How Champions Are Made - Essential reading

[DIRT SUGAR]

Some of it has to be about being a product of one's environment. Like someone said, boxers are from tough areas and it's an ends to a means and if you have a lot of boxing clubs in such areas it makes sense that you are going to produce more quality fighters.

For instance, my neck in the woods in Ramsgate, Kent. You would have the Southern Counties championships and a good bunch of winners who you thought were going to do really well and then they'd face the North East Counties in the next round and the gap in class was immediate. But the northern areas had more clubs which = more facilities, which = more boxers which = better fighters. Simples.

[Andypittcov]

Deep within man dwell those slumbering powers
powers that would astonish him
that he never dreamed of possesing
forces that would revolutionize his life if aroused and put into action

-Orison swett marden.

[dondada]

Deep within man dwell those slumbering powers
powers that would astonish him
that he never dreamed of possesing
forces that would revolutionize his life if aroused and put into action

-Orison swett marden.

Good quote, and true with it. Shame I'm too much of a lazy bastard to get 'aroused'...

[Deserter]

"Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell is a great read and puts forward a similar idea, looking at outrageously successful people and arguing that a great part of success can be attributed to circumstantial luck - where you're born, when you're born, etc.To say that success is part talent part coaching/nurture is fairly obvious and not particularly insightful.

Mate, Syed's book uses Outliers as a 'springboard' and he very explicitly acknowledges it from the off. And the whole book is far more insightful/thought-provoking than you may think

[lefty]

Some of it has to be about being a product of one's environment. Like someone said, boxers are from tough areas and it's an ends to a means and if you have a lot of boxing clubs in such areas it makes sense that you are going to produce more quality fighters.

For instance, my neck in the woods in Ramsgate, Kent. You would have the Southern Counties championships and a good bunch of winners who you thought were going to do really well and then they'd face the North East Counties in the next round and the gap in class was immediate. But the northern areas had more clubs which = more facilities, which = more boxers which = better fighters. Simples.

I agree but not completely,For instance marco antonio barrera is one of the greatest fighters of all time and yet he came from an afluent mexican family and like someone else said,no matter how much work you put into it not everyone is going to have the athletic ability of roy jones or sugar ray leonard,etc.Its a combination of the two.

[palooka]

Question answered below:

'Now, my bonny lad, you are mine! And we'll see if one tree won't grow as crooked as another, with the same wind to twist it!'

You have some class, thought provoking quotations, respect due

[Giancarlo]

Desire is of great importance.

To carry on with quotes from the masterpiece:


I have lost the faculty of enjoying their destruction, and I am too idle to destroy for nothing.

[wesley05]

personally i think its a combination of talent and enviroment,ie it doesnt matter if you grow up in a brilliant enviroment suited to table tennis if you have no hand-eye coordination

You'll have to read the book Lefty (never too late to start your education ), but his whole premise is that any normal person can acquire ability through purposeful practice e.g. people would see him as a youngster and say he had natural hand-eye co-ordination, but he says what they didn't realise was that it had only come about through years of practice against an older brother from a young age.

il have to check it out,sounds good!Actually when i was about 10/11 i was very good at tennis and was told by this guy who had come in to our school to assess a tournament that i should get private coaching as i had potential.Never did though as didnt have the money.I also lost by a point to a guy who was a former county champion in table tennis and to be honest i wasnt playing full out,just enjoying the game.I didnt know he had been a county champion until after the game either.

boring.... feel like being sick

[lefty]

You'll have to read the book Lefty (never too late to start your education ), but his whole premise is that any normal person can acquire ability through purposeful practice e.g. people would see him as a youngster and say he had natural hand-eye co-ordination, but he says what they didn't realise was that it had only come about through years of practice against an older brother from a young age.

il have to check it out,sounds good!Actually when i was about 10/11 i was very good at tennis and was told by this guy who had come in to our school to assess a tournament that i should get private coaching as i had potential.Never did though as didnt have the money.I also lost by a point to a guy who was a former county champion in table tennis and to be honest i wasnt playing full out,just enjoying the game.I didnt know he had been a county champion until after the game either.

boring.... feel like being sick

Dont read it then weasel