What has Haye actually done and is this just spin

[Finn]

Yes Haye has a lot of Hype around him and has not beaten anyone of note at HW yet

But then again neither has Wlad, We are talking about a man who got sparked by Ross Puritty , Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders
and not the invincible super human athlete that you would think some people were describing.

Haye would imo have beaten all of Wlad's previous opponents,
so it's a Big step up in class for BOTH fighters not just for haye.

I agree here - people are talking about wlad as some all time great - who's he beat? and who's he lost too, and how?

Haye's the unified cw champion and beat the biggest hw champ of all time to win his wba title - he's the fastest, most mobile and one of hardest most accurate hitters wlads ever faced.

There's hype but its for a reason - Haye comes to win, not pick up a paycheque. Wlads been dropped by lesser fighters than haye, people say he's improved since then, but haye's a better fighter than they were.

[hurlock]

Yes Haye has a lot of Hype around him and has not beaten anyone of note at HW yet

But then again neither has Wlad, We are talking about a man who got sparked by Ross Puritty , Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders
and not the invincible super human athlete that you would think some people were describing.

Haye would imo have beaten all of Wlad's previous opponents,
so it's a Big step up in class for BOTH fighters not just for haye.

I agree here - people are talking about wlad as some all time great - who's he beat? and who's he lost too, and how?

Haye's the unified cw champion and beat the biggest hw champ of all time to win his wba title - he's the fastest, most mobile and one of hardest most accurate hitters wlads ever faced.

There's hype but its for a reason - Haye comes to win, not pick up a paycheque. Wlads been dropped by lesser fighters than haye, people say he's improved since then, but haye's a better fighter than they were.

they have both been dropped & come back stronger. you dont base haye on losing to thompson or being decked by a super middle do you. haye wants the best cheque he can get :!: & well done to him, he has a plan

[housesecond]

Masterstroke.
Haye beats little brother than earns even more millions against big brother.
Perfect.

[hurlock]

Masterstroke.
Haye beats little brother than earns even more millions against big brother.
Perfect.

you make it sound easy D

what is your perception of wlad if he win's??? does it make haye pooh like the rest??

[Finn]

Yes Haye has a lot of Hype around him and has not beaten anyone of note at HW yet

But then again neither has Wlad, We are talking about a man who got sparked by Ross Puritty , Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders
and not the invincible super human athlete that you would think some people were describing.

Haye would imo have beaten all of Wlad's previous opponents,
so it's a Big step up in class for BOTH fighters not just for haye.

I agree here - people are talking about wlad as some all time great - who's he beat? and who's he lost too, and how?

Haye's the unified cw champion and beat the biggest hw champ of all time to win his wba title - he's the fastest, most mobile and one of hardest most accurate hitters wlads ever faced.

There's hype but its for a reason - Haye comes to win, not pick up a paycheque. Wlads been dropped by lesser fighters than haye, people say he's improved since then, but haye's a better fighter than they were.

they have both been dropped & come back stronger. you dont base haye on losing to thompson or being decked by a super middle do you. haye wants the best cheque he can get :!: & well done to him, he has a plan

Haye goes down all the time, he always gets up, wlad doesnt. I dont base haye on loosing to thompson because it was a stamina issue, thats not there anymore, wlad cant take the type of punishment thompson took from haye.

[housesecond]

Masterstroke.
Haye beats little brother than earns even more millions against big brother.
Perfect.

you make it sound easy D

what is your perception of wlad if he win's??? does it make haye pooh like the rest??

Always thought Haye had the beating of Junior. Senior is a whole different proposition.

[Asterix]

Haye goes down all the time, he always gets up, wlad doesnt. I dont base haye on loosing to thompson because it was a stamina issue, thats not there anymore, wlad cant take the type of punishment thompson took from haye.

Wlad gets up. How else could he have beaten Sam Peter?

[Finn]

Haye goes down all the time, he always gets up, wlad doesnt. I dont base haye on loosing to thompson because it was a stamina issue, thats not there anymore, wlad cant take the type of punishment thompson took from haye.

Wlad gets up. How else could he have beaten Sam Peter?

My bad - rarely gets up.

[Finn]

Wlad gets up. How else could he have beaten Sam Peter?

My bad - rarely gets up.

He rose to his feet against Sanders as well, three times before falling to the fourth KD. And against Brewster. Got put down against Puritty and was stopped on his feet.

Yeah i was pointing out haye gets back up and can still fight, wlad cant once he's down the fights over for him -- with exception of the peters fight which i forgot about to be fair.

[jameswilson]

My bad - rarely gets up.

He rose to his feet against Sanders as well, three times before falling to the fourth KD. And against Brewster. Got put down against Puritty and was stopped on his feet.

Yeah i was pointing out haye gets back up and can still fight, wlad cant once he's down the fights over for him -- with exception of the peters fight which i forgot about to be fair.

He got decked against Williamson too didn't he?

[Finn]

He rose to his feet against Sanders as well, three times before falling to the fourth KD. And against Brewster. Got put down against Puritty and was stopped on his feet.

Yeah i was pointing out haye gets back up and can still fight, wlad cant once he's down the fights over for him -- with exception of the peters fight which i forgot about to be fair.

He got decked against Williamson too didn't he?

Well it sounds like i was wrong - wlads been dropped loads of times probably more than haye by the looks of things. And people are trying to write haye off?