David Daniel Contreras (IS) David Ali

[martyduncan]

The following links are (TWO DIFFERENT PAGES FOR THE SAME FIGHTER)

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer


http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

[Blue]

What is his federal ID# on his license?

[martyduncan]

thank you for responding blue. which license? he is an American citizen.

[claudevsq]

Blue is speaking of a 6-digit number on his pro license, issued by any of the 50 U.S. States, normally...

[martyduncan]

Got it, thanks! Here you go Blue: CA 077811 his proper name is simply David Ali for the last 11 years now.

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[Blue]

Sorry; nothing matches so far, the profiles say its two different boxers.
Daniel Contreras info is in 1999 Fight Fax Record Book on page 296
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

David Contreras Ali info is taken from CSAC “Official” results sheets.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

This can all be settled by sending BoxRec David Ali’s updated Fight Fax record.

Please read the announcement at the top of the forum page.
*** PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING ***

[martyduncan]

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[stac]

if the ss nos are the same then its the same guy ....i would suppose?

[claudevsq]

Yes, but don't we need proof? If Marty Duncan sends David's updated FightFax record to [email protected] I am sure the two records will be merged one day later... if it really is the same boxer...

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[martyduncan]

and, "YES!"( stac), the social security numbers ARE the same, yes, ("they"LOL) are the SAME man! One career, one Man, one RECORD

[John]

i have given you proof in a hand-bag. will you guys update your records so that they will reflect accurately or not? As it stands NEITHER of David Ali's records pre AND post prison are accurate. what is the reason for that? His name is NOT Daniel Contrers or David Daniel Contreras, NOR David Contreras Ali......it is SIMPLY - David Ali.

Hi Marty,
can you email me the proof and I'll look into it

John

[martyduncan]

sure john, whats your email address? is there a way for me to email something to you here, interactively?

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[claudevsq]

Send the proof to: [email protected] with the mention: To John. He'll correct it when time allows... (usually very quickly)

[martyduncan]

AT LAST!. Thank you very, VERY Much Claud

[claudevsq]

(I can't publish his e-mail, but I will make sure he gets it by also forwarding the proof to him.)

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[Blue]

Blue, again, David went to prison in 1998 C.Y.A (California Youth Authority) his career began before being sent away and simply resumed when he returned. When he returned he had a different legal name due to religious beliefs, HOWEVER (as always his SS# stood the same). The only problem that we have here, is that because the two different names (birth and latter legally changed) COUPLED with the gap due to incarceration, we have a fighter who's record is not combined and accurate for that matter because you are simply SPLITTING-UP and DIVIDING the fighter and his career. I don't know how to be more clear then that. They gave Mr. Ali a boxing license before incarceration and after the long lay-off AND name change, they issued him a totally different number.

Blue, please let me know if there is something that isn't clear or has been left out. This is an honest mistake and it should be resolved. Best Regards, -Martin

Martin,
We canot accept hearsay.
In my previous post above, I explained the “Official” profiles say its two different boxers.
Did you click on the link? *** PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING ***

The changes you’ve noticed on the records come from official Association of Boxing
Commission documents.
Because BoxRec wasn’t on line until 2000, we entered Daniel’s record from the 1999
Fight Fax record book which is the official registry for the ABC.

The California State Athletic commission only has 2 bouts for David because he applied
for a new number, signed it David Contreras Ali and did not report his old record.
The media also reported the March 19, 2009 bout as his debut.
Evangelista Stops Ali!
Ringside by Rocco Morales at ringside
http://www.fightnewsextra.com/cc/2009Fi ... layboy.htm

In other action late sub Mario Evangelista (2-3, 1KO) took on debuting David Ali in a four round middleweight contest.
Ali definitely seemed so tense that he was a threat to have an Andrew Golota like breakdown. Ali’s tension turned him
into a very aggressive fighter, but also a fighter who was fighting with his hands down and his chin up. Evangelista, on
the other hand, was calm, cool and collected, and weathered the storm of the first two minutes of Round one from Ali,
before he started fighting back. He fought back effectively landing a couple big left hooks and overhand rights to
unquestionably win the round. Round two belonged to Evangelista with more left hooks and right crosses direct to the
exposed chin of Ali. Ali was not just getting beat but just didn’t appear right to the spectators, the opposing corner,
the referee or even his own corner. After the mildest of persuasion from the referee, Ali’s corner stopped the fight and
even Ali did not argue the stoppage. By TKO victory, Evangelista moves his record to an even (3-3, 2 KOs) while
Ali drops to (0-1).

When BoxRec receives official verification of your claim from one of the
following agencies listed below, we will make the appropriate changes.

California State Athletic Executive Officer; George Dodd (916) 263-2195 [email protected]
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[wouter]

And his Home Town has been Oakland, CA for longer then that. He fought out of Kings Gym in Oakland, CA under Charles King (even when he was taking on bouts in Mexico to build his record) -its great to finally here from you guys i know you guys are extremely busy and the work shows on the site! thanks again for all your help.

I'd find it strange for an Oakland-based fighter to be 'taking on bouts in Mexico to build his record.' I'm sure you are correct that Ali had boxing experience before his incarceration, I do think however that he didn't fight beyond amateur level and that you are confusing these fights with those of a (more or less) similarly named professional Mexican bantamweight.

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