Nooooooooooo! Warren: Hatton vs Maussa?

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:07

This from Fightnews this morning:

Promoter allegedly said today that a unification fight between IBF 140lb champ Ricky Hatton and WBA champ Carlos Maussa is "an option." Warren acknowledged a rematch clause between Maussa and dethroned champ Vivian Harris, but asked "Who is going to want to watch that rubbish again and which TV company is going to pay for it?" Warren also lashed out at Harris, whom he says rejected a $750,000 offer to fight Hatton. "Harris should have taken the money because now he will have to fight for peanuts," said Warren. "But I knew he was an idiot because after he turned down the fight with Hatton he took on Oktay Urkal for a fraction of the money we were offering him. I've never seen a champion look so bad in the ring. He was unfit and badly out of shape, I don't know what his trainer Manny Steward had been doing with him in the gym."

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:28

Hesketh wrote:This from Fightnews this morning:
Promoter allegedly allegedly said today that a unification fight between IBF 140lb champ Ricky Hatton and WBA champ Carlos Maussa is "an option." Warren acknowledged a rematch clause between Maussa and dethroned champ Vivian Harris, but asked "Who is going to want to watch that rubbish again and which TV company is going to pay for it?" Warren also lashed out at Harris, whom he says rejected a $750,000 offer to fight Hatton. "Harris should have taken the money because now he will have to fight for peanuts," said Warren. "But I knew he was an idiot because after he turned down the fight with Hatton he took on Oktay Urkal for a fraction of the money we were offering him. I've never seen a champion look so bad in the ring. He was unfit and badly out of shape, I don't know what his trainer Manny Steward had been doing with him in the gym."

If Hatton wants to unify he has to win the titles. If he's looking for an 'easy' first fight then this guy is one of the most agricultural 'world' champions I have ever seen

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:32

Coconut wrote:If Hatton wants to unify he has to win the titles. If he's looking for an 'easy' first fight then this guy is one of the most agricultural 'world' champions I have ever seen

But that's the problem isn't it, we all saw how awful Maussa was and what a step backwards that would be for Ricky. Hatton is entitled to an easier fight after Tszyu, but not that easy! Personally I don't want to see Hatton unify with the likes of a crazy Colombian, I just want to see Ricky in good competitve fights. Unifications only lead to dis-unification shortly thereafter when the next daft mandatory is produced, unifications purely for the sake of unification aren't worth the bother.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:38

There are only 3 competative fights for HAtton IMO, Witter (no chance), Mayweather or Cotto with the latter being contracted to different TV companies. At least if Hatton unifies he has more bargaining power.

Incidentaly, does HAtton still hold the WBU? If so does he have to, at some point, face a mandatory ?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:40

I can see what your saying and i agree that Maussa isn't going to be that great a test for Hatton, most probaly KO win in the first 4 rounds.

But having 2 titles would give Hatton greater power in negotiations with the other contenders, and if you want to unify the division then you can only beat who has the title.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:43

a re-match with tszyu would also be competative but its looking unlikely in light of recent claims of bruiing to his brain.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:47

Wales wrote:There are only 3 competative fights for HAtton IMO, Witter (no chance), Mayweather or Cotto with the latter being contracted to different TV companies. At least if Hatton unifies he has more bargaining power.

Incidentaly, does HAtton still hold the WBU? If so does he have to, at some point, face a mandatory ?

Have you seen the IBF top 10? Makes the WBU rankings look like a proper murderers row...

And the WBU list his as their champ. To be fair, I can see them being more likely to put Hatton's opponents in their rankings than Hatton being keen to hang onto the WBU belt...

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 03:51

Wales wrote:There are only 3 competative fights for HAtton IMO, Witter (no chance), Mayweather or Cotto with the latter being contracted to different TV companies. At least if Hatton unifies he has more bargaining power.

Incidentaly, does HAtton still hold the WBU? If so does he have to, at some point, face a mandatory ?

There are no mandatories with the WBU. Not sure if Hatton still has that belt or not.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:01

Wales wrote:There are only 3 competative fights for HAtton IMO, Witter (no chance), Mayweather or Cotto with the latter being contracted to different TV companies. At least if Hatton unifies he has more bargaining power.

theres not much else in the way of money fights for Hatton apart from those 3, maybe another competitive fight would be Souleymane M'baye , but i think he's a member of the who needs him club, not a big enough name.

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:01

yes yes yes.....i'd rather have ricky take this fight in november then have the big mayweather fight next summer at the city of manchester stadium in front of 60,000...

ricky said last night on 5live that he IS defo fighting in november..so take the maussa fight,he'll come for the payday and ricky will take his belt off him..job done

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:05

pasty_spud wrote:yes yes yes.....i'd rather have ricky take this fight in november then have the big mayweather fight next summer at the city of manchester stadium in front of 60,000...

ricky said last night on 5live that he IS defo fighting in november..so take the maussa fight,he'll come for the payday and ricky will take his belt off him..job done

I agree. A dream for Hatton IMO. Get him over, bit of a celebratory atmosphere, carry Maussa for a few rounds then take him out. I couldn't blame him for one second if he took this fight - then went for a bigger fish.

Maussa was absolutely dreadful - but had a good chin. And didn't he take Cotto nine rounds?

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:45

I can't believe i am saying it but a fight with Maussa is a good option, fight him in Manchester in front of a massive crowd, smash away Maussa early and take a (sort of) distinguished belt in the WBA which cannot hurt in terms of future bargaining...i think it makes sense.

states · Post by **states** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:47

It makes perfect sense. If Hatton's going to fight in Manchester in November it's hardly going to be anyone great anyway, is it? Might as well get a belt into the bargain.

If Mayweather happens, it'll be next year. Plenty of time to hype it.

dbf · Post by **dbf** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:54

but what about mayweather? He may want to take Maussas belt too, and the bobfather has much more loot to lure him than frankie dubs. Looks like Harris will get the rematch though.

Isnt Mbaye the WBA no.1 and fighting on a sports network card this/next month? And isnt the WBA due a mandatory? Hatton fights a lovemore N'dou styke fighter in november with Maussa Mbaye on the undercard, Mbaye wins and they set up a unification in the spring, Floyd meanwhile gets a big fight with cotto(ok Im dreaming now).

I hope floyd and ricky dont turn into a 05' version of Roy and Darius, the speedy american stays in the states and the strong, endurance king stays in europe. Food for thought.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 28 Jun 2005, 04:56

I have not seen M'baye but i hear he is a decent boxer, he extended Harris the full route i remember.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 28 Jun 2005, 05:17

Promoter allegedly allegedly said today that a unification fight between IBF 140lb champ Ricky Hatton and WBA champ Carlos Maussa is "an option." Warren acknowledged a rematch clause between Maussa and dethroned champ Vivian Harris, but asked "Who is going to want to watch that rubbish again and which TV company is going to pay for it?"

He's right, the key word here is "rubbish". And fight with this guy would be rubbish. Hatton would be about a 100-1 favorite.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jun 2005, 05:51

I wouldn't be too dissapointed, Maussa is awful but is a world champion according to a prestigious governing body - something he can always tell his kids.

Why not partially unify the titles, nobody would have complained if Harris was next (before Saturday) so why not the guy who beat him.

I would rather if someone like Magee got Maussa first then we could have an all British unification bout, and a better fight.

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:25

A little Harsh on Franky I think.
He would not be representing his client's best interests without at least considering the fight "an option".

A genuine title for low risk? I for one would forgive Hatton for fighting this soft opponent.

A real belt accross each shoulder...why not.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:27

Go on then, I've come round to Hatton v Maussa. It would certainly be entertaining while it lasted. But one thing though - what if Maussa is a bit more dangerous with those fists than we thought and Ricky cuts up?

And the new WBA and IBF champion Carlos Maussa!!! Nooooooo!

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:37

He wouldn't even get the chance to cut Ricky up. With that low defense and those wide arm punches of his Ricky would easily get inside and pound him into oblivion. I predict Ricky KO2 after Maussa hits the canvas about 3 times from body work.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jun 2005, 06:45

Cannibal wrote:He wouldn't even get the chance to cut Ricky up. With that low defense and those wide arm punches of his Ricky would easily get inside and pound him into oblivion. I predict Ricky KO2 after Maussa hits the canvas about 3 times from body work.

Solid prediction.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:07

The first defence was always going to be in Manchester.
This joker is perfect for that defence.
Come on, guys, give Ricky a break.
He deserves this fight, an easy night's work, and another title.
Maybe the game plan was Harris, but this has just fallen sweetly into Frank's hands.
By the way, on that subject, is Hatton now a free agent Promotionally ??

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:11

I dont agree Hatton deserves a walkover. Yes the Tszyu fight was tough but in all honesty that his first tough fight in a long long time if ever.

I'd like to see them strike while the iron is hot and go for Mayweather or Cotto or a big name from 135. And if he has to travel to the US then so be it.

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:23

That's not how it works mate.
Mayweather and Hatton need to sweep up the titles between them, then you've a mega unification fight on your hands.
It's not just about the pugilists, it's about the money makers.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Jun 2005, 07:52

Kieran wrote:That's not how it works mate.
Mayweather and Hatton need to sweep up the titles between them, then you've a mega unification fight on your hands.
It's not just about the pugilists, it's about the money makers.

Bollocks, how many undisputed champions are there? I know very well how it works thanks.

Hatton v Mayweather is a mega unfication NOW as much as next year.

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