Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Panzerfaust]

Another thriller was Tony against Robin Blake..... from the 7th and out it cant be described as anything other than glorious savagery

I had a look at Blakes recor and it seemed to go downhill after he beat Tony..Did that fight take something out of him(Blake)?

[kikibalt]

Another thriller was Tony against Robin Blake..... from the 7th and out it cant be described as anything other than glorious savagery

I had a look at Blakes recor and it seemed to go downhill after he beat Tony..Did that fight take something out of him(Blake)?

Ram, I think Tony ruin Blake. that fight sure as hell took more out off Blake then it did Tony.

[CNorkusJr]

Rick, I saw a photo on the internet of you and Sugar Ray Robinson clowning about, it doesn't get any better then this working out in the same gym as the Sugarman, what do you remember about it Rick...

The Best of the Best . . .

Cholo, the photo was taken at the Main Street Gym during the summer of 1969, I was 17.
A few days earlier, I'd skipped to school to train downtown and walked into the gym before the afternoon crowd had arrived.
I stepped onto the gym floor and I saw the great Robinson banging a heavy bag.
I quickly put on my workout gear and without warming up went right to the bag hanging next to the one Sugar Ray was pounding.
I began working on the bag and between rounds we nodded at each other as we caught our breath.
As he finished the next round, he finished by almost folding the heavy bag in half with a ripping left hook.
When the bell rang, I asked him, "Is that the hook you flattened Fullmer with?"
Robinson laughed, "Your too young to remember that." I told him I'd seen it.
I also said, "I wish I could throw a hook like that."
The man rated by most as the best prizefighter in history took a few moments to watch me throw my hook and made a few suggestions.
One of the greatest moments in my life!

That is one great experience Rick. Thank God there was a photo taken to enjoy the moment with others. Great stuff.

[CNorkusJr]

George Parnassus, Enrique Bolanos and Lou Costello

Frank, you have a great collection of photo's, thanks for sharing..

Lou Costello was a BIG boxing fan. Hailing from Passaic. New Jersey- The Lou Costello Boxing Club and Gym still exists to this day. It trains many New Jersey Silver Glovers (New Jersey's equivilant to Golden Gloves elsewhere).
I am not familiar with the whole story on how it got its start and all, but I do see the guys who are associated with its business now at various New Jersey functions.
Next time I'm there I will get the story on its beginnings and why Lou Costello got it going and pass it along.

[kikibalt]

Tommy Bain

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Tommy Bain & Lou Costello

[THEHAMMER321]

How have all you men of leisure ''kept men'' been doing,I been on a little gambling spree playing poker mostly, might end up going to California early in June and staying until the end of the month for the cbhof luncheon.

[Randyman]

George Parnassus, Enrique Bolanos and Lou Costello

Frank, you have a great collection of photo's, thanks for sharing..

Lou Costello was a BIG boxing fan. Hailing from Passaic. New Jersey- The Lou Costello Boxing Club and Gym still exists to this day. It trains many New Jersey Silver Glovers (New Jersey's equivilant to Golden Gloves elsewhere).
I am not familiar with the whole story on how it got its start and all, but I do see the guys who are associated with its business now at various New Jersey functions.
Next time I'm there I will get the story on its beginnings and why Lou Costello got it going and pass it along.

Interesting. I knew Lou Costello was a boxing fan but never knew about the gym, thanks fro sharing that. In the photo with Costello and Tommy Bain, it looks like Costello knows a little about boxing. Did he ever fight? Amateur perhaps?

[kikibalt]

How have all you men of leisure ''kept men'' been doing,I been on a little gambling spree playing poker mostly, might end up going to California early in June and staying until the end of the month for the cbhof luncheon.

I been busy with the CBHOF bios, Paul.

[Randyman]

Frank, thanks for posting all those great photos of Enrique Bolanos. My mother remembers Enrique Bolanos. She also remembers Art Aragon and Lauro Salas. Back in those days my dad would take my mother with him to the fights. According to her, the women really went for Bolanos. They considered him good looking.

I had a little time to kill after lunch so I watched Enrique Bolanos and Ike Williams. Great, great fight. It had to be tough for the judges, this one was close. Beautiful fighters. I had a few guys with me that had never heard of either fighter. They couldn't help but be impressed. What a great era!

[Cholo]

Tommy Bain

Tommy Bain won the California Featherweight Title defeating Kenny Davis in six, August 11 1956.
Bain hailed from Indianapolis, Frank do you remember much about Tommy Bain?..

[CNorkusJr]

Frank, you have a great collection of photo's, thanks for sharing..

Lou Costello was a BIG boxing fan. Hailing from Passaic. New Jersey- The Lou Costello Boxing Club and Gym still exists to this day. It trains many New Jersey Silver Glovers (New Jersey's equivilant to Golden Gloves elsewhere).
I am not familiar with the whole story on how it got its start and all, but I do see the guys who are associated with its business now at various New Jersey functions.
Next time I'm there I will get the story on its beginnings and why Lou Costello got it going and pass it along.

Interesting. I knew Lou Costello was a boxing fan but never knew about the gym, thanks fro sharing that. In the photo with Costello and Tommy Bain, it looks like Costello knows a little about boxing. Did he ever fight? Amateur perhaps?

I am not sure Randy. I knew about the gym for years now and I will talk to the right people in getting the answers.

[CNorkusJr]

Randy here is an article that has a little info on the gym about 10 years ago. I'll find out its origins though. Its in Patterson, not Passaic as previously stated.

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Harrison/DannyS010205.htm

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Tommy Bain

Tommy Bain won the California Featherweight Title defeating Kenny Davis in six, August 11 1956.
Bain hailed from Indianapolis, Frank do you remember much about Tommy Bain?..

Paul, I remember Tommy Bain really good, seen most of his SoCal fights. Of the top of my head the guys I remember him fighting were Alfredo Escobar, Vince Delgado, Pajarito Moreno, and Jose Luis Cotero. In the Moreno fight in which he got stopped in the third round, he was fighting the latest hot shot from Mexico. Don't remember what round it was, but Moreno threw one of his wild left hooks and Bain slipped the punch and Moreno hit referee Frankie Van with it, knocking him down, the sold out Hollywood legion crowd went wild.

Tommy Bain was a good scrapper , always gave 110% of himself....

[kikibalt]

Will be gone most of the day, have a funeral to go too....

[Cholo]

Tommy Bain

Tommy Bain won the California Featherweight Title defeating Kenny Davis in six, August 11 1956.
Bain hailed from Indianapolis, Frank do you remember much about Tommy Bain?..

Paul, I remember Tommy Bain really good, seen most of his SoCal fights. Of the top of my head the guys I remember him fighting were Alfredo Escobar, Vince Delgado, Pajarito Moreno, and Jose Luis Cotero. In the Moreno in which he got stopped in the third round, he was fighting the latest hot shot from Mexico. Don't remember what round it was, but Moreno threw one of his wild left hooks and Bain slipped the punch and Moreno hit referee Frankie Van with it, knocking him down, the sold out Hollywood legion crowd went wild.

Tommy Bain was a good scrapper , always gave 110% of himself....

Frank, your a walking encyclopedia on boxing

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Frank, your a walking encyclopedia on boxing

The thing is, Paul, that, I don't remember much, not the way Rick does, if I only had the memory Rick has....

[Cholo]

Frank, your a walking encyclopedia on boxing

The thing is, Paul, that, I don't remember much, not the way Rick does, if I only had the memory Rick has....

Frank, you remember the old-timers, that's good enough for me, i'd never seen any footage of Enrique Bolanos before what
a great boxer, very impressed with him. The like's of Bolanos and Aragon would have been World champions today, there were more fighter's in there era, and like they say the more competition the better the fighter....

[CNorkusJr]

Lou Costello was a BIG boxing fan. Hailing from Passaic. New Jersey- The Lou Costello Boxing Club and Gym still exists to this day. It trains many New Jersey Silver Glovers (New Jersey's equivilant to Golden Gloves elsewhere).
I am not familiar with the whole story on how it got its start and all, but I do see the guys who are associated with its business now at various New Jersey functions.
Next time I'm there I will get the story on its beginnings and why Lou Costello got it going and pass it along.

Interesting. I knew Lou Costello was a boxing fan but never knew about the gym, thanks fro sharing that. In the photo with Costello and Tommy Bain, it looks like Costello knows a little about boxing. Did he ever fight? Amateur perhaps?

I am not sure Randy. I knew about the gym for years now and I will talk to the right people in getting the answers.

I want to correct- New Jersey holds Diamond Gloves Tournament-not Silver Gloves Tournament as i stated before. I stand corrected.

I received the following email from Henry Hascup-Pres of New Jersey Boxing HOF.

From Henry Hascup :
They said that Lou Costello, who's real name was Louis Francis Cristillo, fought as an amateur, some sources say that he had 11 amateur bouts.. In his book, he stated that he fought 1 bout as a Pro fighting under the name of Lou King, while fighting Paddy Malone. I looked through my records and sure enough Lou King lost to Paddy Malone on November 10, 1925 in Paterson. The papers at that time stated that Lou King was actually Max Kaufman Jr. He won the 1st round But lost the other 3. Paul Cavaliere fought the main event, beating Tom Roper in 8 rounds.

Lou Costello always supported boxing, as he would appear and perform many times at the Diamond Glove Tournament in Paterson. He was also a manager of Johnny Juliano who was a top 10 contender in the bantamweight division from September 1940 to April 1941.

He was an excellent athlete. He also played baseball and basketball. A group of neighborhood kids made up "The Armory 5, basketball team and they claim that Lou won the "Foul Shot Championship" of the State.

The Costello Club in Paterson opened up in 1971, under the name of Lou Costello Jr. Club, then in 1973, they renamed it the Lou Costello Club.

[THEHAMMER321]

Tired of people with no manners or class, it seems to me every time I go to a place of business [ a gas station,grocery store etc] I run into people working in these places who greet the customer as they make a purchase with ''what do you need'' instead of ''how can I help you'' , is it my imagination or has it become fashionable to be ignorant ? .

[CNorkusJr]

Tired of people with no manners or class, it seems to me every time I go to a place of business [ a gas station,grocery store etc] I run into people working in these places who greet the customer as they make a purchase with ''what do you need'' instead of ''how can I help you'' , is it my imagination or has it become fashionable to be ignorant ? .

Have a bad day at the tables,Paul ?

[Randyman]

Frank, your a walking encyclopedia on boxing

The thing is, Paul, that, I don't remember much, not the way Rick does, if I only had the memory Rick has....

Frank, your memory has kept us informed and entertained since the beginning of this thread. You're right though, Rick does have an excellent memory and we are all lucky that both of you share your memories with us.

[Randyman]

Interesting. I knew Lou Costello was a boxing fan but never knew about the gym, thanks fro sharing that. In the photo with Costello and Tommy Bain, it looks like Costello knows a little about boxing. Did he ever fight? Amateur perhaps?

I am not sure Randy. I knew about the gym for years now and I will talk to the right people in getting the answers.

I want to correct- New Jersey holds Diamond Gloves Tournament-not Silver Gloves Tournament as i stated before. I stand corrected.

I received the following email from Henry Hascup-Pres of New Jersey Boxing HOF.

From Henry Hascup :
They said that Lou Costello, who's real name was Louis Francis Cristillo, fought as an amateur, some sources say that he had 11 amateur bouts.. In his book, he stated that he fought 1 bout as a Pro fighting under the name of Lou King, while fighting Paddy Malone. I looked through my records and sure enough Lou King lost to Paddy Malone on November 10, 1925 in Paterson. The papers at that time stated that Lou King was actually Max Kaufman Jr. He won the 1st round But lost the other 3. Paul Cavaliere fought the main event, beating Tom Roper in 8 rounds.

Lou Costello always supported boxing, as he would appear and perform many times at the Diamond Glove Tournament in Paterson. He was also a manager of Johnny Juliano who was a top 10 contender in the bantamweight division from September 1940 to April 1941.

He was an excellent athlete. He also played baseball and basketball. A group of neighborhood kids made up "The Armory 5, basketball team and they claim that Lou won the "Foul Shot Championship" of the State.

The Costello Club in Paterson opened up in 1971, under the name of Lou Costello Jr. Club, then in 1973, they renamed it the Lou Costello Club.

Charlie, thanks for the interesting info. I figured he was a fighter at some level. I'm going to look for his books. There are probably several books, do you know what the title is.

Costello played a cowardly buffoon in the movies but I heard he was anything but. He was a savvy business man, as understand it, he didn't take any crap.

Thanks

[raylawpc]

No I don't. I don't see Enrique anymore. Ruby I see about once or twice a year, usually at some boxing function, like the California Boxing Hall Of Fame luncheons.

In the mid-'60's, Enrique helped me train Frankie and Tony when the boys were young kids.

She was at last year's CBHOF banquet when Enrique was inducted, wasn't she?

BTW, I've made the transition to Mac. Boy, what a difference! You guys gotta make the switch!

She was.

Expensive??

You know, not too bad actually. I paid about $1500 for a MacBook Pro 13 inch lap top. Its a dream to use. It's easy to install stuff. I have a pretty elaborate printer/copier that was still under lease when I retired, so I use it at home in the basement. When I put it on my pc the first time, it took about 15 or 20 minutes. When I linked my Mac to it, it took about a minute. I kid you not!

I moved all the stuff over from my pc to my mac, and it was easy. I have a lot of Jeffries stuff on pc, and it moved it all over with no problem.

Also, you can run windows software on a Mac using an application called "Bootcamp."

I don't have high speed internet access at home, and I have to use an AT&T air card. On my pc, if the aircard signal got below four bars, it wouldn't work. I've been able to get on the internet at one bar with the Mac.

And, the topper today. . . I've been working on a big drafting project for the past two days. I thought I'd screwed up and lost half the document. When I rebooted, I discovered that my Mac had saved my document. It did it intuitively; I didn't have to do anything or go through a bunch of things to get it back. I simply started up my computer, and there it was.

I really like this Mac so far.

[kikibalt]

Tired of people with no manners or class, it seems to me every time I go to a place of business [ a gas station,grocery store etc] I run into people working in these places who greet the customer as they make a purchase with ''what do you need'' instead of ''how can I help you'' , is it my imagination or has it become fashionable to be ignorant ? .

Have a bad day at the tables,Paul ?