DeGale v Groves - My thoughts

[Wrists]

Afternoon All

See attached my thoughts on some of the 'reaction' since this fight was announced

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/degale ... ever-happy

Any constructive thoughts/criticisms are welcome

Aware that the somewhat 'ranty' nature of this piece will not to be everyone's tastes

Kevin

[Captain Hook]

Wrists, you do a bit of moaning in this yourself pal :)

Overall I agree with a lot of it, though not your prediction. I'm plumping for Groves.

Some good points though, twas an interesting read mate.

[Wrists]

Thanks Hooky

I am a Geordie - we moan by definition!!

[JC]

Interesting article.

Personally I enjoyed the Ringside segment, I know others didn't. However I'm not sure it's true to say the British don't like flashy boxers or even boxers that smack talk. The criticism was more that DeGale is not very good at it and so inadvertently comes off inarticulate and a bit thick (when I'm sure he's not).

Incidentally I could see DeGale following the Naz/Eubank path of playing the big headed "villain" at domestic level but turning into a well supported fighter at European/World class level.

[Captain Hook]

No comment :)

Should get people talking; slightly abrasive, no nonsense, accurate and to the point. I liked it anyway.

Can't argue with DeGale's talent, and I'm not one of these people who wants Groves to win because he's the nicer guy.

I just feel he's a quality operator who's being underestimated.

I reckon he'll stick around and make this tough for Chunky, pulling out a points win. Will be a hell of a scrap.

[JC]

I agree Groves has taken too much stick for the Anderson performance. I hope his team can make sure he learns the right lessons from it.

I'm a fan of both Groves and DeGale and can't wait for the fight.

[Tommy Gunn13]

Im one of them whos never happy....PPV my arse!!! Top fight but if we start paying this PPV bollox for fights that aint worthy Mr W will expect it all the time!! Degale in 6-7 i think(hope im wrong) good article tho

[Wrists]

I just think DeGale is the absolute business (could be wrong)

I can see Groves being hit early and hurt early and I dont think, as good as he is, that chin is his strong suit.

DeGale for me earlyish

[palooka]

I'm to look forward to the bout; they are both very good and young and ambitious. It is a good match up. It should not cost £15 to watch it though.

[Wrists]

Amen to that

Still buying it though!!!

[palooka]

Me too

[Dan Dares]

Me too

and me

[Bard of Boxrec]

These types of fights aren't made very often, it's refreshing to see two unbeaten guys put it on the line.

I'm going for Groves.

[hurlock]

your rant doesnt explain groves's cockiness before the fight was made & his humbling anderson victory.wrists you just get sucked in by all the hype & hysteria. degale is not a banger :!: he's hurtfull & flurrys his punches, but as showed v smith who he was hitting flush pretty often & never had him hurt or unsteady i think degale wins on pts & i aint even sure off it as groves is very capable.

[mbudgen]

Like the article, spot on1

Groves has half the talent of DeGale and will be out of there by the 5th. Look forward to this fight massively.

Deffo going to the 02 for it.

[palooka]

There's more in a fight than talent alone. Though I think on past performance DeGale will win I feel it will be very hard fought. Groves is powerful and has bottle; he wants to win. Booth will have a good plan in mind and it should be a great bout.

[Finn]

I'm to look forward to the bout; they are both very good and young and ambitious. It is a good match up. It should not cost £15 to watch it though.

Yep thats my only gripe im happy to pay £15 for it but how many casual sports fans will buy it. I just fear this fight will not get the exposure or viewers it deserves and pass relatively under the radar.

[Chambers2]

Afternoon All

See attached my thoughts on some of the 'reaction' since this fight was announced

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/degale ... ever-happy

Any constructive thoughts/criticisms are welcome

Aware that the somewhat 'ranty' nature of this piece will not to be everyone's tastes

Kevin

From what I've read on here very few have been moaning about Degale-Groves, certainly not an amount to warrant an article based on the subject IMO

We should be celebrating the fact that the fight's on at such an early stage in boths careers, it's a groundbreaking fight that should be celebrated. It shows that boxing is progressing with the times and is becoming a more fan-friendly sport (less padded records, early competitive fights, less emphasis on the dreaded 'O'), which is surely a better topic for an article rather than highlighting a few dickheads comments about Dave Coldwell winning bids and not staging the fight ..... who gives a fcuk who stages the fight? as long as the fight's on I'm happy

It's a well written piece Kevin, I'm just not a fan of the negative title and the negative parts of the article (Coldwells bid, Booths training schedule for Haye/Groves, Brits don't like Glamour/confidence) when we should be celebrating the fact that the fight's on and this could start a new boxing era

(Kevin, I hope this post is viewed as constructive, as that's how it is intended)

[Chambers2]

Afternoon All

See attached my thoughts on some of the 'reaction' since this fight was announced

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/degale ... ever-happy

Any constructive thoughts/criticisms are welcome

Aware that the somewhat 'ranty' nature of this piece will not to be everyone's tastes

Kevin

From what I've read on here very few have been moaning about Degale-Groves, certainly not an amount to warrant an article based on the subject IMO

We should be celebrating the fact that the fight's on at such an early stage in boths careers, it's a groundbreaking fight that should be celebrated. It shows that boxing is progressing with the times and is becoming a more fan-friendly sport (less padded records, early competitive fights, less emphasis on the dreaded 'O'), which is surely a better topic for an article rather than highlighting a few dickheads comments about Dave Coldwell winning bids and not staging the fight ..... who gives a fcuk who stages the fight? as long as the fight's on I'm happy

It's a well written piece Kevin, I'm just not a fan of the negative title and the negative parts of the article (Coldwells bid, Booths training schedule for Haye/Groves, Brits don't like Glamour/confidence) when we should be celebrating the fact that the fight's on and this could start a new boxing era

(Kevin, I hope this post is viewed as constructive, as that's how it is intended)

In true boxing fan style I've just managed to moan about boxing fans moaning

[Wrists]

Ha Ha Chambers

Thanks fella

All feedback welcome

Kevin

[mkirkhope]

I'm to look forward to the bout; they are both very good and young and ambitious. It is a good match up. It should not cost £15 to watch it though.

Yep thats my only gripe im happy to pay £15 for it but how many casual sports fans will buy it. I just fear this fight will not get the exposure or viewers it deserves and pass relatively under the radar.

For me that's the main issue with fights of less and less importance (in terms of world belts etc) going to PPV - it doesn't grow the sport in this country. Yes - most of us want to see this fight and will end up forking out the 15 quid but casual sports fans wont pay it and even though it may end up being a sound business decision by sky it reduces the exposure our sport has to the casual viewers and therefore prohibits the sport growing.

[johnswan1]

A very moany article.

We are all very happy that this fight has been made.

I agree with what DeGale said on Ringside in that he is improving all the time and is learning rapidly. I'm not sure the same can be said about Groves and that's why I think this will be an easy win for DeGale.

I genuinely did not believe DeGale would amount to much when he first turned pro and looked forward to the day when the late Darren Sutherland could bash him up, but DeGale has surprised everybody with some really impressive performances.

It's a shame that this looks set to end up on PPV as it should be a fight on regular Sky and shown in pubs up and down the country.

[liamlion]

Great fight, credit to Degale and Groves for taking this. British Boxing needs more of these type of fights!

[jameswilson]

These guys may end up having a rematch for the European title or higher, so fair play for taking each other on now as they could have let it simmer for a huge fight later in their careers.