Mercer- Moorison

ShoeShine · Post by **ShoeShine** » 20 Jun 2005, 11:31

I just watched this DVD of devastating KO'S and one of the KO's on it was Mercers on Moorison, I counted 6 unblocked unanswered blows that Morrison took. Anyone know who that ref was, he clearly stopped that fight waaaay to late.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 20 Jun 2005, 11:39

Tony Perez
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KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Jun 2005, 12:39

ShoeShine wrote:I just watched this DVD of devastating KO'S and one of the KO's on it was Mercers on Moorison,

Did they show the bit when after the fight had stopped and Tommy was sat on his stool recovering and started shadowboxing because he thought the fight was still happening?

Poor Tommy was really out of it that night. But for the first three rounds he looked awsome.

barry · Post by **barry** » 20 Jun 2005, 12:40

I actually heard at one time someone try to argue that Morrison was down, but not knocked out! One thing was certain, Morrison was always exciting!

ShoeShine · Post by **ShoeShine** » 20 Jun 2005, 13:42

KOJOE90 wrote:
ShoeShine wrote:I just watched this DVD of devastating KO'S and one of the KO's on it was Mercers on Moorison,
Did they show the bit when after the fight had stopped and Tommy was sat on his stool recovering and started shadowboxing because he thought the fight was still happening?

Poor Tommy was really out of it that night. But for the first three rounds he looked awsome.

They just showed the KO...it was wicked. Another one they showed was Jaclson over Norris...wow!! Zu over Judah was finny as hell also

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 20 Jun 2005, 14:20

Tommy always had the capacity to be KO'ed with one solid blow, which makes his victory over George Foreman all the more remarkable. Aside from the Mercer horror when he took a few too many he also lost another shocker to Michael Bentt - Bentt just caught him him on the whiskers once while Tommy was whaling away and he was effectively "gone".

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Jun 2005, 14:28

Hesketh wrote:Tommy always had the capacity to be KO'ed with one solid blow, which makes his victory over George Foreman all the more remarkable. Aside from the Mercer horror when he took a few too many he also lost another shocker to Michael Bentt - Bentt just caught him him on the whiskers once while Tommy was whaling away and he was effectively "gone".

I heard a rumour that Morrison was actually drunk during that fight.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 21 Jun 2005, 16:04

ShoeShine wrote:I just watched this DVD of devastating KO'S and one of the KO's on it was Mercers on Moorison, I counted 6 unblocked unanswered blows that Morrison took. Anyone know who that ref was, he clearly stopped that fight waaaay to late.

Actually it was Tony Perez who was a little late in stopping Tua v Ruiz in 1996 also. I hesitate to criticize but Ruiz did take one too many from the Tuaman, after he was "gone" and falling.

tiredoldngrey · Post by **tiredoldngrey** » 21 Jun 2005, 22:13

Tommy Morrison had a major problem for a fighter; he was ungodly tense when he fought which will wear you out pronto. Also, he was inflicted with what is so common tday; throwing fast flurries of arm punches anywhere-usually to the body- whether there is an opening or not (see DLH v. Sturm)but at least tommy usually finished with something hartd. He alsoneglected boxing training for weighttraining giving the illusion of condition

mozzainoz · Post by **mozzainoz** » 25 Jun 2005, 04:27

This guy was a solid puncher but was knackered after 3 rounds,A marketing dream but never a serious contender as his conditioning was so poor,he needed to change trainers,someone like Emanual Steward or Lou Duva may have got a lot more out of Tommy.Such a shame he contracted HIV as he would have been around for a long time and would probably have won another version of HW championship especially in hindsight.A Wasted talent in my opinion.

DIVISION · Post by **DIVISION** » 26 Jun 2005, 07:50

tiredoldngrey wrote:Tommy Morrison had a major problem for a fighter; he was ungodly tense when he fought which will wear you out pronto. Also, he was inflicted with what is so common tday; throwing fast flurries of arm punches anywhere-usually to the body- whether there is an opening or not (see DLH v. Sturm)but at least tommy usually finished with something hartd. He alsoneglected boxing training for weighttraining giving the illusion of condition

I don't understand the logic of relying strictly on weighttraining for a fight instead of mix of that and endurance training?

Did he think he'd just have to rely on KO power and that's it?

What were him and his trainer thinking?

DIV

tiredoldngrey · Post by **tiredoldngrey** » 26 Jun 2005, 13:57

The 'logic' of it is/was this; don't waste valuaable time in all that boring roadwork, etc..and do fun stuff like hatever lse he did. Every other day or so pop in and do a few reps with heavy weight-as I understand it, knowing zip abt weightlifting- and you look like you are in shape. Tyson did this as well I believe; you'd har all the rumors of him missing training andon fight night he'd look incredible. And when 90% of the time your opponent is jut there, it flies.

Hesketh Vampire · Post by **Hesketh Vampire** » 26 Jun 2005, 14:34

I wonder who some of the worst heavyweights there have been for training? It's public knowledge Tyson was a shocker in recent times.

tiredoldngrey · Post by **tiredoldngrey** » 26 Jun 2005, 17:17

When he arrived in Phoenix to train for Williams, he was supposed to be in the gym in Dec; it was @ 4mos lter that he finally made it in. While you could read in the boxing mags and elsewhere about his training and redoubled efforts the local papers were logging which strip club he'd been in and how late he stayed.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 27 Jun 2005, 01:14

..max baer was easily the most successful fighter to have gotten as far as he did with such a refusal to train. he clowned his way through what sparring session he actually did and cut down as little as possible on his night life.....and drove manager ancil hoffman nuts in training camp by being so lackadaisacal and undisciplined. really amazing that he had so much talent that he could be so good when the mood was on him.

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 27 Jun 2005, 09:38

They just showed the KO...it was wicked. Another one they showed was Jaclson over Norris...wow!! Zu over Judah was finny as hell also

I am not quite sure how to take this. I will agree the KO as being wicked, in terms of being really bad, especially on the behalf of the referee. I suppose you cannot blame Mercer seeing as he was just doing his job, but I am sure many fighters would have showed mercy and stopped punching in similar circumstances. That was the kind of thing that gets fighters killed, and the last thing boxing (or boxers in particular) need.

The ref should have stopped it maybe 6 or 8 shots earlier, and deserves every criticism he gets. Does anyone think the unwarranted beating he received was largely to blame for the downturn in Morrison's career.

6 Pack · Post by **6 Pack** » 28 Jun 2005, 12:47

ShoeShine wrote:I just watched this DVD of devastating KO'S and one of the KO's on it was Mercers on Moorison, I counted 6 unblocked unanswered blows that Morrison took. Anyone know who that ref was, he clearly stopped that fight waaaay to late.

Every one in the first three rows of that fight should get tested for HIV.

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