Were you in the corner this night, Frankie?kikibalt wrote:Baltazar Returns, Defeats Solorio on a Knockout
April 26, 1991|STEVE KRESAL-latimes
Frank Baltazar, fighting for the first time in more than two years, scored an eighth-round knockout of Mario Solorio in the junior welterweight main event in front of about 800 Thursday at the Irvine Marriott.
Baltazar (40-3-1), who last fought in March of 1989, looked slow at the outset. He had stopped fighting to take a job with an insurance company, but, once he was done training for the job, began to train to box again.
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Yes I was. Frankie never in his boxing career, (am/pro), fought without me in his corner...Btw, that fight is on Youtube...bennie wrote:Were you in the corner this night, Frankie?kikibalt wrote:Baltazar Returns, Defeats Solorio on a Knockout
April 26, 1991|STEVE KRESAL-latimes
Frank Baltazar, fighting for the first time in more than two years, scored an eighth-round knockout of Mario Solorio in the junior welterweight main event in front of about 800 Thursday at the Irvine Marriott.
Baltazar (40-3-1), who last fought in March of 1989, looked slow at the outset. He had stopped fighting to take a job with an insurance company, but, once he was done training for the job, began to train to box again.
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Frank/Rick, More Aragon/Carter post fight.
"Say. how much did it do?" Art asked. Nobody seemed to know. "Whatever it was, it wasn't enough," he added. "I'm dead.
Willie Ketchum, mgr, of Carter, was the next caller. "Swell fight, Kid!" he addressed Aragon, meanwhile clasping both hands overhead in a fighter-fashion crowd handshake. Turning to Roche, he continued;
"Your guy has got lots of guts. He sure showed me a lot tonight. "I already knew that." answered Roche. "I may not be the bravest manager in the world but i've got the bravest fighter in the world.".....
"Say. how much did it do?" Art asked. Nobody seemed to know. "Whatever it was, it wasn't enough," he added. "I'm dead.
Willie Ketchum, mgr, of Carter, was the next caller. "Swell fight, Kid!" he addressed Aragon, meanwhile clasping both hands overhead in a fighter-fashion crowd handshake. Turning to Roche, he continued;
"Your guy has got lots of guts. He sure showed me a lot tonight. "I already knew that." answered Roche. "I may not be the bravest manager in the world but i've got the bravest fighter in the world.".....
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kikibalt wrote:latimes story on Ray "Windmill" white
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-cro ... 225.column
Memories of the Windmill . . .
I look forward to saying hello to Ray White at this years CBHOF lunch.
I fought on the undercard of several of White's bouts and always liked the "Windmill".
He was truly funny, but not everybody enjoyed his antics, such as the Quarry brothers.
In a ten round fight with Mike Quarry, Mike complained to the ref that White had bit him on the shoulder.
At the Main Street Gym, Ray hit Jerry Quarry in the face with his behind the back punch during a sparring session and smiled at the heavyweight contender.
Jerry pushed Windmill into a corner and broke his ribs with a left hook. "Now laugh, asshole!" Jerry raged.
We had a lot of fun with Windmill White. He was a classic!
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Long Beach Auditorium, California, United States
November 11, 1971
Armando Muniz W Clyde Gray KO 9 12
Arturo Zuniga W Eltefat Talebi PTS 10 10
Ray White W Hill Chambers PTS 10 10
Rick Farris W Joaquin Murrieta PTS 4 4
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Art Aragon vs Enrique Bolanos

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I took the day off from work today and Jeri and I went to the Orange Circle in the city of Orange. It's filled with antique stores. I found an old copy of a Hollywood Legion Stadium program from, February 18, 1944. In good shape too. I grabbed a good piece of "West Coast Boxing" history. Actually, Jeri found it. She went though some magazines that I had already went through and asked me "What about this one, you do't want it?" I couldn't believe I missed it! it pays to bring her with me.
I'll scan it later and post it.
The fights listed are:
Ike Kibble vs Otto Beutler -170 lbs - 4 rounds
Henry Zamora vs Frankie Flores - 128 lbs - 4 rounds
Rene De Leon vs Freddie Long - 145 lbs - 4 rounds
Bert White vs Jimmy Reynolds - 136 lbs - 4 rounds
Matt Oglesby vs Sol Torres - 140 lbs - 6 rounds
Elmer Ray vs Mike Alfano - Heavyweights - 10 rounds
I'll scan it later and post it.
The fights listed are:
Ike Kibble vs Otto Beutler -170 lbs - 4 rounds
Henry Zamora vs Frankie Flores - 128 lbs - 4 rounds
Rene De Leon vs Freddie Long - 145 lbs - 4 rounds
Bert White vs Jimmy Reynolds - 136 lbs - 4 rounds
Matt Oglesby vs Sol Torres - 140 lbs - 6 rounds
Elmer Ray vs Mike Alfano - Heavyweights - 10 rounds
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I've never see Windmill fight but I've heard he was a real character. Hope to meet him.Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:latimes story on Ray "Windmill" white
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-cro ... 225.column
Memories of the Windmill . . .
I look forward to saying hello to Ray White at this years CBHOF lunch.
I fought on the undercard of several of White's bouts and always liked the "Windmill".
He was truly funny, but not everybody enjoyed his antics, such as the Quarry brothers.
In a ten round fight with Mike Quarry, Mike complained to the ref that White had bit him on the shoulder.
At the Main Street Gym, Ray hit Jerry Quarry in the face with his behind the back punch during a sparring session and smiled at the heavyweight contender.
Jerry pushed Windmill into a corner and broke his ribs with a left hook. "Now laugh, asshole!" Jerry raged.
We had a lot of fun with Windmill White. He was a classic!
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Long Beach Auditorium, California, United States
November 11, 1971
Armando Muniz W Clyde Gray KO 9 12
Arturo Zuniga W Eltefat Talebi PTS 10 10
Ray White W Hill Chambers PTS 10 10
Rick Farris W Joaquin Murrieta PTS 4 4
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Frankie FloresRandyman wrote:I took the day off from work today and Jeri and I went to the Orange Circle in the city of Orange. It's filled with antique stores. I found an old copy of a Hollywood Legion Stadium program from, February 18, 1944. In good shape too. I grabbed a good piece of "West Coast Boxing" history. Actually, Jeri found it. She went though some magazines that I had already went through and asked me "What about this one, you do't want it?" I couldn't believe I missed it! it pays to bring her with me.
I'll scan it later and post it.
The fights listed are:
Ike Kibble vs Otto Beutler -170 lbs - 4 rounds
Henry Zamora vs Frankie Flores - 128 lbs - 4 rounds
Rene De Leon vs Freddie Long - 145 lbs - 4 rounds
Bert White vs Jimmy Reynolds - 136 lbs - 4 rounds
Matt Oglesby vs Sol Torres - 140 lbs - 6 rounds
Elmer Ray vs Mike Alfano - Heavyweights - 10 rounds
May 23,1944
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States
Turkey Thompson W Perk Daniels SD 10 10
Art Aragon W Frenchy Rene PTS 4 4
Art Aragon first pro fight
Leonard Nix W Buddy McDaniels PTS 4 4
Lou Bernal W Frankie Flores PTS 4 4
Freddie Long L Bobby Jackson TKO 1 4
Angel Lopez L Bert White PTS 4 4
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Frankie Flores . . .
There was another Frankie Flores who had a few pro fights twenty years later, in the late 60's.
This one fought at the Olympic, twice against my stablemate, Ronnie Cisneros.
There was another Frankie Flores who had a few pro fights twenty years later, in the late 60's.
This one fought at the Olympic, twice against my stablemate, Ronnie Cisneros.
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I remember a Francisco Flores that fought under Johnnie Flores. My son Frankie fought and beat Francisco in his last Jr. fight, that was in the finals of the 1973 Jr GGs. Francisco turned pro and had a few fights, don't know how he did in those pro fights.Rick Farris wrote:Frankie Flores . . .
There was another Frankie Flores who had a few pro fights twenty years later, in the late 60's.
This one fought at the Olympic, twice against my stablemate, Ronnie Cisneros.
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I remember Francisco Flores too. He was still fighting when I was boxing but I don't know what ever happened to him.kikibalt wrote:I remember a Francisco Flores that fought under Johnnie Flores. My son Frankie fought and beat Francisco in his last Jr. fight, that was in the finals of the 1973 Jr GGs. Francisco turned pro and had a few fights, don't know how he did in those pro fights.Rick Farris wrote:Frankie Flores . . .
There was another Frankie Flores who had a few pro fights twenty years later, in the late 60's.
This one fought at the Olympic, twice against my stablemate, Ronnie Cisneros.
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I remember Johnny's fighter, that was a different Frankie Flores.kikibalt wrote:I remember a Francisco Flores that fought under Johnnie Flores. My son Frankie fought and beat Francisco in his last Jr. fight, that was in the finals of the 1973 Jr GGs. Francisco turned pro and had a few fights, don't know how he did in those pro fights.Rick Farris wrote:Frankie Flores . . .
There was another Frankie Flores who had a few pro fights twenty years later, in the late 60's.
This one fought at the Olympic, twice against my stablemate, Ronnie Cisneros.
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Today, I also picked up a Life magazine from March 19, 1971. It was the issue that covered Ali-Frazier I, with a article by Norman Mailer and some great photos of the fight taken by Frank Sinatra. Ali and Frazier are on the cover. frazier has Ali against the rope and the caption read "Frazier pounds at Ali", a great photo. I also got an old General Electric advertisement with Joe Louis in the ad. And (don't laugh) I got and old Walt Disney Mickey Mouse Club magazine from 1956 with Spin and Marty on the cover-remember them?
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These photos are from our visit to my father's grave site on the 7th, the Saturday before last. The tree in the photo was planted just days before my father was buried. It was a just a twig, I could jump over it. The shade from the tree keeps the grass from growing properly. The metal flower vase was buried so deep it took us over n hour to find it and get it out. He is buried at the Resurrection Cemetery in San Gabriel.








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Wow, that is one helluva tree, Randy, a fitting location for your dad.Randyman wrote:These photos are from our visit to my father's grave site on the 7th, the Saturday before last. The tree in the photo was planted just days before my father was buried. It was a just a twig, I could jump over it. The shade from the tree keeps the grass from growing properly. The metal flower vase was buried so deep it took us over n hour to find it and get it out. He is buried at the Resurrection Cemetery in San Gabriel.
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Frank, I did hear Art say that he started fighting in 1942, was this pro or amateur?, thanks for posting Aragon/Bolanos photo's.... 
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On the day my mom celebrated her 26th birthday, May 23, 1944, Art Aragon had his first pro fight.Cholo wrote:Frank, I did hear Art say that he started fighting in 1942, was this pro or amateur?, thanks for posting Aragon/Bolanos photo's....
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Art Aragon/Carmen Basilio, Pre-Fight.
Art lived it up with the press. What especially was he working on in camp, one writer wanted to know.
"Self-defense!" Art told him artlessly. "If you were going to fight Basilio, what would you be working on?" When he met Basilio at the weighing-in, Carmen asked him idly how things were going. "Not so good", groaned Art. "Both my wife and my girl friend are here."....

Art lived it up with the press. What especially was he working on in camp, one writer wanted to know.
"Self-defense!" Art told him artlessly. "If you were going to fight Basilio, what would you be working on?" When he met Basilio at the weighing-in, Carmen asked him idly how things were going. "Not so good", groaned Art. "Both my wife and my girl friend are here."....
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Frank, Thanks buddy....kikibalt wrote:On the day my mom celebrated her 26th birthday, May 23, 1944, Art Aragon had his first pro fight.Cholo wrote:Frank, I did hear Art say that he started fighting in 1942, was this pro or amateur?, thanks for posting Aragon/Bolanos photo's....
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Frank, I've come across a newspaper clipping from the Art Aragon/Reybon Stubbs fight Dec, 1959, one of Golden Boys last fights. It says that Art was given oxygen in his corner between rounds from the fifth on, were you at this fight Frank?....
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Art turned pro at the age of 17. He was born on Nov.13,1927Cholo wrote:Frank, Thanks buddy....kikibalt wrote:On the day my mom celebrated her 26th birthday, May 23, 1944, Art Aragon had his first pro fight.Cholo wrote:Frank, I did hear Art say that he started fighting in 1942, was this pro or amateur?, thanks for posting Aragon/Bolanos photo's....![]()
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No, I didn't see that fight. I vaguely remember reading about the oxygen.Cholo wrote:Frank, I've come across a newspaper clipping from the Art Aragon/Reybon Stubbs fight Dec, 1959, one of Golden Boys last fights. It says that Art was given oxygen in his corner between rounds from the fifth on, were you at this fight Frank?....
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Randyman wrote:Today, I also picked up a Life magazine from March 19, 1971. It was the issue that covered Ali-Frazier I, with a article by Norman Mailer and some great photos of the fight taken by Frank Sinatra. Ali and Frazier are on the cover. frazier has Ali against the rope and the caption read "Frazier pounds at Ali", a great photo. I also got an old General Electric advertisement with Joe Louis in the ad. And (don't laugh) I got and old Walt Disney Mickey Mouse Club magazine from 1956 with Spin and Marty on the cover-remember them?
Randy, I remember "Spin & Marty"!
Many years later I would be working at Disney Ranch, a movie ranch located off the 14 Fwy. near Soledad Canyon.
Another lighting tech and I were walking thru the stable area and were talking with the caretaker.
The man said he had been caretaker for the property since Walt Disney was alive and pointed to a small ranch house.
"Walt would often drive out here and spend his weekends in that house," he said.
He them pointed to the barn, "My first day on the job was working as a wrangler on the 'Spin & Marty' series. That was filmed here."
I've worked Disney Ranch many times during the past thirty-four years. "Spin & Marty", thanks for the memories, Randy.
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Francisco Flores
division featherweight
country Mexico
residence San Fernando, California, United States
won 13 (KO 7) + lost 4 (KO 1) + drawn 2 = 19
1979-04-12 Juan Villa 8-6-0
Hyatt House, Lake Tahoe, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1979-02-22 126 Frankie Duarte 124¾ 32-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L SD 12 12
referee: Dick Young 113-119 | judge: Rudy Jordan 114-116 | judge: Al Bernal 117-114
USA California State featherweight title
1978-09-19 Fel Clemente 11-7-1
Stockton, California, United States W PTS 12 12
1978-07-27 126 Peter King 128 12-6-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
1978-01-26 Manuel Castellanos 8-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1977-11-10 Johnny Jensen 15-7-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1977-08-18 127½ Eulogio Bojorquez 128 3-1-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
1977-06-09 134 Hector Julio Rivera 133
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 2
1977-04-21 Jorge Torres 36-21-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 8
1976-10-14 127 Johnny Jensen 127½ 13-5-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 7 7
1976-08-19 128½ Alvaro Espinosa 129 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 7 7
1976-07-15 Alvaro Espinosa
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 6
1976-06-19 Orlando Arguello 1-0-0
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1976-05-08 Jorge Torres 36-16-3
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1976-04-02 Gilberto Ortiz 0-4-1
Shrine Exposition Center, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5
1976-03-04 Isidro Guzman 1-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5
1976-02-19 127½ Martin Avila 126½ 1-7-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1
1976-01-15 128 Johnny Jensen 127 10-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1975-12-11 Santiago Hernandez 4-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 5 5
division featherweight
country Mexico
residence San Fernando, California, United States
won 13 (KO 7) + lost 4 (KO 1) + drawn 2 = 19
1979-04-12 Juan Villa 8-6-0
Hyatt House, Lake Tahoe, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1979-02-22 126 Frankie Duarte 124¾ 32-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L SD 12 12
referee: Dick Young 113-119 | judge: Rudy Jordan 114-116 | judge: Al Bernal 117-114
USA California State featherweight title
1978-09-19 Fel Clemente 11-7-1
Stockton, California, United States W PTS 12 12
1978-07-27 126 Peter King 128 12-6-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
1978-01-26 Manuel Castellanos 8-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1977-11-10 Johnny Jensen 15-7-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1977-08-18 127½ Eulogio Bojorquez 128 3-1-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
1977-06-09 134 Hector Julio Rivera 133
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 2
1977-04-21 Jorge Torres 36-21-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 8
1976-10-14 127 Johnny Jensen 127½ 13-5-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 7 7
1976-08-19 128½ Alvaro Espinosa 129 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 7 7
1976-07-15 Alvaro Espinosa
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 6
1976-06-19 Orlando Arguello 1-0-0
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1976-05-08 Jorge Torres 36-16-3
Forum, Inglewood, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1976-04-02 Gilberto Ortiz 0-4-1
Shrine Exposition Center, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5
1976-03-04 Isidro Guzman 1-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5
1976-02-19 127½ Martin Avila 126½ 1-7-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1
1976-01-15 128 Johnny Jensen 127 10-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1975-12-11 Santiago Hernandez 4-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 5 5
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Frankie Flores
division super featherweight
country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 5 (KO 3) + lost 2 (KO 1) + drawn 1 = 8
Ron Ceniceroz 133 11-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4
1969-06-12 125 Fino Pimentel 123½
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1969-05-29 124 Martin Alvarez 127 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1969-04-17 126 Jose Luis 126 2-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5 5
1968-09-26 126 Wilson Yambo 125 9-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 6 6
referee: Larry Rozadilla
Flores was stopped on cuts.
1968-09-05 127½ Ron Ceniceroz 127½ 3-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 4
1968-09-03 Peter King 0-0-1
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1968-04-25 128 Jerry Williams 129
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
division super featherweight
country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 5 (KO 3) + lost 2 (KO 1) + drawn 1 = 8
Ron Ceniceroz 133 11-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4
1969-06-12 125 Fino Pimentel 123½
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1969-05-29 124 Martin Alvarez 127 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1969-04-17 126 Jose Luis 126 2-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5 5
1968-09-26 126 Wilson Yambo 125 9-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 6 6
referee: Larry Rozadilla
Flores was stopped on cuts.
1968-09-05 127½ Ron Ceniceroz 127½ 3-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 4
1968-09-03 Peter King 0-0-1
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1968-04-25 128 Jerry Williams 129
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
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