Vic to fight for world title in 4th weight div

[dan h]

Vic D v Arce 2 for the WBO superbantamweight title

http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-sport ... 6054087147

[thunderfromdownunder]

third. IBO dosent count.
hope it comes off. lol at the article "danny green won titles in 3 weights"

[Brute]

Look at some of the frauds that hold WBA titles now.

[bigred83]

Look at some of the frauds that hold WBA titles now.

there is about 200 of them isnt there?? interim, regular, unified, super. every kid gets a prize in the wba

[thunderfromdownunder]

Look at some of the frauds that hold WBA titles now.

not gonna deny that, i was looking at their ratings the other vday and most divisions had multiple champs.
but still, the IBO isnt recognized as a geniune world title by 99% of boxing fans

[Brute]

Look at some of the frauds that hold WBA titles now.

not gonna deny that, i was looking at their ratings the other vday and most divisions had multiple champs.
but still, the IBO isnt recognized as a geniune world title by 99% of boxing fans

Wlad Klitschko is not too proud to count the IBO Heavyweight Championship as one of his titles.

[thunderfromdownunder]

I would bet the IBO pretty much gave him the belt to get some credibilty. dont forget he is also the IBF &WBO champ.
back to the thread, the first fight was great and i bet a second would be to, good styles match up. Vic fights a bit like a mexican

[Brute]

I would bet the IBO pretty much gave him the belt to get some credibilty. dont forget he is also the IBF &WBO champ.
back to the thread, the first fight was great and i bet a second would be to, good styles match up. Vic fights a bit like a mexican

He fights better than most Mexicans.

Oh, and Lennox Lewis held the IBO title as well. Maybe the boxers have a higher opinion of it than the fans.

[thunderfromdownunder]

I would bet the IBO pretty much gave him the belt to get some credibilty. dont forget he is also the IBF &WBO champ.
back to the thread, the first fight was great and i bet a second would be to, good styles match up. Vic fights a bit like a mexican

He fights better than most Mexicans.

Oh, and Lennox Lewis held the IBO title as well. Maybe the boxers have a higher opinion of it than the fans.

Lennox Lewis was the undisputed Heavyweight champion of the world, a title which he won by unifying the WBC/IBF titles (i think, may have been the WBA) the fact that he held the lightly regarded IBO title means next to nothing

[bigred83]

I would bet the IBO pretty much gave him the belt to get some credibilty. dont forget he is also the IBF &WBO champ.
back to the thread, the first fight was great and i bet a second would be to, good styles match up. Vic fights a bit like a mexican

He fights better than most Mexicans.

Oh, and Lennox Lewis held the IBO title as well. Maybe the boxers have a higher opinion of it than the fans.

must do, a few good names have held it.
vic x4, nonito, rafa marquez, barrera, hamed, juan diaz, roger mayweather, lester ellis, ricky hatton, pacquaio, floyd mayweather, sergio martinez, geale, mundine, roy jones, tarver, hopkins, pascal, chad dawson, toney adamek, green, lewis, klitschko. just to name a few, and ill bet if you told all the others who have held it they werent world champs they would beg to differ. i know its not as credible as the others in ways, but it has its place.

[Giancarlo]

I would bet the IBO pretty much gave him the belt to get some credibilty. dont forget he is also the IBF &WBO champ.
back to the thread, the first fight was great and i bet a second would be to, good styles match up. Vic fights a bit like a mexican

He fights better than most Mexicans.

Oh, and Lennox Lewis held the IBO title as well. Maybe the boxers have a higher opinion of it than the fans.

Roy Jones Jnr held the WBF title when he was at his peak. That must mean Joe Bugner really was heavyweight champion of the World just like he told me when he had that greeting job at Surfers.

And there was me thinking Big Joe was talking bollox; I must track him down an apologise.

[Brute]

I would bet the IBO pretty much gave him the belt to get some credibilty. dont forget he is also the IBF &WBO champ.
back to the thread, the first fight was great and i bet a second would be to, good styles match up. Vic fights a bit like a mexican

He fights better than most Mexicans.

Oh, and Lennox Lewis held the IBO title as well. Maybe the boxers have a higher opinion of it than the fans.

Roy Jones Jnr held the WBF title when he was at his peak. That must mean Joe Bugner really was heavyweight champion of the World just like he told me when he had that greeting job at Surfers.

And there was me thinking Big Joe was talking bollox; I must track him down an apologise.

Roy held the Federation Belt. Joe held the Foundation Belt.

[Hounddawg]

Look at some of the frauds that hold WBA titles now.

not gonna deny that, i was looking at their ratings the other vday and most divisions had multiple champs.
but still, the IBO isnt recognized as a geniune world title by 99% of boxing fans

So Manny Pac never won the title at LT welter , so he's not actually a world champ in all those divisions.

I think 99% of the fans realize a belt means sweet F/all, it's the champion that makes the belt these days, not the other way around.

It's fair to say that Vic was easily top 3 at Bantam, i have no problem saying that Vic won a title at the weight.Nor do i have a problem with Manny or Hatton or Wladimir or Pascal claiming that they were and are champions in there division for winning that belt.

[Hounddawg]

He fights better than most Mexicans.

Oh, and Lennox Lewis held the IBO title as well. Maybe the boxers have a higher opinion of it than the fans.

Roy Jones Jnr held the WBF title when he was at his peak. That must mean Joe Bugner really was heavyweight champion of the World just like he told me when he had that greeting job at Surfers.

And there was me thinking Big Joe was talking bollox; I must track him down an apologise.

Roy held the Federation Belt. Joe held the Foundation Belt.

Lets not get carried away, the WBF Foundation and federation is a regional belt.

The IBO i gave no credit to for years, but as Red mentioned when you have champions happy to fight for and defend a belt, and they are regarded as the best or at least disputed in there division, it's hard to deny it's credability,The IBO have worked really hard to earn respect and elevate itself beyond a regional status, it's current list of champions speaks for itself.

The WBO in the 90's was actually regarded in the same light as the IBO, so i wouldn't disregard it yet.

Joe Bugner was tough, but no world champion.

I guess i'm part of the 1 percentile then, because the majority of the IBO champs have just as much credability as the other so called 4 busted orgs.

Theres no formula to boxing anymore, you can have your say as to what you think is a world title and what isn't, but the fact of the matter remains, it will always be the champion that makes that belt.

[thunderfromdownunder]

Look at some of the frauds that hold WBA titles now.

not gonna deny that, i was looking at their ratings the other vday and most divisions had multiple champs.
but still, the IBO isnt recognized as a geniune world title by 99% of boxing fans

So Manny Pac never won the title at LT welter , so he's not actually a world champ in all those divisions.

I think 99% of the fans realize a belt means sweet F/all, it's the champion that makes the belt these days, not the other way around.

It's fair to say that Vic was easily top 3 at Bantam, i have no problem saying that Vic won a title at the weight.Nor do i have a problem with Manny or Hatton or Wladimir or Pascal claiming that they were and are champions in there division for winning that belt.

manny won the lineal/undisputed championship at light welter. The ibo belt meant nothing

[thunderfromdownunder]

Roy Jones Jnr held the WBF title when he was at his peak. That must mean Joe Bugner really was heavyweight champion of the World just like he told me when he had that greeting job at Surfers.

And there was me thinking Big Joe was talking bollox; I must track him down an apologise.

Roy held the Federation Belt. Joe held the Foundation Belt.

Lets not get carried away, the WBF Foundation and federation is a regional belt.

The IBO i gave no credit to for years, but as Red mentioned when you have champions happy to fight for and defend a belt, and they are regarded as the best or at least disputed in there division, it's hard to deny it's credability,The IBO have worked really hard to earn respect and elevate itself beyond a regional status, it's current list of champions speaks for itself.

The WBO in the 90's was actually regarded in the same light as the IBO, so i wouldn't disregard it yet.

Joe Bugner was tough, but no world champion.

I guess i'm part of the 1 percentile then, because the majority of the IBO champs have just as much credability as the other so called 4 busted orgs.

Theres no formula to boxing anymore, you can have your say as to what you think is a world title and what isn't, but the fact of the matter remains, it will always be the champion that makes that belt.

i think you will find a lot of the time the ibo threw their vacant titles into big name fights. Thats why some good fighters have had it.

[amwsnw]

IBO, WBA,WBC, ABC, EFG...it really means nothing to me. A world title and the champion holding it nowadays can only be judged by the opponent he beats and the calibre of people he defends it against. I reckon the IBO has asmuch credibility as any other governing body. If we are going to call WBA/WBC/IBF title holders champions, why not call IBO champs champions....GO GREENY!! I am sure we have had this argument before.

[crusader]

A few months back I typed out a list comprising every fighter that held a WBA, WBC, IBF, or IBO world title. I then looked at several independent ranking (The Ring, Boxing Monthly, Fightnews, my own, etc) and found that the WBA, WBC, and IBF champs tended to place significantly higher than the IBO champs. Several very good fighters have held IBO belts, but the overall quality of IBO champs is lower vis-a-vis the overall quality of WBA,WBC, and IBF champs. More importantly, the majority of boxing fans don't regard the IBO title as a major title, and that is pertinent when a fighter's accomplishments are being analyzed.

[Marlin]

Which of the 18 WBA "Champions" per weight division did you use in your study? :P

[crusader]

Which of the 18 WBA "Champions" per weight division did you use in your study? :P

All of them

[thunderfromdownunder]

the WBO and IBF appear to be the most scensible out of the lot. the WBC have all thier silver and diamond rubbish and the WBA barley ahve a division with only a single titlist.
but i still dont rate the IBO, to me its the same as the WBU, WBF, IBA, its rubbish thats used to sell fights as "title fights" to people who dont know better.

[Marlin]

You have have to keep in mind that daz would say the same about the WBO, it was lumped in with the others you mentioned not too long ago...

Just saying that these things do evolve...

[adamheight]

third. IBO dosent count.
hope it comes off. lol at the article "danny green won titles in 3 weights"

course it counts.

the ibo probably means more than wbc, wba these days. at least they have one world champ per division, unlike the wba who have 3 world champions in 2 seperate weight divisions. all this silver, diamond, champ in recess BS it rendering them insignificant.

[thunderfromdownunder]

You have have to keep in mind that daz would say the same about the WBO, it was lumped in with the others you mentioned not too long ago...

Just saying that these things do evolve...

none of them are good really. Main difference is you will get credited as being a undisputed champ for unifying two or three of the big ones but you sure as shit wont for unifying the WBF & IBO. If we are gonna start calling the ibo a proper title why not all the other bogus ones? Is anthony mundine a two weight world champ because he had the ibo mw title? Of course he isnt. Same as Danny green is only a one time world champ

[Brute]

Tell Manny Pacquaio he achieved nothing by beating Ricky Hatton for the IBO Light Welterweight title. It was the only belt on the table that night.