Who could stop Lamotta?
Who could stop Lamotta?
Not to nitpick but a serious discussion.
Does anyone believe there is a fighter or fighters that could knock Lamotta out?
If so who?
Does anyone believe there is a fighter or fighters that could knock Lamotta out?
If so who?
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Goodnight, Irene
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
A prime Pavlik could really punch.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Julian Jackson possesed one punch power, would that be enough?
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
At Middle I'd probably say Fitzsimmons has the best chance.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Mariv Hagler. Maybe even Tommy Hearns.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Anyone willing to pay him enough to do so.
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SUGARRAYSMELEE
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Sugar Ray Robinson. I think he KO's him if the fight wasn't stopped.
Stanley Ketchel, apparently, he hit like a devil.
Also, Charley Burley, he was a vicious puncher.
Stanley Ketchel, apparently, he hit like a devil.
Also, Charley Burley, he was a vicious puncher.
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dr_devious
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
I dont think any MW could ko LaMotta, I think your looking at LH at least so probably Bob Foster, Sam Langford
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dempseyfire
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Let's remember LaMotta really was KO'd at light HW by Danny Nardico. Nardico hit like a frikkin' mule's kick, but if he could pull the trick I see the great 175 lb punchers (Charles, Moore, Langford, Johnson, Foster) being able to do it too.
At middle, different story. Probably Fitz, but he's the only guy I'd back with any confidence.
At middle, different story. Probably Fitz, but he's the only guy I'd back with any confidence.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Stanley Ketchel in a 20 rounder. Ketchel takes him out.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
I know that the old-timers will kill me for saying this, but Jake was heavier that the other guy in 14 of his 19 losses. In one of the Robinson losses he was over a stone heavier. He also has a KO ratio of less that 50%.
Let the abuse commence!
Let the abuse commence!
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Ambling Alp
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Well, if it is a fact that he was bigger than his opponent for 14 of his 19 losses, you should not be abused for saying it. :P It may be a little deceiving though; for starters 5 of those losses were to Robinson.
As for his ko% being below, 50%, well that is a fact as well. Though most middleweights had a lower than a 50% ko% prior to the 1970s. Referees did not stop fights nearly as easily as they do now. For example, Greb, Flowers, Mike Gibbons,Papke,Steele,Walker,Olson,Fullmer,Giardello,Tiger, and Benvenuti all had ko%'s lower than 50%.
They also usually did not pad their winning %'s and ko%'s at the beginning of their careers against weak competition either. LaMotta had only 3 ko's in his first 32 fights. In his first 3 years as a pro, he had 12 fights against a top 10 contender.
LaMotta was not a brutal puncher though he certainly was not featherfisted. Really, he won a lot decisions because of sheer tenacity and occasionally he did stop some quality opponents.
As for his ko% being below, 50%, well that is a fact as well. Though most middleweights had a lower than a 50% ko% prior to the 1970s. Referees did not stop fights nearly as easily as they do now. For example, Greb, Flowers, Mike Gibbons,Papke,Steele,Walker,Olson,Fullmer,Giardello,Tiger, and Benvenuti all had ko%'s lower than 50%.
They also usually did not pad their winning %'s and ko%'s at the beginning of their careers against weak competition either. LaMotta had only 3 ko's in his first 32 fights. In his first 3 years as a pro, he had 12 fights against a top 10 contender.
LaMotta was not a brutal puncher though he certainly was not featherfisted. Really, he won a lot decisions because of sheer tenacity and occasionally he did stop some quality opponents.
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Goodnight, Irene
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Fish not biting today? :PGoodnight, Irene wrote:A prime Pavlik could really punch.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Fish not biting today? :PGoodnight, Irene wrote:A prime Pavlik could really punch.
Though to be realistic, Pavlik isn't in LaMotta's class. NO WAY!
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Pavlik as the bait was too obvious.
I'd give Valdez a chance. He floored Monzon and legitimately stopped Briscoe. They are two more Middleweights with granite chins.
I'd give Valdez a chance. He floored Monzon and legitimately stopped Briscoe. They are two more Middleweights with granite chins.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
abuse for what, facts! LaMotta by all accounts was a big mw, a mw cum l-hw really and his best successes, though great fighters, were mostly WWs cum MWs... so the proper big middles and l-hws could have - seemed like a lot of the top mws mid- late 40s were former WW.gb wrote:I know that the old-timers will kill me for saying this, but Jake was heavier that the other guy in 14 of his 19 losses. In one of the Robinson losses he was over a stone heavier. He also has a KO ratio of less that 50%.
Let the abuse commence!
late 30s early 40s were very much proper mws leading into Zales reign.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Tommy Hearns... like what he did against Duran... 
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SUGARRAYSMELEE
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Also, maybe Carlos Monzon.
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IRLangmaid25
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Sergio Martinez anyone? He has got the footwork and handspeed to give LaMotta an awful lot of problems.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
No way. Sergio has scored some impressive knockouts, but he is not really a puncher, and LaMotta is way more durable than anyone he has stopped.IRLangmaid25 wrote:Sergio Martinez anyone? He has got the footwork and handspeed to give LaMotta an awful lot of problems.
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dajuggernaut
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Sergio stopping LaMotta.crusader wrote:No way. Sergio has scored some impressive knockouts, but he is not really a puncher, and LaMotta is way more durable than anyone he has stopped.IRLangmaid25 wrote:Sergio Martinez anyone? He has got the footwork and handspeed to give LaMotta an awful lot of problems.
Ever since he knocked out P.W. he has gotten this rep on this forum for being this murderous puncher.
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Goodnight, Irene
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Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Ruby Bob is easily the best man for the job and, IMO, he has more than enough punch to get it done.
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
Nope, no one.IRLangmaid25 wrote:Sergio Martinez anyone?
Re: Who could stop Lamotta?
I could see a peak Roy Jones Jr. at Middleweight possibly stopping Lamotta on cuts or with a great bodyshot.
Julian Jackson certainly had the power to stop anybody, but it usually took him a while to get in his perfect shot and I'm not sure Lamotta would ever give him the chance to breathe enough to throw it.
Julian Jackson certainly had the power to stop anybody, but it usually took him a while to get in his perfect shot and I'm not sure Lamotta would ever give him the chance to breathe enough to throw it.