut badly from a head clash

[DavidPayne]

Hagler dropped two in Philly and had a draw against Seales. He went onto become the best fighter of all time (in my eyes).

You need to get your eyes checked :wink:

Nah, his record speaks for itself and he was very, very good when in his prime. His legacy matches many others and in terms of style I'd give him a shout over the likes of Robinson.

SRR was a welterweight.

[Poncey]

Tell that to Joey Maxim