nobby_nobbins wrote:I really hope FW has something to say about this. Chisora would have provided a much better challenge than most people expect. He doesn't have the one punch power of Haye but is a more complete package. It is also not about the money for Chisora. He just wanted that fight. Wladimir tries hard to come across as a gentleman but once again he has shown himself to be dishonourable.
Seriously? In what way is Chisora a 'more complete' package than a two-weight world champion? Not only was Haye a clearly better amateur boxer than Chisora, he is also miles ahead of him as a pro. If the two ever sparred, I guarantee Chisora wouldn't land a shot.
Also, are people really feeling sorry for Chisora because he was tossed to the kerb? Purlease. Do we want this sport to stay alive, or what? Boxing needs fights like Haye-Klitschko to keep its head above water. Who gives a shit about Chisora? It's like saying you'd rather Manchester United faced Plymouth Argyle than Chelsea. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention, Chisora is about as unlikeable as any boxer can get.
It's simple really. Wlad signed a contract to fight Chisora. He should honour it.
Why mention Haye's belts? I wasn't talking about ring accomplishments or experience. I was just talking about what I see in the ring. Chisora can fight on the inside. Haye can't.
Haye would look good on the inside if he was fighting Sam Sexton and shot Danny Williams. He is infinitely better than Chisora. You need to get your head around the fact that Chisora has never faced a world class opponent and he didn't even look great against Sexton.
"So Klitschko V Chisora is off.... Ha Ha Ha, God must truly be a boxing fan! (As my prayers have been answered) My path is finally clear!
"
As one of David Haye's biggest fans, this is hard to take. I hope the pudendum gets beat by Klit. To take the piss out of Del-Boy is harsh. I think Haye's all wrong for Klit, and Haye will definitely win, but a big part of me hopes that Klit gives Haye a "pizza face."
Dioufy wrote:"So Klitschko V Chisora is off.... Ha Ha Ha, God must truly be a boxing fan! (As my prayers have been answered) My path is finally clear!
"
As one of David Haye's biggest fans, this is hard to take. I hope the pudendum gets beat by Klit. To take the piss out of Del-Boy is harsh. I think Haye's all wrong for Klit, and Haye will definitely win, but a big part of me hopes that Klit gives Haye a "pizza face."
I'm a big Haye fan too and was pretty horrified by that tweet.
And why do people keep going on about whether Chisora is a nice person or not? Was Jake la Motta a nice person? Riddick Bowe? Bruno? These people are boxers not social workers. Maybe I'm a bit strange but I'm only interested in Chisora as a boxer.
crusader wrote:Haye would look good on the inside if he was fighting Sam Sexton and shot Danny Williams. He is infinitely better than Chisora. You need to get your head around the fact that Chisora has never faced a world class opponent and he didn't even look great against Sexton.
If you're just looking at experience, then obviously Chisora has no chance against Wlad, but experience isn't the only factor. And I disagree that Haye would have looked good on the inside against Sexton and Williams. He wouldn't have fought them on the inside because he never fights anyone on the inside. Of course he wouldn't have needed to to win, but the fact remains that Haye can't fight on the inside.
well, chirosa will get a backhander of 150k i guess, better than nothing and at least its not a week before the fight. roll on july 2nd.... schalke04 arena anyone?.......
crusader wrote:Haye would look good on the inside if he was fighting Sam Sexton and shot Danny Williams. He is infinitely better than Chisora. You need to get your head around the fact that Chisora has never faced a world class opponent and he didn't even look great against Sexton.
If you're just looking at experience, then obviously Chisora has no chance against Wlad, but experience isn't the only factor. And I disagree that Haye would have looked good on the inside against Sexton and Williams. He wouldn't have fought them on the inside because he never fights anyone on the inside. Of course he wouldn't have needed to to win, but the fact remains that Haye can't fight on the inside.
i dont know where this nonsense about haye not being able to fight on the inside has come from. I swear some people on this site just create things in their heads and post it. I've seen haye drop his opponents countless times even when they are trying to tie him up.
And further to the above comment im pretty sure audley harrison beat williams in 3 rounds and he got smashed to pieces by haye - on the inside.
" Not to mention, Chisora is about as unlikeable as any boxer can get."
I love Chisora !
He's not likeable as such, in fact not at all. But he's rock'n'roll - cool as fvck
Mental talker, ear-biter, painfully ambitious, funny - a proper larger than life to go with the nickname.
Will he get any financial compensation for being dicked about ?
I'm as pleased as the next man that Haye/Wlad will finally be getting it on but how bad have they treated Chisora and I am assuming if they do nothing about it then it must have been another one of these crappy contracts that basically has the opposing fighter tied in knots. because otherwise you would think Chisora would have some sort of avenue to go down in terms of redress or insisting Wlad fights him first.
Not the biggest fan of Del Boy but nobody deserves to be screwed like this, injured be bollocks, there's nowt wrong with Wlad and we all know it, bet if you knocked on his door now and checked his back there would not be a deep heat patch in sight.
Scottrf wrote:The doctor sounds like a bit of a strange man anyway. "Many of the German doctor's treatments are controversial, including using injections of a substance called Hylart, extracted from the crest of cockerels, which is claimed to help lubricate knee injuries and take away the pain. He has also injected honey or calves' blood into patients."
Really? Sign me up for some of that, then! I seriously could do with some of that!
nobby_nobbins wrote:I really hope FW has something to say about this. Chisora would have provided a much better challenge than most people expect. He doesn't have the one punch power of Haye but is a more complete package. It is also not about the money for Chisora. He just wanted that fight. Wladimir tries hard to come across as a gentleman but once again he has shown himself to be dishonourable.
Seriously? In what way is Chisora a 'more complete' package than a two-weight world champion? Not only was Haye a clearly better amateur boxer than Chisora, he is also miles ahead of him as a pro. If the two ever sparred, I guarantee Chisora wouldn't land a shot.
Also, are people really feeling sorry for Chisora because he was tossed to the kerb? Purlease. Do we want this sport to stay alive, or what? Boxing needs fights like Haye-Klitschko to keep its head above water. Who gives a shit about Chisora? It's like saying you'd rather Manchester United faced Plymouth Argyle than Chelsea. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention, Chisora is about as unlikeable as any boxer can get.
I think he means that Chisora has a wider range of skills than Haye, who is quite pedestrian and is always looking for one shot. For a smallish HW Haye's output is very low.
nobby_nobbins wrote:I really hope FW has something to say about this. Chisora would have provided a much better challenge than most people expect. He doesn't have the one punch power of Haye but is a more complete package. It is also not about the money for Chisora. He just wanted that fight. Wladimir tries hard to come across as a gentleman but once again he has shown himself to be dishonourable.
Seriously? In what way is Chisora a 'more complete' package than a two-weight world champion? Not only was Haye a clearly better amateur boxer than Chisora, he is also miles ahead of him as a pro. If the two ever sparred, I guarantee Chisora wouldn't land a shot.
Also, are people really feeling sorry for Chisora because he was tossed to the kerb? Purlease. Do we want this sport to stay alive, or what? Boxing needs fights like Haye-Klitschko to keep its head above water. Who gives a shit about Chisora? It's like saying you'd rather Manchester United faced Plymouth Argyle than Chelsea. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention, Chisora is about as unlikeable as any boxer can get.
I think he means that Chisora has a wider range of skills than Haye, who is quite pedestrian and is always looking for one shot. For a smallish HW Haye's output is very low.
A wider range of skills? Have you all gone mad?
Better jab? Haye
Better right hand? Haye
Better left hook? Haye, when he decides to throw it
Better uppercut? Haye
Better body punches? Haye
Better speed? Haye
Better power? Haye
Better strength? Haye
Better defence? Haye
Better wins? Haye
If desperate, you could argue Chisora has a better chin because he gets hit a lot and has therefore had it tested a fair bit already. Then again, Chisora is also at a stage where he's having life and death wars with the likes of Sam Sexton. Let me know when Del Boy fights someone above British class.
Dioufy wrote:"So Klitschko V Chisora is off.... Ha Ha Ha, God must truly be a boxing fan! (As my prayers have been answered) My path is finally clear!
"
As one of David Haye's biggest fans, this is hard to take. I hope the pudendum gets beat by Klit. To take the piss out of Del-Boy is harsh. I think Haye's all wrong for Klit, and Haye will definitely win, but a big part of me hopes that Klit gives Haye a "pizza face."
I'm a big Haye fan too and was pretty horrified by that tweet.
And why do people keep going on about whether Chisora is a nice person or not? Was Jake la Motta a nice person? Riddick Bowe? Bruno? These people are boxers not social workers. Maybe I'm a bit strange but I'm only interested in Chisora as a boxer.
Shit, it's mad what you write when you've had a drink.
Eraserhead wrote:
Seriously? In what way is Chisora a 'more complete' package than a two-weight world champion? Not only was Haye a clearly better amateur boxer than Chisora, he is also miles ahead of him as a pro. If the two ever sparred, I guarantee Chisora wouldn't land a shot.
Also, are people really feeling sorry for Chisora because he was tossed to the kerb? Purlease. Do we want this sport to stay alive, or what? Boxing needs fights like Haye-Klitschko to keep its head above water. Who gives a shit about Chisora? It's like saying you'd rather Manchester United faced Plymouth Argyle than Chelsea. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention, Chisora is about as unlikeable as any boxer can get.
I think he means that Chisora has a wider range of skills than Haye, who is quite pedestrian and is always looking for one shot. For a smallish HW Haye's output is very low.
A wider range of skills? Have you all gone mad?
Better jab? Haye
Better right hand? Haye
Better left hook? Haye, when he decides to throw it
Better uppercut? Haye
Better body punches? Haye
Better speed? Haye
Better power? Haye
Better strength? Haye
Better defence? Haye
Better wins? Haye
If desperate, you could argue Chisora has a better chin because he gets hit a lot and has therefore had it tested a fair bit already. Then again, Chisora is also at a stage where he's having life and death wars with the likes of Sam Sexton. Let me know when Del Boy fights someone above British class.
